Supporting VP Robredo: or re-learning how to follow

VP Robredo via ABS-CBN. I removed the original photo as it was not very kind (Kine upside down).

By Joe America

The subject here is discretion. Do we, as people who seek freedom, fairness, and security under the Philippine Constitution, have it?

Do we have the ability to manage our own agenda to support a woman who is leading an important initiative, the fight against illegal drugs? Do we have the ability to let the leader lead, or must we try to impose our agenda on her?

The former director of Asia’s Human Rights Watch organization, a man named Phelim Kine, did not apply discretion. This is what he wrote on Twitter as soon as VP Robredo accepted the drug leadership role:

Well, Mr. Kine tried to push his cart in front of VP Leni Robredo’s horse and Foreign Affairs Secretary Locsin was having none of it. He banned Kine from the Philippines: “Locsin to deny entry to rights defender“; Inquirer

And rightfully so.

Vice President Robredo’s agenda is very narrow. It is well defined. It is not to lead the yellow charge from within to right all the perceived wrongs of President Rodrego Duterte. It is to build a successful program to stop the flow and usage of illegal drugs in the Philippines.

As I said in a tweet that was inspired by Mr. Kine’s unfortunate remark:

One drawback with social media is that it makes each of us a leader in our own subset of the universe. But there can be only one leader of the anti-drug program. Those who would have VP Robredo fight THEIR war as well as her challenging task are doing her no favors. We need to unlearn some bad habits, I think, and get a grip on being a good follower.

Just as the Duterte stooges should stop their yapping from the sidelines instructing the VP how to do her job, the ‘Yellows’ should also stop instructing the Vice President how to do her job. Suggestions, posed respectfully, fine. Senator Lacson took that approach. But laying demands on the Vice President?

I’d suggest it is time to practice being a better follower. Otherwise there will be no good end to the VP’s bold initiative. There’s no need to hurry. Leave the unrealistic expectations to whackadoodle House Speaker Alan Cayetano, who expected results in three days.

Simply nurture the promise represented by a very promising leader.

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This post will be open for discussion. The rules are:

  1. No bad manners, swearing, or insults.
  2. No agenda pushing.
  3. The values framework is the Philippine Constitution.
  4. Be prepared to cite resources for claims made.
  5. This is a discussion forum; use restraint on links (2 max) and photos

 

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224 Responses to “Supporting VP Robredo: or re-learning how to follow”
  1. Well said! So many lives are at stake here.

    • Indeed. That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s why the VP accepted the task.

      • popoy says:

        ON page 70 of the about to be out, Vol 2 of CONSTANT WINDS: Up Close and Personal,
        Preface kindly written by JoeAm, here is written about VP Leni.
        Her Character Is Her Fate, Her Destiny

        Events and people make history
        which is food that nourish
        the brains of philosophers;
        which help scientists to establish
        the truth about nature;

        which time washes into conjectures
        like your character is your fate
        and your fate is your destiny;

        which the passage of time constitutes
        WHAT YOU CAN DO OR FAILS TO DO
        to come to the aid of your countrymen.

        Fate and destiny were all written for Leni
        when her Jesse went missing and
        Noynoy and Mar stayed with her
        for days till everything was okay.

        Leni’s fate and destiny then
        became quite clear she will likely
        replicate that of Cory and so are
        all the events that might happen.

        Wait and see. They who sleeps and
        stay snoring in the noodle house
        will one day wake up like Rip Van Winkle
        to see the changes wrought by fate and destiny
        brought down on the shoulder of a woman;
        VP Atty. Maria Leonor Gerona Robredo.

        -The Society of Honor blog October 17, 2017
        ——————————

        • karlgarcia says:

          There you go, the noodle house musings I was looking for.

          • popoy says:

            Thanks Karl; I wrote something I think about the traffic problem when it was no longer solvable; those snoozers no longer repose in the noodle house but somewhere in Heritage Park. Metro Manila to serve North and the South Expressways need at least 8 repeat 8
            EDSA in parallel constructed through the exercise of eminent domain.

            • karlgarcia says:

              I remember Edgar saying that you have posted enpugh excetpts of your book here, so he already read the free version.
              I hope your publisher arranges a deal with Fully Booked and Power Books.

              • popoy says:

                No worry there on them books, Karl, two can be had sooner, two more God Willing, will follow a little later. The goal is there not for the money or fame but for students and young adults to read and discuss their countries snoozing power at the expense of progress and the tragedy of being never ending dirt poor. To date, I have not received a single US cent (51 Philippine centavo) for my writing and painting.

              • karlgarcia says:

                I understand popoy, but rather than them reading your works here at TSOH or purchase from Amazon, It would be nice tif it is available at a book store,there are people without smartphones or computers. Just a suggestion.

                Thanks.

  2. Wilfredo G. Villanueva says:

    VP Leni Robredo can’t be stampeded. She has steely resolve. Have seen her a foot away several times. She’s interested in your questions, in what you represent. But you can feel her intensity, like touching the rails, feel them vibrate, before the train makes an appearance. You know you have to get out of the way. You have been warned.

    About separating Duterte from anti-drug targets: you call the right shots, Duterte falls anyway. Drugs and Duterte have one heart, one soul, one pair of lungs.

    Impossible to separate one from the other. It’s like separating Leni from Jessie.

    • I read your comment on FB, Will. I don’t agree that they cannot be separated. The Vice President’s success rides on HER making the correct judgments on what her priorities should be, and so far, I think she is 100% on the right path. Her immediate priority is to stop the killings and do the important RIGHT things: education of youth, rehabilitation and counseling, and I suspect going after pipelines into the Philippines (I’ve not read anything on that). She’s not there to punish or get China out of the seas or anything but build a respectful, working drug program. Kine’s rant was poorly done and the VP should thank Sec Locsin for keeping him out of her hair.

