LENI ROBREDO IS THE SAME LENI ROBREDO
By Wilfredo G. Villanueva
Submitted Sep. 14, 2023
Question: You voted for former Vice President Leni Robredo May last year and you don’t like what’s happening. You feel you were robbed. Leni is the true winner, you think. But there is no groundswell of protest against electoral fraud in spite of overwhelming evidence of rigged elections. You’re in the 18 to 40 age group, comprising about 45 per cent of the voting population. You are happy to stay in native land–a tropical splendor–have no Plan B in terms of country, but you simply cannot stomach rogues who have taken over the country. You continue to be prayerful, asking for divine intervention, pleading for leadership in these dark times. In the meantime, what can you do that is within your control, where you yourself can exert leadership or followership?
Answer: Join Angat Buhay. This org is an oasis of hope, compassion, action beyond the call of duty. How did I come upon this answer which is hiding in plain sight all along? How did I come up with this answer when people are moving in separate directions, busy recovering from pandemic doldrums, knowing about electoral fraud yet unwilling to do anything about it?
I was honored to have an interview with Pambansang Taga-Angat ng Buhay herself, Leni Robredo, last August 29th. She doesn’t look like a loser at all. How can it be, I asked myself, that the TOWGA or The One Who Got Away, is even blooming, suffused with the same spirit as in the campaign months of October 2021 to May 2022, effervescence defined? It goes to show that she really won, but that’s just me.
There are many signs she was the better candidate, by rally size and fervor reminiscent of the 1986 yellow-ribbon campaign of Cory, Cory, Cory. Thought leaders naturally gravitated towards her like the moon to earth.
Is she enjoying the freedom from a political position?
“Mas nagagawa ko na ang mga gusto kong gawin,” she said, “kasi hindi na ako constrained by public office. Akala namin mahihirapan ang Angat Buhay once I’m out of public office. Ang nangyari, baliktad.”
Aren’t you missing the adrenaline rush?
Atty. Leni in her elements in Traslacion for Ina in Naga city.
“Even as far as Angat Buhay is concerned, partnerships with different organisations and companies in Angat Buhay mas nag-expand. Mas kampante siguro sila (donors) na wala nang shackles government office brings. Dati kami-kami lang sa OVP (Office of the Vice President) ang implementation, now we are an NGO with a huge army of volunteers from the campaign. We are trying to transform into a civil society organization which can partner with Angat Buhay on the ground. Yung adrenaline rush nanggagaling duon. Yung iba accredited na with SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission). Yung iba, mas loose organizations, kaya kailangang i-handhold. Kailangan naming bigyan ng capacity-building exercises. Iba ang adrenaline rush nuon, iba din ngayon.”
Angat Buhay was her flagship project while in OVP, and it will remain so now that she is a free agent. No more press statements and briefings, she said, and her freedom from these responsibilities is as astonishing as it is organizationally beneficial for all concerned.
What are the top three things you are proud to have done?
Marrying her husband Jesse is on top of her list. The late Jesse Robredo, who lost his life trying to catch their daughter’s swimming competition, riding in a small plane that crashed at sea off Masbate after fulfilling his duties as Secretary of local governments, remains in her center. “What would Jesse have done?” she would ask herself about certain issues. Jesse it was who ushered her into the world of politics.
In recognition of his achievements as Mayor of Naga (Camarines Sur), Jesse was awarded the Ramon Magsaysay Award for Government Service in 2000, the first mayor ever to be awarded. He was appointed to the cabinet of former President Noynoy Aquino in 2010.
“Jesse is the better politician,” she reflected, acknowledging her lack of acumen in that area. “Hindi ako politician at heart, Jesse had that, wala ako nun. I just follow my heart. My core is work with the development sector.”
Next matter of pride: her daughters. “I am proud to have been very much involved in rearing our children,” she said. Consider this: the eldest Aika graduated with honors in Ateneo de Manila University, majoring in management engineering, after, a master’s degree from Harvard University. Second-born Dr. Tricia Robredo has a dual degree in doctor of medicine and master of business administration from the Ateneo School of Medicine and Public Health. Bunso Jillian Robredo graduated from New York University with a double degree in mathematics and economics under a full scholarship. High-achieving daughters and high-achieving parents. She takes pride in her organization. Everything is labeled in the Robredo home, identified in Excel file for easy retrieval. Systems get you daughters like the three.
And the third point of heraldry in her life: “I was able to resist the lure of uhm… makisama sa political tide,” her words. There were instances in her work as vice president when she would have engaged in political tit for tat to survive, but she would have none of it.
Two women leaders: St. Teresa of Calcutta and former United Kingdom prime minister Margaret Thatcher. Which one are you nearer to in leadership style?
She admits to being nearer in service philosophy to St. Teresa of Calcutta than to iron-lady Margaret Thatcher, United Kingdom’s longest-serving continuously prime minister in the eighties to nineties. Better known as Mother Teresa, the Indian Roman Catholic nun of Albanian origin founded the Missionaries of Charity and for over 45 years cared for the destitute, the sick and the dying. Atty. Leni agrees that St. Teresa’s leadership style is about heart and compassion; Thatcher’s style is more about brain and political adroitness. “Mas pang social development ako,” she said, “closer to the ground.”
From the very start of her exposure to public life, while picking up her daughters from school driving an Innova way back in Naga, Cam. Sur, she has always loved being ensconced with the people in bright and dismal times. It’s what makes her special. There were times in OVP and the campaign when she was advised to set aside heart (Mother Teresa) in favor of battle (Thatcher) but she declined. It’s not her, to be wily and war-like. For every Filipino voter who lusted after the carrots of Tallano gold and debt without repayment, there would be maybe three to five who still believed in good values. That’s the reason for her self-confidence and resilience. She didn’t die after the elections, she just sallied forth in the same direction, same horse and same troops, leaving political realities behind naturally.
You are the de facto head of the opposition, do you agree, disagree or it comes when it comes?
“It comes when it comes,” she replied without hesitation. “Sen. Risa Hontiveros is in a better place to lead,” she added, in Leni Robredo deflection without a hint of missing days gone by.
Word Association: Electoral Fraud
I have a game in Villanueva Interviews–word association–which the interviewee will bounce back with reactive words without thinking, and I said “electoral fraud.” I thought the phrase would take her by surprise, maybe she would be sensitive to it. “Salot ng lipunan,” she said even before I completed pronouncing “fraud.” The lady is without guile, without agenda, without resentment or unforgiveness. But she knows where you have been, like a mother who will just pick up your clothes and leave you be, knowing her child is independently drunk but she got this.
Lately, there have been calls for her to voice out her feelings about Comelec’s foot dragging to answer the mandamus petition of the so-called TNTrio composed of Brig. Gen. (Ret.) Ely Rio, Gus Lagman and Franklin Ysaac, all computer geeks with about a hundred years of combined experience in digital technology. The Pambansang Taga-Angat ng Buhay is unruffled, a combination of Jesus in suffering, Ina (Mother Mary in Bicol) in care and empathy, Jesse in savvy, and St. Teresa in ground work.
Let’s help the laylayan ng lipunan; that’s scrolled on her schoolgirl, unwrinkled brow. That’s what I saw, screaming to high heavens, with Robredo cool, calculated urgency in Excel sheet.
Impressions from the Interview
One, she didn’t shrink or will not shirk from her responsibility. It’s partly our problem. We got so engrossed with the Leni v. Bongbong narrative as in basketball that we forgot she wasn’t in it for just victory at the polls. She was actually storing ammunition for Angat Buhay, her pet project, which serves the laylayan ng lipunan, loosely translated, the hemline of the pants or skirt, the never-mind element in our public-service lexicon. Some of us forgot that we were in it for the masses, and work for them continues with or without electoral victory. To Atty. Leni, it was clear from the start, hence the unchanging demeanor, the smile of a fulfilled mother in the midst of personal tragedy.
Two, she remains in our standing army fighting the recalcitrants, the practitioners of machiavellianism, the political gamesmen. “It comes when it comes,” she replied when asked if she will suit up for the next battle, if ever. She could have said I will decline, I’m up to here with it, have better things to do now, enough, I’m free, no more. No, she is in peak condition, so are her troops.
She hasn’t conceded. She considers electoral fraud as “salot ng bayan.” Put the two together and you have protons and neutrons colliding with electrons in nuclear fusion. She chooses her battles. She’s our champion, that’s not open to doubt, deliberation or despair. She’s in the thick of the fight for a better Philippines. I said thank you for the interview because she has a next engagement and I only had 30 minutes. I click leave the Zoom meeting entranced, enthralled, energized.
The Society of Honor by Joe America 
Thank you Wil.
Thanks, Will. Just leaving two articles by John Nery here as additional input.
My own comment: there are the extremes of Mother Theresa and Maggie Thatcher – and there is Angela Merkel. Risa Hontiveros fits that description better, especially recently.
Especially in the pugilistic atmosphere of Philippine politics and in the capital Manila whose ways are rougher and less friendly than Bikol or Iloilo, two major areas where Atty. Leni was strong in the last election, an opposition leader sometimes needs to get into “bardagulan”. Senator Risa was able to do so recently without losing poise – against VP Inday Sara no less. Let’s say everyone will have their respective roles in the coming months and years, abangan.