    • karlgarcia says:

      Kuya Wil, I have to disagree on your post about either support the VP or shutup.
      That is doing the DDS or GW approach of with us or against us.

      The post of FSolgen Hilbay about emulating VP Leni’s lowkey, calm and humble approach is the way to go.
      Just an opinion.

      I also must be used to socmed’s rough and tough environment by now, but I still find nothing wrong with civility.
      I may have short feuds time and again, but I do not want it to be a habit. So far in twitter, I got to block those I found toxic, but I can’t do that all the time.

      • There are ways of respectfully disagreeing and criticizing constructively. One can, for example, even argue against a law but still follow it while it is a law. One can have an opposite opinion in a meeting of a group but still support the majority decision.

        Filipino democracy is still evolving. Especially people’s democracy as opposed to former elite democracy.

        Are democracy and leadership opposites? HELL NO. I like it when a good leader takes the weight off me. Life itself is hard enough. VP Leni does inspire confidence, I even can sleep in the Knödelhaus if I want now.

      • karlgarcia says:

        Did I say civility? I still find nothing wrong it so
        I will civilly say that Cayetano, Panelo, Go, Bato, Aquino(pdea),Duterte are Equus Asimus and sphincterum musculus by persistently undermining Leni, even if Leni is up to the challenge.

        • Add Senator Sotto who said there is no need to provide the VP with the list of drug lords because, essentially, she might not keep it secret. What business is it of the Senator’s, to make such pronouncements?

          • karlgarcia says:

            I forgot about him who thinks we still use telegraphs to transmit communication🙄

            • kasambahay says:

              the chinese are probly better than sotto, most likely better. instead of telegraph poles, the chinese are installing super high tech communication towers maybe with facial recognition too sa luob mismo ng military camps, lol! chinese towers, from tower to tower, all will be able to communicate, transmit and receive anything and everything from our military.

              espionage and foreign interference is worse than terrorism, is what I think. and they’re there right in the middle of our military. but no worries, may pangontra kuno ang military natin, yeah right, still using telegraph poles yata sila. sotto would love that.

              • karlgarcia says:

                You took the words right out of my fingers.
                Transmission lines, telcos are avenues for open secrets.
                What are they talking about sspreading classified state secrets via telegraph? 😉

              • kasambahay says:

                cheers, karlg. there are so many ideas floating the air, best to pluck them. one idea I’ve plucked is the famed pangontra taunted by our militay vs china’s ultra high tech communication towers: the mask of duterte, lol! the idea gotten from the hongkongers, them and their masks vs china. I can imagine lorenzana wearing the mask of duterte, anyo and esperon as well, to protect themselves each time they passed by the buzzing chinese towers.

                yay! I’m going to order a mask too, most likely with bright red lipstick, my fav shade. mask of duterte in lipstick, lol! I dont like the droopy eyes though, so I think, I’ll personalized mine with inch long artificial eyelashes.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Cheerio kasambahay!

              • kasambahay says:

                our power grid chinese owned na . . soon beijing will be deciding when and when not we can use electricity and how much we can use, what time of the day may brown outs tayo, as well as how much more we have to pay for electricity. and if china aligned our electricity usage with their time zone, easier for them to monitor and manage our grid, we could well be inconvenient but we dont have much say.

                I’m pretty sure someone is uber happy! one less problem, hard decision taken from him, no more brown outs to worry about, no more lack of supply to ponder. now he spend more time visiting abu sayaff casualties and joking with soldiers, visiting funeral wakes and be seen among the mourners, as well as giving medal of sikatuna to foreigners who has invaded our country and stolen our territory. yay!

              • sonny says:

                Seems like THE BORG blueprint is operational. WHO are at the controls, is the question. WHAT subsystem of the blueprint are they running, is another. Are they running a HEURISTIC operating system? The I/O devices are amoral, for sure! So far, the results are GIGO. The design architecture has a PONZI schematic.

              • kasambahay says:

                sonny, I’ll leave it to tanod karlg to find/post panibagong link as regards our power grid 40% franchise sold to china. the one I’ve read in abs-cbnnews online is not very good for china. apparently the chinese breached franchise contract, changed the language of our operational system into chinese language thus allowing chinese nationals to operate our system. contract says kuno the chinese can only offer technical support and only when asked, and not dip their hands or meddle manually into the day to day operation of the grid.

                sen gatchalian is medyo I dont know, regretful? dahil if chinese grid franchise is revoked, baka foreign investors kuno will balk at investing in our country. I think, sen gatchalian ought to reinforce and reiterate that investors, foreign or not, should first and foremost follow the wording to the contract, and not make changes to the contract behind our back.

                for sure our country welcomes honest and honorable investors. dishonorable and dastardly investors especially those that have no respect for contract are given the big boot, lol!

              • kasambahay says:

                I forgot to mention that the chinese can now remotely access our grid, they can be sipping tea in beijing or eating lumpia in shangai and at the same time, play football with our grid, lol!

                the chinese has made our power grid vulnerable to cyber attack, all the more reason for senate to revoke chinese franchise, methink.

              • sonny says:

                Ksm-bahay, am a throwback to legacy systems, no expertise beyond IBM midrange to IBM-mainframe, e.g. banking software.

              • kasambahay says:

                congratulations, sonny. you have reached platinum! duterte likes to appoint people like you to top jobs, lol!

              • sonny says:

                ??? you know something I don’t, ksm-bahay. I don’t know to thank you or not.

              • kasambahay says:

                very sorry po, sonny. pls ignore me. suntory in the morning on empty stomach is not good, made me ugly pythia. sees things I should not have seen, hear thoughts I should not have heard . . . sorry.

                nothing to be concern about, it’s just the ugly pythia me blabbing. no cause for alarm po.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Sonny, Inthought you said Gago, but it is true they are all garbage.
                GIGO

                Meanwhile I think DND AFP will no longer proceed with the tower near the camps.
                Methinks they will privatize it first so BCDA will work double time.

                I was told that the Army got hoodwinked short handed in the deal with SM and the BCDA.
                It is almost impossible that the Cayetano’s did not get a cent in those Ft, Bonifacio deals.

                SM and Metro Pacific is taking over the undeveloped areas in addition to the Century pacific Sensye Building project.

                So hold that tower near the camps and wait for its privatization. ( Gash)
                Soon no more military bases all will be leased by the developers if the land banking continues.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Senate building project.

              • karlgarcia says:

                I think this is what my dad read or was told about.
                Damn!

              • kasambahay says:

                aha, maybe that is why marawi city is unti-unti being gobbled up by the military. the maranoans kasi barely have torrens title to show ownership of their lands. most of them passed on lands from gen to gen without the much needed paperwork. halos walang trust in the system kasi sila. maybe they dont want to pay land tax year after year?

                and now, without documentary evidence, hard pressed silang maranoans to prove ownership, and the military is showing unhealthy interest in their lands.

                military bases in luzon to be privatized? no worries, the military will move their bases to marawi is what I think. ha, ha.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Kasambahay,
                Sonny and I have military roots FYI.
                His dad,uncles, nephews, brothers,cousins are to borrow from the Marines, the few and the proud.
                I am proud of my father and his idealism,and activisms.(in his own way)
                He is from Mulanay Quezon which was a leftist area before so it took a while for him to comeback there.
                Just telling you that even if I share my views with you about the military, may kaunting aray pa din, but you already told me where you are coming from, so we carry on.

              • karlgarcia says:

                @kasambahay
                Re: Mask of Duterte

              • kasambahay says:

                mask, pls google duterte halloween mask. I saw some halloween revelers wearing those mask and I had wanted one too. panelo had said pangontra kuno yang duterte mask vs evil. not that I believe what panelo said, but I want a trophy.

                I did not get the mask though. I have already been a pain in the you know what and I cannot ‘sammat’ go lower. just cannot.

              • kasambahay says:

                open secret po yan, the best and brightest kasi talk plenty in their sleep, ha, ha. power grid gone to china with their blessing. supposed to make life easier, no longer will they be bothered with browns outs, the chinese will take care of the lot kuno, maintenance and all.

                may reservations yong iba. aside from cyber attack, ransomware is worrisome. what if the chinese refused to maintain the grid unless paid a hefty amount? what if the chinese sell our grid to a more ruthless 3rd party yet again? ah, no longer problem ang mga yan ng mga best and brightest, they have already taken themselves out of the equation.

                who is going to stop the chinese from using our power pre-charging the millions of batteries used in electric cars sold worldwide? already, the chinese are mining cobalt sa recto bank – methink! impt component yang cobalt sa electric car batteries. recto bank’s joint exploration says 60-40 gas and oil. but if cobalt is mined, china got 100% share.

                I really should stop drinking suntory, makes my mind goes wonky, lol!

                and thanks for the links.

              • sonny says:

                #Mulanay:
                Karl, how far are you from the isthmus of Quezon?

                #grids:
                I should reconnect w/acquaintances at CONED, NYC & People’s Gas, Chicago.

                #suntory:
                Am partial to Michelob Ultra, myself, & margaritas. 🙂 & yesterday’s IBM/Univac/Cray computers

              • Sonny, I recall someone from Unisys (the company that took over Univac, Burroughs and a number of other veteran computer firms) telling me that many people have no idea what measures of reliability really mean. The example he gave, relevant as Unisys still supplies a lot of the high-availability systems for air traffic control, was that 99% availability in an air traffic control computer means it still might be down for 3 1/2 days a year – unacceptable. Even 99.99% is still eight hours or 1/3 of a day, and what if that day is Christmas Eve?

                Every airport has drills with pen, paper and good old radio, Pearl Harbour era methods as manual fallback, but you can imagine how the airport capacity goes down with that. Well I guess if you let un-drilled Cayetano volunteers take over, OK that was not a nice thought.,

                Filipino pilots BTW have an excellent reputation, someone said on Twitter recently. Good to know in the light of the unprofessionalism of the present SEA games. Makes one long back, almost, to the Marcos technocrats, even if they used pomade, maybe Tancho even.

              • sonny says:

                #Unisys … & reliability in ATC
                PiE, by the time Unisys came into being (1986), I was quite entrenched into banking and trust programs in IBM 360/370/S36 systems. I transitioned from computer manufacturing (printed circuits fab (Univac 1100s, on-board computers of US Navy & Air Force).into computer programming up to Y2K code corrections.

                Here’s example of terra incognita, about Unisys & Air Traffic Control (ATC). Try it for size.

                https://mansfield-devine.com/speculatrix/2017/03/from-the-archives-computers-in-air-traffic-control/

          • kasambahay says:

            my understanding is that leni is asking for baseline data, not just listahan. kung walang baseline data, e anong klaseng drug war yan? the fear of providing baseline data, datos of the before and after, the relevant figures and graphs, etc. essential talaga yang baseline data sa good housekeeping, ask the house, ask kamara. all eyes on baseline data: how much has been added to the previous, how much has been lost o misappropriated, how much adjustment to make.

            baseline data is the measurement where all other measurements are pitted against. the standard where all other standards are compared to. that’s how we know our progress or lack of.

            data ng build build build project ay 75projected, to date, only 9 projects are started. god knows when is the completion of said projects, maybe started lang and ending is infinite. barely anyone’s checking, all secret, lol! abandoned project, not unheard yan. look at marawi city.

            why are the gang afraid to provide leni with baseline data? with all that money spent on drug war, you would think their data collected is 1st class and can stand up to scrutiny anytime, anytime.

            no baseline data? no initial data collected, nothing added, nothing gained, so no conclusion reached. words are not enough, we need proof and baseline data, the beginning data, is good place to start.