I suppose given all the heat the TNTrio stand has generated people do expect a reaction from her. She is too centered–heart and mind–to want to bother with political tussles. A true Servant-leader, I feel she derives strength from a deep spiritual conviction. It says “People before anything else.”
https://opinion.inquirer.net/165310/comelec-and-the-mysterious-ip-192-168-0-2
no reaction from leni yet, though she has said after losing election 2022 that she will not be questioning election outcome. maybe she has enough of politics.
This is what I meant:
This is the second Nery article I wanted to link:
Certainly, Angat Buhay is important, but visible “punches” towards Sara Duterte count a lot.
Question : Did the Leni team commissioned a pre-election survey to serve as guide and gauge for campaign strategy moving forward? If so, were the results reflective and will support allegations of vote rigging uncovered recently by Gen. Rio?
https://www.rappler.com/nation/elections/ferdinand-marcos-jr-keeps-lead-robredo-numbers-up-march-2022-pulse-asia-survey/
surveys leading up to election 2022. many filipinos believe surveys were rigged too! voters conditioned to believe marcos is winning, haha.
I would add this to the food for thought:
WE might believe in servant leaders, BUT a lot of Filipinos want rulers. So, an opposition leader has to exude a certain energy even if he or she is service oriented.
We just had sports articles, so that energy must be like a coach. An energy like Magsaysay or Jesse Robredo had. Something Atty. Leni admits she doesn’t have, unlike her husband did.
leni has lots of energy pre-election 2022, campaigning and visiting localities, meeting voters, leading massive rallies and was greeted by a sea of pink. she smiled often and was on top of things. she even presented at debate, unlike pbbm who was often absent at debates.
post election and leni seemed deflated. she declined an invitation to attend pbbm’s sona and yet, leni attended dinner with gloria arroyo. sayang, kuya will did not ask leni what the dinner was really about!
The dinner happened after August 29th, I think, after the interview.
daghang salamat.
I salute the mission of Leni, but there were no financial numbers associated with her angat-buhay program and how many can it actually help. If she were President, she can do much much more. More rich people and organizations will help her. More foreign government will help her. She has the natural magnet and reputation. I think she is missing the point. She was the winner as proven by TNTRIO Movement for Truth. Why is she running away from the people?
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1829591/meeting-with-robredo-a-social-dinner-gloria-arroyo
leni is not running away from people. she even has recent dinner with gloria arroyo and talking about bicol politics. while gloria is medyo gloating about meeting leni and giving statement, leni is quiet and pensive and not as exuberant as arroyo.
Running away or running towards the people? She doesn’t strike me as a denialist. She agreed to be interviewed, that in itself is embracing the cause of the people. She still wants to make an impression; she’s still a part of the solution. A strong manifestation of her stick-to-itiveness is her passion to organize. She lives in a small apartment, she said, so every item in her household is labeled and identified in Excel file. She wants to make a difference in everything she does, so all her tools and equipment are within reach in split seconds. Joan of Arc comes to mind, a deadly weapon with deadly intent. Oops, h’wag nga pala war metaphor. Hindi siya yun.
I was gonna respond to kb’s post on the prison guard news which I posted on Joe’s post now I can’t find it but saw it Friday.
Anyways I was gonna say…
surely, kb, you’re not comparing the Queen’s guards and the Swiss guards to this obvious idiocy, at least in hazing theres a purpose but these poor prison guards are just standing with backs stretched out like that and wasting a good family visit day.
Filipinos should recognize pure stupidity automatically and rectify said stupidity, like
who ordered those prison guards to said position wasting a good family visit day. have that commander answer and take responsibility. if theres a good reason then Hey that commander must be a genius cuz I cannot see any practical reason for it. The Queen’s and Swiss guards by the way actually do real work, those regiments rotate out and deploy,
the Swiss guards actually handle personal protection as well as site protection for the Pope and the Vatican. the two do the symbolic duties as add on to their real actual work.
My point theres no reason for standing like that…. AT ALL. not at their level.
Now let me tie it into Wil’s blog.
It should already be a given that Inday Sara (unless PBBM intends to side line her, which I don’t think he will) she will be the next president.
So for those who voted for VP Leni accept that Inday Sara will be the next president. What can you do?
nothing. but you can fix minor fixes like stupid idea for making prison guards stand awkwardly not interacting with their families during family visit day, make your complaints heard. fight for the Filipinos who can’t stand up for themselves , eg. like these entry level prison guards.
ROTC is coming back. there will be more stupid stuff like this I am sure of it. nip it in the bud. stop this idiocy one small act at a time. if you voted for VP Leni you should be mad at this and put a stop to it its a small enough gesture and the prison guard leader responsible I’m sure will be expendable if enough public uproar is launched.
Then on to the next one, small acts against stupidity, wherein you don’t mask it as something akin to the Queen’s guards or the Swiss guards is a start. a smart start. I promise you little acts like this will build to a culture of accountability. maybe then Filipinos will deserve a
VP Leni. maybe.
Hontiveros isn’t just fighting stupidity nowadays. She is fighting injustice:
Nothing against the assistance of Angat Buhay, it is good. But the strongest differentiator is stuff like this. Fighting one abuse at a time, showing people examples, not abstractions.
“So for those who voted for VP Leni accept that Inday Sara will be the next president. What can you do?” – LCPL_X
Accept Sara as next president? That’s a presumptuous statement to say the least. Why, what did Sara do for her to be a shoo-in for the presidency? I admit I’m not up to date with the goings on in the government but with ‘Marites’ all around I would have known if Sara did something exemplary or outstanding for her to be a sure shot to be president. I don’t have that information. In fact, the latest information I have on her was her spat with Sen. Risa Hontiveros on something about the intelligence budget.
As to what we can do, there’s a lot. One, she hasn’t accomplished much except just being a Duterte. Never believed in her then and now, never have confidence in her today. Oh yes, I want to be impressed, convinced because I don’t have a closed mind but so far nada. Two, there’s a lot of women leaders who I think are more competent than her. Women leaders whose fathers are not murderers. Just saying. Lastly, being a Duterte, I have to admit she has a clear shot on the presidency. Family monopoly, that’s how the country run, that’s how we roll.
“Lastly, being a Duterte, I have to admit she has a clear shot on the presidency. “
That’s all you had to say, Juan. Theres really no one in the way, unless PBBM throws her under the bus. But he won’t cuz after Inday Sara’s reign it’ll be PBBM’s son. They have an understanding and Filipinos don’t mind said understanding.
ps
I found Joe’s lost blog, but why is it all the way down in the line up?
Thank you, Kuya Will.
It is admirable that Leni Robredo remains in public service without the trappings of a political position and/or a government budget. She is the quintessential servant leader who does it not because she has to but because she wants to.
I am troubled about MLQ3’s observation and Irineo’s keen analysis that a lot of Filipinos do not appreciate servant leaders. Why does doing the right thing turn off a number of Filipinos? Is this a mental health issue or something else?
“Why does doing the right thing turn off a number of Filipinos?”
My take:
1. Many Filipinos live lives of quiet desperation so their expression of rebellion is to side with the evildoers since either option doesnt change their lives anyway (not much different from Trump supporters in the US)
(Pathetic, but as Christian Esguerra would ask: pinagnakawan ka na, ibinoto mo pa, so ano tawag sa iyo?}
2. Remarkable lack of ability to learn and remember or handle abstract matters (reference our obsession with spending so much for basketball with very little results to show for it)
Re 2. sometimes it is because the abstract flows out of the concrete and there is often a major disconnect between Philippine reality and theory.
“Christian country”. Yeah, as Fr. Jaime Bulatao SJ of Ateneo noted it is often split-level Christianity. Well, Rizal might say Padres Damaso, Salvi and Camorra were not paragons of virtue either. Maybe that created a culture were Pacquiao allegedly said his infidelity was not an issue as Da Baybol says one should not covet thy neighbors wife at di naman niya inano ang asawa ng kapitbahay at wala namang asawa mga kabit niya so common sense it wasn’t bad.
“Just and humane society” is what the Constitution says. Ha ha ha.
“Rule of law”. Sure there are also miscarriages of justice in other better organized countries. But come on what does rule of law mean in practice to most Filipinos especially poorer ones?
LCPL_X speaks of small acts against stupidity. That is where the opposition has to prove to the
less privileged Filipinos that the lofty ideas they speak of are not mere window-dressing.
“Christian country”
What makes the Philippines a “Christian country,” if indeed it is really Christian?
As if it can be determined clearly, when was the Philippines most Christian?
How about America, when was it most Christian?
Was Jose Rizal a Christian?
Is Leni Robredo Christian?
Anong masasabi mo dito i7sharp?
So which one ‘s the Good Thief?
🤣😂🤣 Well, Christians have been an ununified bunch since Peter denied Jesus, just ask Luther, so there are no correct answers to unanswerable questions. But for sure, some Christians have a sense of humor. And some don’t.
Irineo, sorry, I was able to reply only now.
Let me first share this (dated 2017):
https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/2017/05/deception-shocking-truth-behind-leni.html
The author seems to be unnamed.
I do not know about his/her track record, do you?
I wonder why my post says “i7 says” … I probably did not log in correctly?
I’ve never heard of “necropolitics” before, what a fun read. thanks i7sharp!
It all hinges on the weight of that bag though. Otherwise a great tale.
If only because he is the author of this blog article about Leni, shouldn’t Wilfredo Villanueva (aside from “Lance”) also at least say something (or try to shed some light) on this?:
https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/2017/05/deception-shocking-truth-behind-leni.html
Salamat.