            • kasambahay says:

              ahem, fellow kasambahay from hongkong told me that in case of invasion, the chinese will most likely jam all communications inside military camps, no messages can get in, no messages can get out, and our soldiers will be just sitting ducks, easy to round up and disposed of and made into vitsin, lol!

            • sonny says:

              Agreed, k-bahay.

              Any project/solution must have ‘initial conditions,’ and everyone must be on that same starting page.

            • She is absolutely starting right and the fact there is no data is meaningful in itself.

              • kasambahay says:

                back to the head, that’s how it looks to me. the gang cant really share significant drug data or drug info with leni dahil they’re protecting drug lords, lol! must not bring attention to drug lords. must not reveal who they are, nunca!

                it’s not that leni cannot keep secret. it may well be that drug lords have specifically asked they be kept anonymous, unseen and unnoticed, their whereabouts unknown to leni.

                and naturally, the gang complied. ginawang private and confidential ang status ng mga drug lords. bawal.

            • karlgarcia says:

              No data, no information, no knowledge, no intelligence.

              • kasambahay says:

                ahem, apparently duterte must be disappointed, he cannot sampal and sampal again the illustrious one and only mr phelim kine, lol! deprived of the great opportunity si duterte to maybe rip mr kine’s face apart. cannot help it, karlg, taliwas ang isip ko. grew up malnourished kasi ako at badly educated pa.

                so, no information, but plenty fake news and misinformation. for failure to sampal mr kine with force equivalent to 8 on the fichter scale, duterte has foreign sec locsin to plenty blame. had kine been allowed entry, I can only imagine the almighty banggaan between duterte and kine, lol! harap-harapan, measuring each other. I was hoping duterte will not become a fan of kine, they seemed to have the same bad mouth, lol!

              • Kine seems like a loose cannon to me. I think the VP should stay way clear of him.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Kine is the excusee for not trusting Leni

        • sonny says:

          Karl, such colorful language! 🙂 Save some for Sen Sotto, too.

          • karlgarcia says:

            Ignoramus Sotto Copyus

          • karlgarcia says:

            He is also included in my ass to the power of two(latin translations)list’

          • karlgarcia says:

            My dad dinged me for that colorful language. He told me to be careful, oh well.

            • karlgarcia says:

              That is why avoid posting political posts in FB, my dad can see it instantly.
              I hope he never reads Twitter because I am quite unleashed nowadays.

              • kasambahay says:

                sotto in situ, dont really know what that meant, but. worried ako about asin tax that sotto et al could well turn into law. asin tax, porbida, keso de bola is salty and my fav cheese havarti is salty, as well as bacon, ham, itlog na maalat, patis, soy sauce, beef and black bean, etc. and I’m not forgetting salty cocktail drinks. margarita without the salt is unthinkable, bars without salted peanuts served on platters, unthinkable as well!

                it’s not just daing that is salty. asin tax is not just tax for the poor; so depressing! this asin tax is affecting one and all. seeing sotto and his maasim face gives me alta presyon, even blood is salty, sweat is salty, tears are salty, maybe sotto et al will tax them too.

                too much asin is bad for health, bad for the heart kuno, gives one high blood pressure too.

                tax the manufacturers of salty foods, dont tax consumers.

                ps, the body needs salt (sodium) in order to function normally. the recommended daily requirement allowance for adults is between 1500mg – 2500mg of salt o sodium, methink.

                asin tax, I’ll cry a river. it’s not that we eat salty foods everyday, but when we do, we shall be taxed.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Yes it is salt it is asin. that is not a syntax error.
                You say you were not educated well when you were young, by the the way you write now, it means that it is never too late to learn and to teach yourself because as we live, we learn.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Sotto in su. From below to above.
                Thank you internet gods.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Prohibition only led to the likes of Al Capone vs Elliot Ness or cat and mouse, hyena and lion, gazelle and lion, mongoose vs cobra, Python vs cobra and history never stops teaching because we keep on learning until we get it.

              • I’ve noticed you are arming up the opinions. I do a mental fist pump.

              • karlgarcia says:

                the icon looks like a dds salute. so right back at you.

  3. Isabel Reyes says:

    Happy to see the Comments section open again Joe. Tho I don’t engage in the conversation, I love reading the high quality “rich comments” from your intelligent commenters. Honestly, I don’t mind those smarty-pants know-it-all wise guys either, no matter how annoying they are sometimes. They can be so amusing too or perhaps, like little kids, they NEED it. At any rate, I want you to know that for all you do and for who you are, we will be forever grateful.Thanks so much.

    • The editorial policy of the blog is clear. Conspiracy theories are not helpful, playing devils advocate is not helpful, sharing information and ideas earnestly is helpful. Our world of information is polluted. My goal is not to add to the polluted waters, but extract insights from factual information and people’s real-life experiences.

  4. karlgarcia says:

    First, I am very glad that you people can comment for this particular post. Hopefully we all behave and the comment section will remain open.
    I agree.
    We should not tell the VP what to do and second guess what she is capable of.

  5. NHerrera says:

    Like the others, I thank you for re-opening the comments section of the blog. With a gem of a topic appropriately worded in a bite size article. And re-emphasizing the rules on the commentary — just like the title of the current blog a re-learning, in fact, in my opinion, a re-re-learning of what makes for a helpful country-wide exchange or conversation in and outside the blog.