The article is weird, for me. Like the statement “But the President did not seem to share Roxas’ enthusiasm. Not only did he dislike Jesse Robredo, he distrusted him as well.” How does the author know this? It is being posed as fact and readers who share the author’s dislike of yellows will accept it as fact. Do you accept it as fact, i7sharp? By posting the article here and demanding that Will respond, it seems that you do.
I am amazed at the deterioration of simple decency among humans and attribute a lot of it to the lack of critical thinking and spreading of distortion and cruelty in our mainstream information flows. Totally un-Christian to me.
“Do you accept it as fact, i7sharp? By posting the article here and demanding that Will respond, it seems that you do.”
No, Joe, I definitely do not consider it a fact.
I was hoping you and other participants here can try to shed light on it.
By the way, “demanding”???
Well, demanding, inquiring. Wanting Will to respond to elaborate article that to me represents the worst of our times, undocumented statements aiming to demonize good people. If he responds, he legitimizes the article, so I hope he does not respond. And, as I’ve expressed here before, I wish you were more rigorous in questioning what these kinds of articles do to our search for decency and ways to do good works. Christianity to me is not found in the brand of Bible one chooses, but how one internalizes the wisdom found there to walk the high ground as compassionate humans. There is so much dirt in our thought streams. We can filter it or spread it. That article is very very dirty.
our country is philippines not philippine, it should be philippinesfails.
I’m with you, joeam. I’m presuming the author is AI, haha.
Sometime AI is drunk, I suspect. Digital beer.
Joe, the “very very dirty” article (as you call it) is filled with a lot of details.
Perhaps, you can choose, for a start, the most egregious falsehood/s that you have found?
No, if you cannot yourself detect the nastiness of the author’s take, you may simply live with it as a building block of your knowledge and make your judgments accordingly. I remember blocking that whacko here for his hateful diatribes, and I shall not lower myself to read in his or your cess pit.
If I recall correctly, about a year ago I came upon this blog site,
https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/
after googling for more info about “The God Culture”
https://philippinefails.blogspot.com/search/label/god%20culture
I do not know the name or background or track record of the owner/writer.
This, below, can be gathered through his site:
(I share this, fwiw.)
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This, my dear readers, is an exposition – an attempt to present an alternate history, to tell you the version which is not known. Each coin has two sides and it would not be fair for you to see only one side and have that version peddled to you as gospel truth. I do not expect you to believe me outright. I speak mostly from recollection and from my own personal understanding of past events. But I challenge you to fact check every single thing that I say. No matter how hostile and partial I may appear, I promise to be fair to Jesse as much as I could. I will not dispute his accomplishments or deny the good things he has done to specific people. This work is simply meant to balance what you know about him and would be more of an attempt to demystify him, thereby exposing his human frailties. He is, after all, human – like the rest of us. I promise to offer nothing but the truth, so help me God. That is why I have attached my sources (online links to published news articles) so you can validate. I’m also issuing a challenge that since not everything can be verified online (a lot of what you will hear from me happened during the pre-Internet age), you may want to go to Naga City and do your fact checking on the ground – where most of this stuff really happened. Given the bulk of the new information, this article may be of considerable length so I ask you to please bear with me. Despite my urge to cut right to the chase, I find it imperative to start from the very beginning, in order to provide context and perspective – two things that are absolutely necessary to understand the truth. I likewise issue this challenge to my fellow Nagueños, especially to those who are loyal to Jesse’s hallowed memory who may feel betrayed by this exposition – take off your blinds and learn to accept the hard truth. As American author Edward Abbey once said, “Better a cruel truth than a comfortable delusion.”
Finally, let me take this opportunity to beg your indulgence as to why I’d prefer to keep my identity anonymous. Much of the stories you will hear from me involve actual events and actual people (mostly living) – and I feel it is my patriotic obligation to name names and describe specific events in sufficient detail in order to bring out the truth. After all, how can you fact check and verify my stories if I do not disclose the identities of those involved? Now here comes the tricky part. Given that the characterizations of a lot of people in this article are not what you would consider flattering, and in several occasions directly portray them as crooks and criminals engaged in illicit and nefarious activities, unduly exposing myself is a risk that is quite difficult to undertake. People die for knowing too much, more so for exposing what they know. When Jesse was still alive, I would not have been careless to share these stories with just about anyone. Far too risky considering he’s in power. Later, you will learn that there are some who literally paid the ultimate price for doing what I’m doing now. Hopefully, this article will shed some light on the disappearance of one of these people and provide justice where justice is due. As promised earlier, I will call a spade a spade and will not mince words. In the interest of telling you the stories as they really happened, restraint is something I am not inclined to adhere to.
1: BEGINNINGS
So let us start from the very beginning. Again, this might take some time so please bear with me, since it is necessary to know the back story.
Much about Jesse Robredo’s political career you can actually Google yourself. I do not want to waste your time telling you something which you may already know or repeat stories you may have online access to [i.e. Scharff]. Repetition bores me, so forgive me for skipping the usual sentimental stories. I’m just gonna fill in some details that are commonly omitted by those who have covered him – a lot of them we believe are paid writers anyway posing as investigative journalists (I’ll leave it to your imagination to figure out who I’m referring to). If they are indeed the objective investigative journalists they claim to be, they would have stumbled upon this shit a long time ago and spared me the ordeal of having to write this article. In fairness, however, much of what has been written about his lineage and early beginnings are true. Jose Perez, a local journalist who wrote for the Bicol Mail, narrates in his 2007 article [Nagueño]:
If there is one thing common between Camarines Sur Rep. Luis R. Villafuerte and Naga City Mayor Jesse M. Robredo, it is the blood of Confucius that runs in their veins.
In fact, the two came from the same great grandfather from China who upon residing in the Philippines adopted the Filipino name “Robredo,” a name that both of them have to share, whether they like it or not.
The rest of their character, traits and beliefs, political and otherwise, however, are worlds apart.
Their great grandfather Lim Pay Co, with his son Lim Teng by his first wife, arrived in Manila at the turn of the 19th century. As a young boy, Lim Teng was tutored by the Spanish friars. He and his father were later baptized by a Spanish friar surnamed Robredo.
The friar baptized Lim Pay Co and Lim Teng as Serafin and Juan, respectively, and gave them his surname. Since then, they were known as Serafin Robredo and Juan Lim Robredo.
While it was not clear what happened to Lim Teng’s mother, Serafin while settling in the country took a second wife by the name of Josefa de la Trinidad, a widow. Juan Lim Robredo (Lim Teng), meanwhile, married Luisa Chan, a local Chinese girl.
His stepmother, Josefa, bore four children, Soledad, Jose, Juan II and Serafina, who became Juan’s half-brothers and half-sisters. They were all surnamed Robredo with their original Chinese name Lim Payco sometimes attached to their Filipino name. All of them, including Juan Lim Robredo, were educated by the American school system.
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@ Joe, i7sharp, et al.
its like what I said before Filipinos should be able to recognize stupid from a mile away. the nation’s future depends on it.
a tall tale with no evidence to back it up is just that a tall tale. once you introduce corroborating evidence or physical evidence then maybe theres something, until then. treat it as a fun story.
I could probably write something similar starting with there was this dude who was good buddies with Pres. Magsaysay and upon the crash was found clutching a heavy bag.
Ooooooooooh… what was in that bag? well let me tell you a story… that’s how tall tales start usually with some mysterious object or event.
Now i’m no Stephen King nor do I know the ins and outs of Philippines politics or the politicians who act in said tragedy, but with a heavy bag plus inuendos I’m sure I can paint Magsaysay as some dirty politician deserving of your ire.
But again without evidence I’m just presenting a fun story, like how Trump was robbed of the 2020 election, nice fun story but no evidence.
Filipinos need to be more like Jerry McGuire.
I know for a fact that it was the same bag as the one the English Patient had with him when he crashed over the Sahara. The question is, what did the content of the bag have to do with Egypt and the eye of Horus? And Stargate.
Yes, indeed.
I also know for a fact that contents of said bag eventually ended up in hands of one Senator Menendez by way of Egypt.
Some stories are too interwoven or outlandish to figure out.
https://magilas.me/seinfeld-interwoven
Is the Philippines the fabled Kingdom of Ophir, I therefore ask. 😜
I don’t watch videos like that. Waste of my precious time when I could be swilling beer and smiling into the sunset. All of life is a winding story. One never gets to see the whole scope of things, just the few meters on either side of the path we’re on. From those few meters, however, we can grow rich, deepen our soul, help or hurt people, and thank God for the blessing of that path.
Irineo asked:
“Is the Philippines the fabled Kingdom of Ophir, I therefore ask. 😜”
I therefore thank Irineo.
Why?
Because he opened the opportunity for this person to quip with cheek-in-tongue that “Ophir” can be formed from the international codes that are or have been used for the Philippines:
PI – Philippine Islands
RP – Republic of the Philippines
PH – Philippinee
But there is no “O” in those codes, Irineo could therefore ask?
With cheek-in-tongue plus, this person would say, the “o” in the “Republic of the Philippines.”
btw, who is the “whacko” that Joe referred to just now?
The owner/writer of “PhilippineFails”?
If so, I would say (with tongue definitely not in cheek) that “PhilippineFails” contain the most detailed or impressive responses to The God Culture’s claims about the Philippines being Ophir that I have, so far, seen.
Off-topic (but probably on-spot on the subject of play on words):
Would Gary Lising be the Larry David (“Curb Your Enthusiasm”) of the Philippines?
I’m reminded of the fable about a million monkeys on typewriters clacking away and eventually typing Shakespeare. One monkey clacking away at nonsense might also haphazardly type the King James Bible, if you rearrange the letters properly, but the better choice is simply to live life honestly and compassionately. Then you can come to understand both the Bible and nonsense for what they are.
It’s nice to know that Leni Robredo is busy doing something else aside from politics. What I gathered from the interview above was that she is now enjoying what she’s doing free from bureaucratic constraints, etc.
However, when asked about the status of her being the opposition leader her response showed disinterest if not outright detachment. I mean, there was no indication that she’s still in the game. And mentioning that ‘Risa Hontiveros was in a better place to lead’ sounds to me like she’s designating her to take her place to lead the opposition. The ‘It comes when it comes’ expression also implies to me that she is now allowing the ‘bahala na’ attitude to dictate the course of her political future.
Maybe it’s just her way of saying it’s too early to engage in political scrimmage, hence, the shrug off reaction.
After learning that I formed an opinion about her in relation to the title of the writeup, which was actually unclear to me as to the point of ‘being the same’; The same civilian or the same politician? Nevertheless, I think, gauging from the pivot she made after election, she’s more of a civilian than a politician kind of person. Politics is a job for her and when she’s not politicking she’s back to her real self as Leni Robredo, the ordinary citizen, a noncombatant civilian.
There was no pivot. She simply sped off toward the prize which is to secure the laylayan ng lipunan. That she didn’t even get off her horse to survey the damage caused by electoral fraud–salot ng lipunan–is testament to her one-track mind, go for the jugular, she said, save the laylayan. My wife asked, “How come I don’t feel love for the laylayan?” “It’s because you’re not a part of the laylayan,” I replied. She ain’t done yet, is what I gathered from the interview.
“That she didn’t even get off her horse to survey the damage caused by electoral fraud–salot ng lipunan–is testament to her one-track mind, go for the jugular, she said, save the laylayan.”
Does that an admission that she cannot multi-tasks? I mean no offense but your view of her tends to lean on the negative side. She just ran for the presidency, a position which requires attention on numerous important matters dealing with the affairs of the country. And you’re telling us that she has a one-track mind? That’s a revelation.
maybe kuya wil meant leni is now solely focused on her pet project after leading her party and losing presidential election 2022, her party also lost election 2019. she lost twice.
post election 2022, leni has many speaking engagements here and abroad, her pet project is doing well and has helped many filipinos.
I think a large segment of the population suffer from a kind of slave/servant mentality, constantly looking for “amo” or savior or messiah to fix everything and think for them as well. They’d rather settle for the crumbs as canine followers and pick their tribal leader.
Personally, I have validated this when I wear good clothes and project a sense of authority when I deal with agencies or banks. Govt offices in particular are very sensitive to these signals of authority and I get much better service when I opportunistically use it to get things done.
Which means many Filipinos dont have any aspirations to be better or be more autonomous. Pathetic, really.
Apologies for my pessimism, but I guess that’s why you have saints like Cory, Leni, Jesse who can show us how “radikal na pagmamahal” can work despite the odds.
The Filipino is worth dying for? Only some of them. Others who are too foolish will suffer climate change, corruption, terrible traffic, loss of resources in the WPS, inflation, rice shortage/dependency (!), injustices more intensely.
Your pessimism is consistent with that of a lot of Filipinos and foreigners who have given up and checked out for foreign lands. I think there has been a brain drain and a drain of yellows fleeing. For the remaining who are extraordinarily loyal (beyond reason) or trapped, I’d say that Leni Robredo would make a beautiful female Pope, but you better hitch your future to a fighter, and Senator Hontiveros is the best fit right now. Otherwise, go tactical like LCX says. It’s rather like the Ukrainian counteroffensive. A slow deadly grind, but there is no better alternative right now. Gorbachev is dead and so is Aquino.
I wish putin follow gorby’s example, and drop dead.
Yes, it certainly would be a convenience.
Copy paste from the Bard article.
Karl Garcia on September 14, 2023 at 3:50 am
Before when Irineo is implying that the Philippines is hopeless, I get kind off defensive and this was still during the time of Pnoy. Duterte has passed and now I think that he is correct afterall.
If we are learning at all, we are not showing it.
What goodd wil this zoom meetings about Smartmatic driven massive election cheating, if right from the start Leni does not want to be a part of it. I know Col. Odono and he is not at all for Leni. So what are they fighting for?
We lacck good leadership both in the admin and the opposition. A good leader can make people stick together.
“We lacck good leadership both in the admin and the opposition. A good leader can make people stick together.” – Karl Garcia
If ‘good’ leadership means capable, competent and qualified I think we have good leadership on both sides of the aisle. I’m not sure though if these good leaders are also good people. There’s a difference there if you know what I mean.
Right off the bat I can say Robin Padilla will have a hard time, if not disqualified, on the good leadership category. Same with Bato Dela Rosa.
For me, good leadership is the least of our problem when it comes to people who we like to chart the course of the country. What we must be conscious of are those people who pretends they are good but actually a curse or bad omen for the country.
Good leaders are not necessarily good persons. Agreed.
Having both is a huge bonus.
I dont know what to make of this, karlG. the uber smart (not!) at the senate are thinking of sending civilians in next time’s resupply mission to ayungin shoal where our rusting ship, the siera madre, is grounded . putting civilians in harm’s way vs chinese militia fleet. I can think of robin padilla, bato, and bong go coming along. hopefully they are very good swimmer and wont get seasick!
correction: I was told padilla et all are reservists, not really civilian, maybe that is why civilians are to be sent, haha.
What are we afraid of sending the Navy? Baka me magalit? Ambabait naman natin. It is within our rights to do so.
ay naku, ito, pinaupo ako and was lectured. apparently, fvr passed an executive order in the late 90s making our coastguard a civilian agency. marami pala sa senado ay hindi alam ito, padilla et all included.
our navy has been escorting our coastguard in resupply missions, gawa ng nakagawan natin. hindi lang ito masyadong naintidihan sa senado, kasi akala nila military ang coastguard at hindi civilian, at ikinagalit kuno ito ng china having to confront military vessels.
maybe to appease china, pbbm is thinking of removing the 2 escorting navy ships and making our resupply mission a totally civilian affair, the coastguard will just have to fend for themselves in case of emergency.
I think, pbbm is forgetting that any ships traveling in west phil sea be they military or civilians ships are chased and harassed by china, US ships and australian ships etc. included.
seemingly, what china wants is total surrender, chinese ships to be the only ships allowed in west phil sea, their stupid 9dashline now made 10dashline followed and enforced.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/09/16/news/more-countries-eye-wps-joint-patrols/1910202?utm_source=vuukle&utm_medium=newsfeed
I think, this will not make pbbm deliriously happy, his food for thought ay may siling labuyo! the free world not bowing to china and eyeing joint patrols with us.
The Chinese Coastguard is military Robinhood insisted it was not.
The Coastguard was turned civilian because we need aid and donors with to donate to civilian institutions
thanks, you are correct. chinese coastguard was upgraded and militarized in 2018 while duterte was our sitting president. in 2018, china passed a law that allow chinese coastguard the right to bear arms and to fire at interlopers (us!) our current special envoy to china teddy locsin probly knows more about this law.
robinhood padilla ought to upgrade his learning, there are things he missed!
Ang tanga na natin mga Noypi kung si Sara pa din manalo. We can not blame Smartmatic.
But stupidmatic.
Useless ang impeachmentwith the line of succession from Pres to VP to Senate President to Speaker to Chief Justice.
Who needs ananti dynasty law with all the name recall style of voting?
This is a video of how BBM was cheered in Singapore which shows how strange it is. And what Juan Tamad who is probably not really tamad and certainly not tanga said is right, they just don’t get it.
https://www.rappler.com/nation/elections/overseas-posts-begin-releasing-poll-results-uniteam-gets-landslide-wins-2022/
apparently in singapore, pbbm has got 3x the number of votes than leni, hence the presence of the mga tagahanga niya. I think, that may well be because the marcoses have invested part of their stolen wealth in singapore after they vamoozed from manila in the 80s, the investment under the stewardship of imee’s singaporean boyfriend at the time. seemingly, the marcos name is known in singapore.
I think, it’s ironic that lee kwan yew was uberly critical of makoy and yet, years later, makoy’s heir is hobnailing with lee kwan yew’s dearest kin. and singapore is fast turning to be playground of the marcoses! I am presuming the marcoses still have lucrative holdings and properties in singapore contributing to singapore’s price index, haha.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9ldU1J3kY0H_6MZC5ZnmXGyV3qymbw0au6w&usqp=CAU
I think the great lee kwan yew made a mistake saying filipinos are too forgiving to welcome back the marcoses; singapoeans are just as forgiving and maybe more welcoming now that marcos heir is president and rolled out the red carpet.
Never underestimate the stupidity of Pinoy voters, karl.
hi, pinoy voters will immediately stop being stupid if given massive amount of confidential and intel funds to dispose as they see fit, I bet my last remaining pair of high heels on it, haha!
“Never underestimate the stupidity of Pinoy voters, karl.”
It never cease to amaze
Truly of a different breed. She has her feet well grounded even if she’s on top of the highest peak.
Iconic patriot!
Succint interview, Will!
Heto si Maharlika tuluyan ng bumaliktad. Bakit ganun na lang ang galit nya kay kuting at kay ahas.
she has many damning pics and videos she could use and has yet to release. the snippets of her travels overseas to heckle and humiliate those invited to speak at universities and forums and seemingly funded by who? the hundreds of selfies she has with the now powers that be must be what legends are made of. and I’m presuming the eye watering pay she has previously receive to malign leni et is sadly missed, haha.
oh, what a difference a year make, damn, my funny bone is haywiring. apologies.