    The blog as in many instances in the past used a great word to punctuate the article; this time the word: discretion. Your note on Philem Kine and Sec Locsin bring the message home very well.

    The current topic also used the phrase get a grip on being a good follower. I agree. I would like to add: get a grip on being a good foe. Whether meant for Pres Duterte or for VP Robredo, what we need now is to be a good follower or foe.

    Lastly, VP Robredo demonstrated yet again on this anti-drug matter that she, along with her advisers, have top notch minds. It is easy enough to rant. We don’t need more of those.

    • Great highlighting of the important points, with the addition of being a good foe. My own ‘foe’ work is in defense of Robredo against troublemakers like Go, Dela Rosa, and Cayetano, and commenting on other Admin failings, like building infrastructure, etc. No shortage of those.

  6. karlgarcia says:

    Will the Acting Top cop support the VP or not?
    _____
    Gamboa said he has some things to say to Robredo during their meeting with the law enforcement cluster set on Thursday. He also pointed out that the Philippines already has an anti-drug strategy that is being implemented since October 2018.

    GMA News: Robredo, US officials discuss PHL drug problem.
    https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/715289/robredo-us-officials-discuss-phl-drug-problem/story/

    • karlgarcia says:

      Finally, you agree that the drug war needs tweaking.

      GMA News: No scrapping of Oplan Tokhang, only ‘retooling’ —PNP OIC.
      https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/715451/no-scrapping-of-oplan-tokhang-only-retooling-pnp-oic/story/

      • What has become clear is that absolutely no effort has been put into arresting big drug lords. None whatsoever. Today, they came to the startling conclusion that they need to focus a part of their effort on the bigs. Geniuses. I think they make so much money on small timers, with cash incentives, that they do what pays. Going after bigs is hard and dangerous. But now someone is watching.

        • karlgarcia says:

          The world has been watching, Now, the US found a hospitable and welcoming host willing to listen to them on what they can do to help.
          And yes, even if they deny it,
          they never expected VP Leni would bite. (offer of czarina)

          • kasambahay says:

            begging your pardon po, I think, vp got pushed. too many mothers crying, too many wives crying, too many children crying, all mourning the loss of loved one, gone too soon, shot. hard to turn her back on all that crying, all that miseries. she did at first, gotta save herself. no one will. saw a trap at 1st, she did; then opportunity, risky but.

            everything in life is risky, even eating humble ginamos (bagoong) is risky now, the damn thing will soon attract asin tax! where am I, santa! mind telling moi where I am?

            ah, yes, vp leni, my vp, so brave, was told to watch her back. kami, we all watch her back. her back is our back, her failure or success is ours.

            now, I’m in leni’s army, and I’ll follow, lead and I’ll follow!

          • I was surprised at how quickly the US was able to put together a briefing team. And how quickly the VP moved on it. Impressive, both sides.

  7. distant observer says:

    Glad you’re still writing. Glad you opened the comments section for this one.
    Mabuhay!

  8. sonny says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-duterte-vp-keep-state-072921899.html

    “Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte threatened to remove the vice president from her “drugs tsar” post if she shared state secrets with foreign individuals and entities.”

    • karlgarcia says:

      Her retort.

      Robredo to admin: We can be transparent without divulging sensitive info

      Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1190821/robredo-assures-admin-theres-a-line-between-transparency-and-confidential-data#ixzz65YZwRlZL
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      • sonny says:

        Thanks for the link, Karl. Very important to know. Saved me important ‘search time.’ You the tanod-man (guardian).

        It is important for Admin & VP agencies to be non-adversarial, i.e. solutions & resources, are additive and synergistic.

        • karlgarcia says:

          I was doing my librarian duties that time.(joke)
          It is important, that should always be the case,but often times it remains just ideal
          Hey unc, How are you and the misis health wise?
          Every time we email that always comes up(health talk)
          I hope everything is ok now with you.

          • kasambahay says:

            thanks for the link, karlg. sorry at tataliwas na naman ang isip ko. sharing of state info, intel and whatnots, is that not what duterte has signed sa asean summits? delegates promised cooperation and sharing of sensitive info as regards curving illegal activities, be they drugs or terrorism related. havent we been alerted by foreign countries that sizeable shipment of illegal drugs have entered our shore and for our customs to be on the lookout? kaso, customs sat on the info, acted too late at pinalusot ang shipment. interpol is doing the same, they’re on the lookout for anything untoward beyond the borders.

            foreign sec locsin can remind duterte about our obligations as regards sharing of sensitive state info, country to country and state to state. if only locsin is not busy calling moron the man in white moumou. anyhow, there are plenty men in white moumou in saudi, the king wears white moumou as well as the crown prince. men of influence wear white moumou over there, and not just in our country.

              • karlgarcia says:

                During the Malacañang press briefing Monday, April 22, Presidential Spokesperson Salvador Panelo said: “Iyan ang tinatawag na (That’s what you call) sharing of intelligence information. That’s standard for all countries, they share intelligence information. If it affects the security of a particular country, talagang (really) they share information.

              • kasambahay says:

                sharing of intelligence info sans intelligence. I remember seeing ellen tordesillas’ name sa matrix, the long dead included sa matrix. crude and poorly constructed, what a waste of good cartolina the matrix. cannot stand up to scrutiny, bad like the 9 dash line and ridiculed.

                good intel goes through the rigors, can stand up to scrutiny and come from trusted sources: proper channel. cost money too, surveillance is time consuming. informants need to be fed, housed and equip with modern gizmos. there are times when informants work in teams and need to move fast, and that means travel and more expenses.

                true, standard yan for all countries to share intelligence, whereas making erratic matrix is not standard.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Nice inputs from you.