Totally don’t know her but she’s all over the soc med. I’m tempted to wildly speculate she was Junior’s former girlfriend at inahas ni Liza Araneta. 🙂
I personally am disappointed with Robredo. Her failure to speak out against Comelec’s reticent conduct and to defend citizens’ constitutional right to information on matters of public concern is appalling. Many letters have been sent to her. She didn’t even have the basic courtesy to reply.
everybody wants leni to be activist and speaking on things she did not fund, approved or commissioned. but the lady has other priorities now. it is up to any of us to stand up and be counted.
parang hapo na po si leni, give her space. she has fought a good fight.
anyone concern about their own constitution rights ought to bring it to proper authorities like lgus, the human rights commission, their senate rep, etc.
“It comes when it comes,” I say the majority is not silent, this government is deaf. Do we wait for the current admin to implode? In the meantime, do we shrug our shoulders until the weight of mismanagement destroys our Inang Bayan?
we hope for the best but expect the worst, or something similar.
please naman po, no imploding sa current admin. the expense of having state funeral followed by burial sa libingan ng mga bayan is grotesque and astronomical. and now that electronic cheating at election has been fined tuned, digital vote buying as well, dynasties can live forever. maliban lang kung may dynastic competition, dynasty vs dynasty, may away sila and bullets are exchange.
WordPress has updated comment format?
it did!
comment format has changed, give me headache, haha.
comment format has changed!
I take it they’re not leni’s fan, much as I’m not pbbm’s fan. as we cannot all be geniuses, some of us have to be stupid. and it must really rankle, kahit talo si leni, she is still much admired and much sought after public speaker here and abroad, and she still has tons of followers. leni looks happy and content, unlike that gurl close to the president na parang nasapian! always rolling her eyes upward parang possessed by the devil.
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/882951/cebu-4th-grade-student-joins-vp-sara-as-official-guest-on-korea-trip/story/
ano ba ito, sara always with menor de edad? you can be vp kuno, why not, you can be president! doesnt everybody wants to be president? why settle for 2nd best when you can be 1st? and why always mga menor de edad ang laging sinasama! arent adults not good enough? just asking.
She really has to portray contrast to the max to distance herself from her father. And that takes like plucking a child and bring it to some place that will hug the headlines for positive effect. Maybe someday Sara will adopt babies and show how nurturing motherly she is.
I mean, with a father who has killed more than a hundred children on ‘war on drugs’, Sara has to present herself as the soft side, the conscience, the good part of the Duterte tree. How long will she do the image rebuilding and refocusing is anybody guess but right off the bat I can say I don’t think she fits to be president.
may kainuman are saying sara is peddling political narratives to young children on the sly.
https://politics.com.ph/2023/09/24/watch-may-bitbit-na-bata-sara-duterte-brings-9-year-old-cebu-kid-to-south-korea/
sans chaperone, I hope this poor kid is not going to have nightmare, surrounded by strangers and grown ups, talking and using big words maybe too foreign for him to comprehend. unlike the kid shortchange in the indiana jones movies, this pinoy kid looks like a liliput, lost.
Musical intermission: KZ Tandingan and SB19 performed together at her concert last Friday, with a rock version of SB19’s Crimzone:
https://youtu.be/0FgvsVcP6iw?si=PjPqSiyLj9nI_YE-
Also interesting: after their Watson’s Playlist concert with Ben and Ben plus some others last Saturday, SB19 announced that they will soon start their Asian tour, more details from Oct. 1st. They just barnstormed North America..
I have asked Bard this: “Is the Philippines ancient Ophir?”. It answered:
“The Philippines is one of several places that have been proposed as the location of the ancient land of Ophir, which is mentioned in the Bible as a source of gold, precious stones, and other exotic goods. However, there is no definitive evidence to support any one location, and the question of where Ophir was remains a mystery.
There are some arguments in favor of the Philippines being Ophir. The Philippines is rich in gold and other precious metals, and it is located in a region that was known to ancient traders. Additionally, there are some similarities between the Philippine language and the Hebrew word for Ophir.
However, there are also some arguments against the Philippines being Ophir. The Bible describes Ophir as being a three-year journey from Israel, but the Philippines is only a few months away by boat. Additionally, the Bible does not mention any specific geographical features of Ophir that would match the Philippines.
Ultimately, there is no consensus among historians on whether or not the Philippines is Ophir. The evidence is inconclusive, and the question remains a matter of debate.
Here are some of the arguments for and against the Philippines being Ophir:
The Philippines is one of several places that have been proposed as the location of the ancient land of Ophir, which is mentioned in the Bible as a source of gold, precious stones, and other exotic goods. However, there is no definitive evidence to support any one location, and the question of where Ophir was remains a mystery.
There are some arguments in favor of the Philippines being Ophir. The Philippines is rich in gold and other precious metals, and it is located in a region that was known to ancient traders. Additionally, there are some similarities between the Philippine language and the Hebrew word for Ophir.
However, there are also some arguments against the Philippines being Ophir. The Bible describes Ophir as being a three-year journey from Israel, but the Philippines is only a few months away by boat. Additionally, the Bible does not mention any specific geographical features of Ophir that would match the Philippines.
Ultimately, there is no consensus among historians on whether or not the Philippines is Ophir. The evidence is inconclusive, and the question remains a matter of debate..”
Another proposal was:
“The identification of the Philippines with the biblical land of Ophir is a controversial topic. There is no definitive proof that the two are the same place, but there is some evidence to support the theory.
Ophir is mentioned in the Bible as a source of gold, precious stones, and other valuable goods. The Philippines is also known for its gold and other natural resources. Additionally, the Philippines is located in a region that was known to ancient traders, and it is possible that the ships of King Solomon traveled there to obtain goods.
However, there are also some challenges to the theory that the Philippines is Ophir. For example, the Bible does not provide a specific location for Ophir, and there are other places in the world that could also fit the description. Additionally, some scholars argue that the goods mentioned in the Bible as coming from Ophir are not exclusive to the Philippines..”
What question shall we ask next?
I know! “Is the story of Tallano gold true or that of the Yamashita treasure?” THE ANSWER IS:
“The stories of Tallano gold and the Yamashita treasure are both controversial, and there is no definitive proof that either of them are true.
Tallano gold is said to be a treasure trove of gold and other precious artifacts that was hidden by the indigenous Tallano people of the Philippines in the 16th century to protect it from Spanish conquistadors. There have been many reports of people finding Tallano gold over the years, but none of these reports have been verified.
The Yamashita treasure is said to be a vast hoard of gold, silver, and other valuables that was looted by the Japanese army during World War II and hidden somewhere in the Philippines. The treasure is named after General Tomoyuki Yamashita, who was the commander-in-chief of the Japanese forces in the Philippines during the war.
There have been many attempts to find the Yamashita treasure, but none of them have been successful. Some people believe that the treasure is real, while others believe that it is just a myth.
So, which story is true?
It is impossible to say for sure. There is evidence to support both stories, but there is also no definitive proof that either of them are true. It is possible that one or both of the stories are true, but it is also possible that they are both myths.
It is important to note that there have been many scams associated with both Tallano gold and the Yamashita treasure. People have been scammed out of millions of dollars by people who promise to help them find the treasure.
If you are interested in learning more about Tallano gold or the Yamashita treasure, I recommend doing your own research and being skeptical of any claims that you hear.”
that reminds me of the legend of the nazi massive war treasure hidden in the deep caves of poland? modern day treasure hunters are still looking for the loot and made documentaries about it.
same as el dorado and all that gold and not forgetting the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
and if both tallano gold and yamashita gold exist, our people would have found it long before. our country has been farmed, mined and logged to within inches of its life, and we have compounding land slides and catastrophic flooding. any treasure would have been exposed or washed out to sea! and for that event not to be noticed by us – that near impossible!
nice stories though.
I remember during the time of Noel Soriano, the national security adviser of Cory Aquino, when Fort Santiago was excavated by treasure hunters looking for Japanese war loot. Nothing came out of it.
Irineo,
The topic of the blog article is “Leni Robredo,” so answers to the following would be relevant or interesting:
1. Why would Leni be better than BBM as Philippine President?
2. Why would you say Leni is Christian?
3. Has Leni hinted at what can distinguish the Philippines (for the better, of course)?
“What qualifies Leni Robredo as a national leader?”
Bard answered:
“Leni Robredo qualifies as a national leader for a number of reasons, including her:
– Experience in government: Robredo has served in government for over a decade, starting as a congresswoman and then as vice president. In these roles, she has gained a deep understanding of the challenges facing the Philippines and the workings of the government.
– Competence: Robredo is a highly intelligent and competent individual. She has a degree in economics from the University of the Philippines Diliman and a law degree from Ateneo de Manila University. She is also a member of the Philippine Bar.
– Integrity and honesty: Robredo is known for her integrity and honesty. She has a clean track record and has never been accused of corruption.
– Compassion and empathy: Robredo is a compassionate and empathetic leader. She is deeply concerned about the plight of the poor and marginalized and is committed to working to improve their lives.
– Vision and leadership: Robredo has a clear vision for the Philippines and the leadership skills to make that vision a reality. She is a decisive and strategic leader who is not afraid to make tough decisions.