              • sonny says:

                Spokesperson reminds me of the saying: Keep your friends close to you and your enemies closer.

              • karlgarcia says:

                too close for comfort better be near yet so far.

              • sonny says:

                Yes, he surely knows which side he likes his butter on.

          • sonny says:

            🙂
            My tocayo, the guru is gone. So, I still got you (guardian & librarian), PiE (the flywheel), NH (our numbers man), & JA (aka Simon Templar). All bases covered.

            • karlgarcia says:

              Not known to many that edgar is your tocayo.
              Kaya pala ang lakas ng bond nyo.

              • karlgarcia says:

                My dad wants him to be called Eddie or Ed.
                Even if there is already an Eddie Garcia the actor(bless his soul)

            • karlgarcia says:

              Agree with all bases covered but the guru is like a one man all encompassing ala Ralph Waldo Emerson and his fellows.
              I am an aspiring wannabe.

              how is that for redundancy?

              • sonny says:

                RW Emerson, impressive choice, Karl. Certainly along the guru’s line. WC Bryant and HW Longfellow were easier on my memory cells and soul.

              • NHerrera says:

                Oh yes, H W Longfellow. You will understand why as a father and as a grandfather, this poem touches me greatly every time I read it.

                THE CHILDREN’S HOUR

                Between the dark and the daylight,
                When the night is beginning to lower,
                Comes a pause in the day’s occupations,
                That is known as the Children’s Hour.

                I hear in the chamber above me
                The patter of little feet,
                The sound of a door that is opened,
                And voices soft and sweet.

                From my study I see in the lamplight,
                Descending the broad hall stair,
                Grave Alice, and laughing Allegra,
                And Edith with golden hair.

                A whisper, and then a silence:
                Yet I know by their merry eyes
                They are plotting and planning together
                To take me by surprise.

                A sudden rush from the stairway,
                A sudden raid from the hall!
                By three doors left unguarded
                They enter my castle wall!

                They climb up into my turret
                O’er the arms and back of my chair;
                If I try to escape, they surround me;
                They seem to be everywhere.

                They almost devour me with kisses,
                Their arms about me entwine,
                Till I think of the Bishop of Bingen
                In his Mouse-Tower on the Rhine!

                Do you think, o blue-eyed banditti,
                Because you have scaled the wall,
                Such an old mustache as I am
                Is not a match for you all!

                I have you fast in my fortress,
                And will not let you depart,
                But put you down into the dungeon
                In the round-tower of my heart.

                And there will I keep you forever,
                Yes, forever and a day,
                Till the walls shall crumble to ruin,
                And moulder in dust away!

              • karlgarcia says:

                Transcendental club is the name of their version of TSOH.

              • NHerrera says:

                On the use of transcendental about TSH: it does have a wide range. My inner feelings being touched by H W Longfellow’s “The Children’s Hour” everytime I read the poem may be described as transcendental.

              • karlgarcia says:

                Yeah Alice, Allegra, and Edith attacked their grand pa from all corners.😉
                Very nice poem,NH thanks for sharing. My dad has only one grandson but he is enough to make his day when he was younger,and I hope until now even in his teens. (He will turn 13 in a few weeks)

                RW Emerson and his peers, we are not but we can give them a brain storming with our key boards if they are alive today.

              • Joe Jr. says ‘happy birthday’ to the General’s grandson. 🙂

              • karlgarcia says:

                Will tell him Joe

              • karlgarcia says:

                😊

            • NHerrera says:

              Sonny tickled me to writing this:

              edgar, God bless his soul, undoubtedly worked hard and comprehensively on almost all his TSH posts. But this is my equation (sonny writes I am a numbers man):

              Karl, Francis, Micha, Sonny, Irineo, NH, Joeam and others admired for their notes in TSH is greater than or equals [> =] edgar

          • sonny says:

            Karl, thank you for asking. We’re in a clearing, for now.

  9. popoy says:

    Apologies for this outer TSoH space cosmic comment;

    THE TRUTH SHALL MAGA

    It shall come to pass Trump’s impeachment
    May not unearth the truth.
    Regardless of its results: stay or removal
    Of Trump from world’s most exulted office
    Press Freedom and US Congressional inquiry
    May or might not create a truth
    From a dubious or TRUE truth.

    After the impeachment verdict is done
    When impeachment waves had calmed
    Like the surface of Atlantic and Pacific Oceans
    Smooth and shiny like spilled crude oil
    Ukraine’s Zelensky might order the investigation
    Regardless of the results again
    USA again thru its American electors
    Shall issue their own truth to elect
    Trump or possibly another to be
    President of the United States in 2020.
    A B A N G A N.

  10. NHerrera says:

    BIG PICTURE: A COMPARISON

    VP Robredo on anti-drug efforts and associated investigation cunumdrum in a Philippine Version of “Democracy.” Compare that with Trump and the Impeachment Inquiry conumdrum in a US Version of “Democracy.”

    The note above is a result of my hangover because of several sleepless nights following the made-for-TV US President Impeachment Inquiry. That is why I am a convert to the growing Flat-Earth-Cult if only so there is no Manila date-time, no US ET date-time, etc — only one earth date-time.

    • sonny says:

      🙂
      Luv the complaint, NH. I once saw a graphic of what a flat earth would look. Will share if I find it. This riddle is like how the 7 days of creation is reconciled with today’s science & time. I wonder if Trump’s situation can be also played out in the PH of Duterte.

      • sonny says:

        NH, it just occurred to me that Democracy (PH version) does not have a governance superstructure that should be populated by appropriate institutions. Democracy (US version) has such a governance superstructure and now is managing the institutions it has created and populated. This is my takeaway while watching the current impeachment proceedings. Is this observation accurate?