In addition to these qualities, Robredo has also demonstrated her ability to unite people from all walks of life. She has a broad coalition of supporters that includes people from different political parties, religions, and social classes. This ability to build consensus is essential for any leader who wants to succeed in a diverse country like the Philippines.
Overall, Leni Robredo is a highly qualified and experienced leader who has the skills and qualities necessary to lead the Philippines into a better future.”
“What qualifies Bongbong Marcos as a national leader?”
Bard answered:
“Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr. was elected as the 17th president of the Philippines on May 9, 2022. He was the son of former President Ferdinand Marcos Sr., who was ousted from power in 1986 following a popular uprising.
Marcos Jr.’s qualifications as a national leader have been the subject of much debate. Some argue that his experience as a senator and governor make him a qualified leader, while others point to his lack of any significant achievements in these positions.
Marcos Jr.’s supporters argue that he has a strong understanding of the Philippines’ political and economic landscape. They also point to his commitment to unity and reconciliation, as evidenced by his campaign slogan, “Uniteam.”
Marcos Jr.’s critics argue that he is inexperienced and unqualified to be president. They also point to his family’s history of human rights abuses and corruption.
In conclusion, Bongbong Marcos Jr.’s qualifications as a national leader are a matter of opinion. His supporters believe that he is a qualified leader with the experience and commitment to lead the Philippines, while his critics argue that he is inexperienced and unqualified.”
https://apnews.com/article/china-philippines-south-sea-barrier-scarborough-68163cbe8c5b3ad7844dfecad71bce9c
pbbm maybe inexperienced and unqualified, but he has the support of allies like the united states, japan, south korea et al.
and backed by the whole might of the mutual defense treaty, pbbm ordered philippines coastguards to remove the floating barriers erected by china.
I may not like pbbm, but I respect his office and gives credit where credit is due.
Yes, indeed. I’m thinking President Marcos has a deep nationalistic persona from his family’s history here. The Dutertes lack that loyalty to nation. They relate better to gangsters. So we do have a good defense effort from President Marcos.
The facts are – whether one likes Marcos Sr. or not – that he did have Pag-Asa island settled, planted the flag there, had the airstrip built.
There is even rusted anti-aircraft artillery there, dating back to those days.
when makoy was good, he is good, when he is bad, he’s too bad. and pbbm is proud of his father’s legacy, apparently.
and pbbm’s legacy? seemingly curtailing the profits of rice smugglers by bringing down the price of rice to 20pesos per kilo as per election promise.
rice smugglers are apparently hardest to ID, so well protected, so well connected, their clandestine activities so well hidden, that maybe, pbbm is doing the alternative route and hitting them in the hip pocket.
if a miracle happened and smugglers are ID-ed, taken to court and slapped fines? nah, they’re gone overseas, tipped off by cohorts in high places.
another of pbbm’s legacy, maybe the more lasting and definitive of his regime? an uncontrollable vice president and a great launderer of confidential fund, more strong willed than him!
It plays out like a fine stage drama right before our eyes. The new bill will punish major food gamers with life in prison, so they’re wise to head overseas.
ahem, easy to head overseas. no problem. they have open airline tickets, rich as they are, to be used when needed. airlines are only too willing to accommodate them, customs as well, giving them priority treatment and quickly waving them off. and sometimes, the brave ones stay locally and hide in plain sight, in underground tunnels mayhap. ask ping lacson, he knows how to hide in plain sight, as he has done before when he was facing some – murder rap? pres aquino absolved him yata.
good luck with the law.
I’m tempted to ask BARD if the KJV Bible is better for Filipinos who don’t even generally read Shakespeare. I asked it to do Beowulf instead…
the last version is my favorite. LOL!
I believe it was Joe who first mentioned the King James Bible (or KJV Bible) in this blog article about Leni.
Since LCPL_X mentioned it just now, let me at least ask the reader to find an “error” or a seemingly misplaced comma in its translation of Genesis 36:24.
See https://magilas.me/bhb-gen3624
Hint:
Do you usually see a comma separating two words after the preposition “both”?
Well, my comment pertained to being sensible, not the Bible. The Bible was merely an example. My King James Bible is a treasure to me, not for the grammar, but for the lessons found there. I wrote notes in the margins from my years of study so it is a worn and scrabbly tome of things learned and questions asked. I didn’t bring it to the Philippines because paper here melts in the sun and ink runs with the humidity. It is tucked safely in the illegal library I built in my ex-wife’s garage, now my daughter’s, where it is guarded by bevies of black widow spiders.
Civil society and the opposition should push hard on what Duterte is doing or she will have the coat of impunity and continue the malpractice of un-audited budget allocation or what amounts to as malversation of public funds.
Joe, what I learned from the seemingly misplaced or unnecessary comma in Genesis 36:24 [“both Ajah, and Anah:”] was how even more different [than I had previously thought] the KJB is from all the other versions.
For instance, where it says “mules,” the others say “hot springs” or “water” or “Jamin” or “Imim.”
Although it happened only about a year ago, I do not now recall what exactly had made me take notice of the comma.
(By the way, it later made me recall my discovery of a seemingly innocuous or insignificant matter in the Operations Manual of the DC-10. This happened shortly after I had started working with Lufthansa. The company had, at the time, been operating the wide-body aircraft for many years (I would say, 7 years, because 7 is my favorite number hahaha).
To my amazement, a Lufthansa department in Cologne disseminated, within minutes or the same day, a notice about it to all stations that might be affected.)
Small things.
“jot and tittle.”
https://biblehub.com/matthew/5-18.htm
Ha, 7 is my lucky number. As a 10 year old little league pitcher, when I got 2 strikes on a kid, I’d walk back behind the mound, irritating the ump and my coach, and scratch a 7 in the dirt. Then I’d return to the pitching rubber and sling strike 3.
There is no godly editor to discern the best writing, so it falls to us fallibles to make a decision. Rather than debate the form, I’d argue we should seek unity on its meaning. In that selected passage, the meaning to me is commitment to the rules of community well-being, for without the rules and the commitment to them, we remain but animals, scratching and clawing one another. Rather like House Republicans.
“Rather than debate the form, I’d argue we should seek unity on its meaning.”
Joe, unity sounds better than debate. 🙂
The meaning can be best fathomed through the context.
And it is helpful to realize there are no commas [as Lance pointed out] in Hebrew.
I believe there are no prepositions nor capitalizations, either.
In technical matters, the details truly matter most. A comma or a dot missing can mean the difference between a program crashing in my profession.
The DC-10 clearly shows you were active in the 1970s. That plane always stuck out with its unusual having an engine at the back. Last commercial flight of a DC-10 was in 2014, I read.
Well, even the 737 is rare nowadays – the times when it was heavily upgraded as competition came with the Airbus A320 family is now decades ago.
Irineo,
I should have made clear the “error” was about the loading of empty pallets. The year was 1981. I was with Lufthansa Manila 1981-1985.
Being the very first employee in operations in Manila, I went to Seeheim – https://www.lh-seeheim.de/en/ – nine times during that period. I had to finish all relevant training courses – which I did not mind. After all, I could never get enough of those freshly-baked bread in the kitchen every morning!
“In fact, there have been many successful Filipino leaders who were not Christian, including President Corazon Aquino and President Fidel V. Ramos.”
I wonder what makes them “not Christian.”
The former is too much praying the latter is too much cigar smoking, I think, which Jesus looked down upon.
i7, there’s no commas and there’s no “and” in the original Hebrew. dots and dashes you see now are also modern inventions.
So if commas and &s are not even in the original text, why make a fuss now?
sample:
read:
You don’t have to be an expert in ancient Hebrew just go by what that lady said,
then match it on the original Hebrew of said sentence you’re referring to here:
p.s.
remember you read Hebrew right to left.
ooooooooops…
I thought i posted the underlined ‘ve (“and”) so here you go again, but this time I translated some words for effect notice how Anah is written twice one with ‘ve then by itself.
Superb point. Also attached to any interpretation of a paragraph or verse or section is the context of the Bible itself and its intended moral and life’s lessons at the time of its writing. Change the date by a thousand years and you have done more than change the punctuation, you’ve changed the whole foundation. Pork is no longer diseased and moneychangers have their own temples.
Gospel of Mark reconned pork. supposedly the original Greek has a certain cadence wherein that part about pork is broken thus hinting to anachronistic adding of pork as being fine.
As for money changers they were there supposedly to change foreign money to Jewish money (shekels) and I guess they were screwing with exchange rates which really pissed Jesus off.
ooooops, i meant…
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retcon
ret·con
verb
past tense: retconned; past participle: retconned
revise (an aspect of a fictional work) retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.
“I think fans get more upset when characters act blatantly out of established type, or when things get retconned”
I’m amused that it applies to fictional works. Anyhow, thanks for the introduction to the new word. And that bit about interrupted Greek rhythms is Sherlock Holmes level stuff.
Lance, why fuss over commas?
Let us ask the “Comma Queen”:
https://magilas.me/comma-queen
Please stop.
You will make us all commatose.
i7, I’m not gonna click on your custom made links. you already know this.
But you’re living in a time where you can go past the KJV and access ancient Hebrew experts from Israel just by Googling and be able to verify prefixes that stand for the word ‘and’. So you never have to fuss over commas.