      • popoy says:

        If I may conjecture, Philippines’ ideology of governance is unique and probably the world’s one and only kind of authoritarianism, a benevolent kind of DICTATORSHIP BY CORRUPTION. It is freaky and a freak kind of sheepish people’s power. It is pernicious poverty of and for the people.

        • sonny says:

          #ideology of governance is unique
          #the world’s one and only kind of authoritarianism
          #benevolent … DICTATORSHIP BY CORRUPTION
          #freaky, … sheepish people’s power
          #pernicious poverty of and for the people

          Popoy, your description conjures up images spiked with nostalgic aches from childhood spent walking along the beaches of my Ilocos home town: pristine geographic landscape, a confluence of two rivers (Amburayan long & Paratong short) coming from two sources up in the downslopes of the Cordilleras, emptying and depositing into the South China Sea; creating a delta mix of organic & inorganic payload collected along the downstream riverine paths. Imagine a large patch of water of estuarial consistency, an ecosystem created and maintained by the push of Luzon wet and dry seasons, in turn sustaining municipal subsistence economies of Luna (Luna brothers), Bangar, Balaoan (Osias), Tagudin (Manglapus), Sudipen towns. I leave the extrapolations into political permutations to a Filipino’s logic and sense of history.

          • sonny says:

            This scene is paradigmatic in the Ilocano experience of thrift and industry. This created an almost genetic drive to migrate to better environs and to consequent adaptability to alien circumstances. Alas, this also led to cupidity in some in the face of division and adversity.

            • sonny says:

              These Ilocano circumstances best explain their historical clustered presence in Hawaii, California (San Joaquin Valley), the Pacific northwest, Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao.

          • sonny says:

            http://amburayanriverbasin.emb.gov.ph/measuring-the-amburayan-river/

            “The Amburayan River spans the Phillippine provinces of Benguet, Ilocos Sur and La Union. The river traverses the municipalities of Atok, Tublay, Bakun, Buguias, Kapangan & Kibungan of Benguet, Santol, Bangar & Sudipen of La Union and Sugpon, Alilem & Tagudin of Ilocos Sur. It supports agriculture, provides domestic water, and is used for recreational purposes. The river generates hydro-electic power and is a site for sand and gravel extraction in some municipalities.”

      • NHerrera says:

        Thanks, sonny, for the link. I take my wish back. You just converted me back to a believer in the round-earth theory. I can endure the consequence of different date-time zones than the consequences of the different gravity posed by the flat-earth theory as shown effectively by the link. I should have used my integral calculus to calculate this different gravity consequence. Hurray for elementary physics and integral calculus.

        And I call myself a mathematician. Joeam will now consider taking back the title he awarded me. 🙂

        • No, no. A title is durable, it rides through the thick and thin of battle. I can no longer do calculus, myself, and even find it difficult to spell.

        • popoy says:

          IF I, a math and physics dumbo, may contribute my dumbness.
          In long and wide deserts, in flat highways, in stormy seas
          and endless oceans the horizon is always 14 kilometers
          where objects like ships and cars start to fade
          and disappear to the naked eye.

          This dumbo then start to believe IT is GOD’s will and way
          for convenience and whatever to make homo sapiens
          travel the earth globe in a flat surface
          after every 14 kilometers.

          • kasambahay says:

            ola! you sure there are no sinkholes every 14kms that make things disappear? in florida, the sinkhole capital of estados unidos, a swamp disappear, there one minute, gone the next. in china, day trippers recently found a colony of sinkholes, deep ones too, presumably them sinkholes been there for ages, some already got vegetation growing.

            • kasambahay says:

              anyhow, there a son of god in mindanaw who can stop earthquakes kuno. almighty son of god from mindanaw and close friend of best and brightest duterte, why in the dirigibles did you not tell building to stop falling down as well? or tell them highlands to stop sliding down the slopes and killing people along the way? son of god from mindanaw, please tell those that died sa earthquake to get up and go and cook delicious dinner. why stop at stopping earthquakes when you can do a lot more, son of god from mindanaw? stop the flood! stop dengue! stop polio! oh, mighty son of god from mindanaw!

            • popoy says:

              Thanks for the comment Kasambahay. Sink holes don’t make the earth flat or globular. Sinkholes COULD BE aberrations or remedies of nature to maintain balance of life on earth. The Taal Lake and Laguna de Bay as craters of volcanoes of prehistoric time of the Pacific Ring of Fire may have proactive purposes. There will always be local Charlatans of hard times.

            • karlgarcia says:

              Sinkholes you say, it might start from a small hole like a rabbit hole.
              Reminds me of Alice in wonderland and the Matrix.

              MORPHEUS
              ​I imagine, right now, you must be feeling a bit like Alice, tumbling​down the rabbit hole?

              ​NEO
              ​You could say that.

              ​MORPHEUS
              ​I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because
              he is expecting to wake up.

          • karlgarcia says:

            Leave the math to NH, popoy.
            In our transcendental club here, you are our Robert Frost.
            Sonny mentioned in the clearing, when I asked about him and the wife.

            In the Clearing is a 1962 poetry collection by Robert Frost. It contains the poem “For John F. Kennedy His Inauguration”, much of which Frost had composed to be read at President Kennedy’s inauguration but which he did not read. The book is also known for “Kitty Hawk”, the book’s longest poem, which muses on the Wright Brothers’ accomplishment in manned flight.

            • sonny says:

              I’m learning a lot, Neph. 🙂 Don’t stop. My 3rd Yr English class assignment in HS; i studied rote. It’s better this time.

              • karlgarcia says:

                As you know Unc, I am just about the age of your kids so I also studied rote. Heck, the present system is still rote, methinks.