So next time don’t waste your brain juices and create unnecessary meaning off some random “comma” somewhere, get into the habit of Googling and comparing Hebrew to its translations. Some translations will be more difficult of course, but
as you can see above ‘commas’ is a pretty easy fix. Like I said you don’t have to be a Hebrew expert (I don’t speak or read Hebrew) you just have to be able to recognize prefixes by looking at patterns.
voila! no commas. no ands. go straight to the Hebrew for the OT, or for the NT to Greek.
ps., I like these rabbit holes of yours so if you have others you can definitely share with me and if I find it worthwhile then I’ll help you out (this wasn’t really worthwhile tbh, but its illustrative in the value of Googling for no ‘commas’ ).
Lance (LCPL_X), I meant to use the link as a “placeholder” – knowing it would take me longer to give a better response.
I skimmed through the short videos accessible through the placeholder and found them witty, funny …
and so decided to post it.
https://www.newyorker.com/video/series/comma-queen
Comma Queen
Mary Norris on language in all its facets.
“Awesome” is the new “massive”
“I” versus “me”
A Christmassy Carol
Affect vs. Effect
An Episode of Diaeresis
As You Like It
Excuse Me! Your Participle Is Dangling
Further or Farther?
How to Punctuate Your (Parentheses)
If Less Is More, Sometimes Fewer Is Better
Mad Dash
Mad Dash, The Sequel
NONE: Singular or plural?
On “Impact”
On Prepositions
Pronouns for Pets
Selfies
Space: The Final Frontier
Spelling Insurance
Syntactical Fission: Splitting the Infinitive
That vs. Which
The Ellipsis: Yadda Yadda Yadda
The Illustrious Ampersand
The Importance of Serial Commas
The Lay of the Lie/Lay Land
The Semicolon; or, Mastering the Giant Comma
The Singular “Their”
The Singular “Their,” Part Two
Who/Whom for Dummies
Fwiw, I will post a response about the comma in Genesis 36:24 within a day or two.
Salamat.
oh thanks, i7! I like this lady. first i’ve heard of her.
recently saw My Salinger Year before that Rebel in the Rye, i’m a big fan of this literary stuff but prefer videos and movies. so these Mary Norris videos are right up my alley tbh.
Lance,
I finally found the article I had been looking for.
It is the one that I hope can somehow – or, in a roundabout way) help shed more light on the significance to the comma (before “and Anah:”) in Genesis 36:24.
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“The Mystery of Mysteries”
Part 1: The stubbornness of the mule problem in Darwinian science and Jewish cosmology.
Posted on January 16, 2019 by David Porush
This is Part 1 of a three-part series about the mule,
the hybrid problem in science, and ways in which Darwinism and the Jewish Bible
illuminate each other. You can find the other parts here:
Part 2: Anah’s Mule and Torah’s Darwinian Experiment
Part 3: A Fertile Hybrid: Torah’s Quantum Theo-biological Solution to Darwin’s Problem
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I need to send a follow-up because my response will likely bring up more questions than answers.
A wholly interesting article about mules, not commas, so you’ll have to help me through that one. I’ve always agreed with the author that the Bible and science are not in conflict, but I avoid discussing it because both scientists and religious people are hard of head and it’s not worth the effort. I did laugh aloud at the author’s sense of humor when he wrote “Alpine whitefish, too, are getting smoked.” THAT was the funniest line I’ve ever read in a work of non-fiction.
I like where you’re taking this now, i7.
Speciation is a favorite topic of mine.
and connects very much to CRISPR which china is now using to reengineer humans. i’ve always joked you reengineer humans and you’ll always end up with Vikings. so Chinese Vikings is in our future.
Along the same lines is virgin births in parts of the animal kingdom. called Parthenogenesis. that i’m sure is related too.
but your mules is more in line with what scientists are now studying up north with Polar bear and Grizzly hybrids. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introgression
As far as the Bible goes, and especially with CRISPR, i think Balaam’s donkey is now possible.
FWIW, I don’t hold Darwin’s theory as the end all be all. I think humans are the product of cross hybridization by aliens. how else can physically weak bodies without claws or fangs dominate the world?
But speciation is it. on that articles point though, i don’t think every hybrid in the wild results in sterile offsprings, I’ll have to Google this though.
i mean if parthenogenesis plays a part in all this, just like how there seems to be homeostasis of male to female births, like how does nature know Hey we need more males down here!
so Darwin’s theory back in the 1850s is incomplete and he said it himself. science is where we uncover more, religion is where we connect it to bigger things, but what of aliens?
haha, sometimes you are funny, Irineo. it’s those inverted commas I’m worried. I’m scared of their attributes.
😂🤣😂👍🏆
Bard is publicly available for you to ask it:
https://bard.google.com/chat
her house ought to be raided, she might still have millions hidden under the mattress!
ahem, it’s not only money she ate up, but also the president’s dignity and integrity.
I don’t think so. He is not being called out, but she is.
marcos is supposed to be the responsible one and the buck stops with him. it’s his admin, he’s the president and should call his own team member, sara, to heel! or she’ll easy peasy bring down his admin.
marcos and sara share the presidency, they both share the job but marcos is ultimately still the president and outranked sara even though sara is officer in charge in marcos’s absence.
his head must be stuck in the sand not to see what sara is doing! he really should talk to sara, they’re in a team, or maybe, he’s too afraid to talk to sara, baka mabugbug siya, haha. but if he talks nicely to sara, she might reconsider, yes?
he’s not being called? he passed on the money to sara, that alone warrants his look-see. sangkot siya! he cannot just wash his hands.
“his head must be stuck in the sand not to see what sara is doing! he really should talk to sara, they’re in a team, or maybe, he’s too afraid to talk to sara, baka mabugbug siya, haha. but if he talks nicely to sara, she might reconsider, yes?”
I’f I’m BBM I’m not going to do that. First, it’s not a good optics for a president ‘talking’ to the vice president regarding her activities. Suspicion of collusion or connivance must be avoided. Second, it’s her office, it’s her responsibility. And like BBM, she’s not only responsible to her constituents but to all Filipinos.
begging your pardon, but I must thank the lord, you’re not the president, haha.
Yes, agree.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2023/09/29/2299850/house-strips-sara-confidential-fund
ito, santa came early. no more confidential and intel fund for sara.
Cielo Magno is a fresh sense of sense, ejected from government because she knew fixing rice prices was foolish. Loyalty is more important than sense in the Marcos government.
pbbm seems to shortsighted, sigh! he can barely control his vice and she is making him appear a ding a ling ling!
so he made a mistake of passing on 150millions confidential fund to her, big deal! people can accept a mistake so long as pbbm shows leadership and make hard decisions like having the courage to overrule his vice and tell her to submit to audit. a good leader is not only defined by his position but by his action and reaction.
sabi ng mga kainuman ko, people are forgiving of courageous leaders that make hard decisions and get it wrong. but people are less kind to leaders who lacked the courage to make hard decisions when needed.
I imagine Marcos slaps his forehead as we do, watching the VP blunder about. or he may smile wickedly, how can we know?
marcos has the power to stop his vp to blunder about like a hilong tilapia. if only he has the guts to do it. if he does not know how to approach sara, he should ask help from his chief of staff.
and he cannot be smiling wickedly behind our backs when we are not looking at him coz whatever sara does, it reflects on his admin. on us too. poorly.
Yes, but as with other conflicts, he avoids them. He won’t do anything overt, I think.
yeah, a gutless wonder?
A political chameleon.
A recent blog article by henerallunacy on Philippine national debt:
The massive debt — is partly why an escapist mentality have formed among some of the supposed young bourgeois intelligentsia today who thought it would be best to abandon the country to only the political elite and the dispossessed, than keep on the fight.
have no fear! pbbm has let loose maharlika fund and all our money problems will be miraculously solved. if only. poison chalice para sa akin yan.
nice to hear from you, madlang! hope things are okay with yous.
Superb article.
I tried to look the other way, 14.2trillions is really one big utang and now I wonder how much of that utang is peke (fake)!
pres duterte racked up high interest chinese loans and yet the chinese did not honor their part and projects were ditched. so, why do we have to repay a null loan?
chinese loans not honored should have been written off, our national debt adjusted and reviewed, and end result ought not be high as 14.2billions!
For 30 ghost employees, Roderick Paulate is in jail.
For 11,246 ghost employees, the Dutertes are boastful and have prided in their access to billions of confidential funds.
https://pressone.ph/roderick-paulate-is-a-small-fry/?fbclid=IwAR3nR8iSvp8_MJv0wNMDwzsDzpI7SIRchhhc8f7mS4bMkeukJkjzq8xWE6c
pbbm probly now realised his enemy are within arm’s length of him, bleeding our country’s coffer. apparently, he has punishing overseas travel schedules to pursue and convince foreign investors to invest in our country, but with a vp like sara playing president in his absence, investors are cautious to commit. not likely to get good return for their investment.
All the investors who might be convinced by pbbm probably already have given their money to a Nigerian prince and are waiting for huge returns.
The ratification of the Maharlika fund just took way too long. 🤨
the legality of maharlika fund is to be fought at supreme court, it is being tro-ed (temporary restraining order) by the likes of neri colmenares et al.
now, if pbbm is indeed persuasive and so smooth a talker, he may yet convince all the nigerian princes of the world to invest their moneys in his pet fund. if he can do so to high flyers money launderers as well, our country may become a hub. and if the fund churned out and made so much money from foreign investments, pinoys may not be asked to pay anymore taxes! tax free haven na tayo, haha.
at the moment, no foreign investors yet, but plenty are interested kuno. and maharlika was kickstarted by local contribution of 50billions from our national bank.
The three top things Leni Robredo was proud of were the following:
1. Marrying Jesse Robredo
2. The pride of her life, their daughters
3. To be ‘able to resist the lure of umm…makisama sa political tide.”
Surprisingly, she did not mention the one important thing why she became known as to who she really was: the woman that represented the opposition in a presidential election to stop those that came back to redeem their place in Philippine politics and revive their lost glory. She was the candidate that voiced the aspirations and hopes of the ordinary people in their desire to better they future. She’s the one who stood against those who threatens to bring back the old wheeling and dealing ways of governance. She’s the one that represented light agains dark; the one that took up the cudgels for the common man in asserting their right to good governance.
How did she miss that I have no idea. 🫥
It is rare indeed to find a person in leadership that is able to take on the mantle and aspiration of the whole body politic. It will require strength of will and conviction of a certain ideological pathway. And in that regard I think Leni is not wholly prepared given the screwed up dynamics of Philippine electorate.
In the present political landscape there is at least the Makabayan bloc – all 3 of them in Congress out of 250 heroically pushing back on the excesses and impunity of Sara Duterte.
And there’s Risa Hontiveros by her lonesome in the senate – the only shining ray of light in that chamber of clowns and fools (think of Bato, Cynthia, and Padilla).
In a country currently run by right wing fascists, only the Makabayan is making an alternative political sense while the EDSA coalition has all been drowned out by a perpetually corrupted system of dynasts and regional gangsters.
“It will require strength of will and conviction of a certain ideological pathway. And in that regard I think Leni is not wholly prepared….”
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I hate to agree with that (not because it’s my friend Micha) but that is what I also picked up in reading the article. She’s the heart and soul of the opposition and she failed to mention that little fact.
I think her preparation was geared at the moment — during the campaign and the aftermath of the election. After the smoke has been cleared she readily accepted the result of the election and immediately focused on things she deemed more important than actively lingering and staying on as the head of the opposition. I respect that.
Everyone is not created equally. We can all be soldiers but we can never be all fighters. There would be thinkers, builders and creators among the ranks and I think Leni belongs along these categories. I admire that.
However, even though the article declared that Leni is still the same Leni one is left to wonder what specifically was meant by that. Is she the Leni that the Robredo household, relatives and friends adored and love so much for her motherly instinct and simplistic approach to life? Or is she the Leni that was inadvertently push to the center of the conflict and was chosen to represent a political group identified with the color yellow? Or is she both? It was not clear.
Anyway, whether she is seen as an enigmatic person to some and straightforward to most one thing is clear: the opposition is the last thing that preoccupies her mind nowadays.
“… the opposition is the last thing that preoccupies her mind nowadays.”
If true, where can the Philippines look to oppose what Leni was supposed to oppose and win against?
A Paradigm Shift in the Philippines is called for?
It actually has been called for for a long time now?
Hontiveros, yes, yes.
funny thing, changing political party is considered a paradigm shift in our country. as well as leaving ones job and creating new allies. not all shifts are for good and well being, some are downright outrageous, though they dont see it that way. example? I think soccorro bayanihan services inc is one, even denr (dept of energy and natl resources) got hoodwinked and offered the sect a large tract of land for them to live their nirvana to the fullest. turns out it was not to be nirvana, not for the victims.
I better stop, I talk too much, haha.
p.s. my kainuman tickled me and said, enough shift! president duterte had a burst of paradigm shift and pivoted toward china! and now, post pivot, our country is none the better, and maybe, none the wiser too.
This site used to be very active
( see https://joeam.com/2019/04/24/ist-gott-tot-is-god-dead/ )
but lately has been very quiet, so perhaps
“An Awakening” is not only more contextual
but also called-for than “Paradigm Shift”?
Let’s call the comma in Genesis 36:24
the “Anah Comma” from which we can go
the Johannine Comma of 1 John 5:7
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannine_Comma
The past Great Awakening/s in America can perhaps be the seed to An Awakening – and bursts of improvements – in the Philippines?
I now know that I noticed the “Anah Comma” about three years ago – not too long after “The Mystery of Mysteries” was written by David Porush.
(I have not seen Part 3. I wonder why he stopped. I have not corresponded with the author – much less asked him about Part 3.)
Another work I came upon around that time was this:
“Chasing the Ark of God.”
https://www.chasingthearkofgod.com/the-mayflower-compact-an-unlikely-bible/
The Mayflower Compact & An Unlikely Bible
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There are 4 surviving Bibles that are maintained in the Pilgrim Hall Museum in Plymouth, Massachusetts. Experts agree that at least two of these Bibles were brought over on the Mayflower in 1620. One belonged to Governor William Bradford and the other to John Alden.
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John Alden is 7 generations above (is that the right word?) Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
Another interesting chapter is
Breaking Bacon’s Code – Part 1
https://www.chasingthearkofgod.com/breaking-bacons-code-part-1/
As much as I hate Jehovah’s Witnesses knocking on my door and always conducting their hard sell (unlike Mormons who have a clue and say Sorry to bother you, have a great day!),
I’m with JWs on this, i7.
The Holy Trinity is bullshit. lots of retconning and conning to get to the Holy Trinity.
Monotheism is monotheism. You wanna have a pantheon then switch to Hinduism or Norse or Egyptian gods they also espouse having just one God but lots of iteration. more fun than just three.
Holy Trinity is bs. like praying to the Holy Rosary, no such thing mentioned in the Gospels. retconned and made up later. i guess to add “flavor”. all bs.
“The Holy Trinity is bullshit. lots of retconning and conning to get to the Holy Trinity.”
Lance,
What a coincidence that this,
https://www.purecambridgetext.com/post/the-holy-ghost-in-transition-part-i
was published almost the same time as your post.
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The Holy Ghost in Transition Part I
Part 1: The Holy Ghost Incognito
It may seem odd to think of the Holy Ghost in transition. After all, isn’t he God? Yes, the Holy Ghost is one of three distinct persons who are God. The word of God describes this phenomenon as “The Godhead”.
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sounds to me, leni is not one for blowing her own horn. many filipinos are like that, silent achievers and not epal, old school. though leni is as modern as being voted as chief of one recent harvard org. she keep abreast with time, but not in cahooting with those that must be pleased at all cost.
OT: A Ukrainian fan of Filipino music interviews Filipinas in Ukraine..
Also about their experiences related to the ongoing war there..
thanks, filipinos are thriving in ukraine, despite the war there. I say, if you can survive in the philippines, you can survive anywhere. god willing.
Civil war na ang unithieves.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/06/08/23/word-war-erupts-between-vp-duterte-romualdez-allies?dicbo=v2-ZPQYSIF
ay, dissenter pala ako, kontra ako sa kapayapa-an ni sara! her own style of kapayapa-an is very costly to the nation. nuong dating mayor siya sa dabaw and under her father’s watch, babad na babad na siya sa confidential fund. halos 1.5billion na mas malaki pa nga raw kaysa confidential fund sa city of makati.
and as deped sec, nearly 800 school children left school to join sect, socorro bayanihan services inc. teachers too, went to join sbci, apparently they did not trust sara with their kapayapa-an.
mas supported ko ang kapayapa-an ng bayan kaysa pansariling kapayapa-an ni inday veeps!
her confidential fund ay dapat mapunta sa coastguard who is trying hard to oversee our border, sa dept of natl defense at sa
mga agencies entrusted with our national security.
as deped sec, sara should ensure there is enough teachers and classrooms for schoolkids, teachers are paid and feeding program for schoolkids up and running.
she has budget for such activities and if she wants more money dahil nanghihimasok at nakikialam siya sa mga trabaho ng iba, someone ought to stand up to sara and tell her to stick to her own job description! hindi na siya mayor, ang ama niya ay hindi na president, at spare tire na lang siya ngayon.
dapat kumain na siya ng sarap-sarap humble durian pie, haha.
Tumpak ang iyong tinuran. Kung anti-insurgency pala ang kanyang kinagigiliwang gawin, di sana doon sya sa DND at hindi dyan sa DepEd kung saan sya ay walang competence at palpak ang kanyang pamamaraan.
But all her exaggerated claims on the perceived threat of communist insurgency is just a convenient cover so she can have access to billions of CIF. The NPAs have already been significantly weakened for reasons that have nothing to do with her having conducted surveillance or anti-insurgency operation.
sara’s has no more confidential fund for 2024. it has been re-aligned to other govt agencies dealing with national security and defense. sara’s defender, senator bato dela rosa sabi, partisan politics ang dahilan; speaker martin romualdez rebutted and said, it has nothing to do with politics but common sense.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/10/06/news/national/doj-orders-deeper-probe-of-students-death/1913397
as deped sec, sara ought to look into the death of a schoolkid who may have suffered concussion after being slapped by his teacher. the kid manifested symptoms of concussion prior to his death such as headache, vomiting, ringing in his ears, etc.
Let us get things more up-to-date.
These two links will take you to the same site:
1 https://magilas.me/kat-von-d
2 https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/10/04/tattoo-artist-kat-von-d-baptized-into-christianity-after-tossing-witchcraft-books/
Watch:
Fashion Mogul Kat Von D Baptized into Christianity
After Tossing Witchcraft Books
It is very wonderful event – in America or any other place in the world – if Kat Von D is indeed a Christian now.
Let us go to the main topic of this blog article: Leni.
Is Leni Robredo Christian? Perhaps as clearly Christian as Kat Von D?
(It is my first time to hear of Kat Von D, by the way.)
No thanks, I had my fill of American-style Talibanic Christofascism.