              • karlgarcia says:

                As you know Unc, I am just about the age of your kids so I also studied rote. Heck, the present system is still rote, methinks.

              • karlgarcia says:

                No duplicate comment warning this time.
                Sorry.

                Back to what we are talking about. I owe it to google to augment my memory.

              • sonny says:

                Believe it or not Neph, I’m using items of my memories of school to keep away from the dreaded Alzheimer’s syndrome. I do not resist to sit and type away and look for answers to questions acquired from high school and early college. My sessions at the internet are rather arcane by your generations’ standards. So the TSH is good for me, even just lurking when the topics are beyond my knowledge/experience, just like the bar in CHEERS. 🙂 Definitely good to one’s sanity.

              • sonny says:

                Big PS, Karl: I hope I’m good for TSH as well. 🙂

              • karlgarcia says:

                Where everybody knows your name. You play Ted Danson, I ‘ ll play Woody Harrelson

              • karlgarcia says:

                You are more than good enough Unc, you could match NH is Science and Math.
                You are well rounded.No need to say more.

              • sonny says:

                Thank you, Neph. 🙂 But given my age, I react more like Coach and I like your choice of Woody. So, Sam is JoeAm and he does own and runs Cheers. NH can do Norm, I’ll double as Clive the mailman.

                I will take MENDING WALL (Frost) as a running background of Joe’s blog.

                I super like your tweets. (my first visit) 🙂

              • karlgarcia says:

                Frazer maybe popoy.

    • sonny says:

      #conundrums

      NH, Karl, wrap your minds around this article and tell me any sense that comes/jumps at you that can be brought up and talked about, i.e. why truth, any truth is necessarily convergent and can lead to destruction or construction:

      https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/what-does-quantum-theory-actually-tell-us-about-reality/

      • NHerrera says:

        Interesting idea.

        Measurement on a photographic plate behind two slits, through which microscopic or atomic/ sub-atomic particles or photons are beamed, shows areas or patches of light and darkness. This phenomenon may be explained by Quantum Mechanics which says that in the domain of microscopic particles, they are wave functions which as waves constructively [light] and destructively [darkness] superimpose or interfere as seen on the photographic plate.

        This phenomenon seem to parallel the interesting concept of the constructive convergence of truth, on the one hand, and its destructive convergence [un-truth] on the other hand.

        In the US, the Impeachment Inquiry on President Trump displays the constructive convergence of truth, and its counterpart — the destructive convergence, un-truth, peddled by Trump and Trump-fearing Republicans.

        In the South China Sea, there is the convergence of truth from the research, facts and analysis/ arguments used by the UN body to rule, essentially debunking the un-truth peddled by China on the so-called Nine-Dash line.

        • NHerrera says:

          Let me supplement my note above with the following.

          In the case of the Impeachment Inquiry the “particle” going through the slits is the Whistle Blower Complaint. That of the UN body ruling on the South China Sea, the PH Complaint to that world body.

          No Physics or Mathematics here, Sonny and Karl — just my imagination. My idol Albert Einstein, I believe said, Imagination is more important than Knowledge. 🙂

  11. karlgarcia says:

    All cooks get hurt by boiling cooking oil, sweat in their eyes, etc for 18 hours a day, but they stay in the kitchen.

    Leni will make a good cook, if she is not one.

    https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1193432/gutierrez-refutes-malacanang-vp-lives-in-the-heat-of-the-kitchen

    • I like the way VP Robredo gives Atty Guitierrez lots of room to speak. He’s excellent. One gets the idea he likes punching back.

      • kasambahay says:

        oh, I love kitchens. kitchen ng bayan is world class, lol! if panelo wants leni out of the hot kitchen, he will just have to drag leni out. she’s not budging.

        heat in the kitchen, what heat po? panelo has yet to update. we now have fire extinguishers and heat extractor fans in kitchens. plus may thermostat ang fridges, there are foodders that must be kept under 4 degree celcius. we have ice in kitchens too, oysters must be kept in bed of ice to keep them fresher longer. panelo is so ignoramus, his knowledge of kitchen probly fits in a grain of tarrification rice, lol!

        similarly, radiators get hot too and blew up sometimes but that does not deter us from driving motor vehicles.

        heat in the kitchen, hot stoves and hot ovens need to be hot to very hot, how else are they supposed to cook food? and we cook food everyday.

        get out of the hot kitchen, panelo!, if he can find the exit. he’s next to useless in there. bet, panelo does not know how to operate a coffee machine, or handle a sushi knife, a rice cooker?

        by the way, if chefs are hydrous (sweat/perspire too much) they probly have heart problems. I would not say that to their face though. chefs are temperamental, and I could be eating more than what I ordered, lol!

      • karlgarcia says:

        His counterpunches have been a long time coming.It is about time.

  12. popoy says:

    this really happened once upon a time
    in a place above down under when
    a UN kitchen Boss told a dishwasher
    get out if you cannot stand
    the heat in the kitchen and the Boss
    got a reply: I must stay Sir to remedy
    the unhealthy heat in the kitchen.

    And the kitchen help sang in chorus:
    Put him in the freezer or
    Fry him in the oven if the Chef
    is the one causing the heat
    in the unproductive kitchen.

    And so it came to pass
    the UN thermostat restored
    normal temperature
    in the kitchen.

  13. Isabel Reyes says:

    https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/24/19/duterte-sorry-to-robredo-for-believing-fake-news-that-she-invited-un-probers Well well well.. this makes me believe that one side effect of fentanyl is hallucinations.One minute sober, the next minute shocker. Or simply mentally ill.

  14. karlgarcia says:

    Duterte fired the VP……..

    • karlgarcia says:

      cnnphilippines just crashed because of their breaking news.

      • kasambahay says:

        I knew beforehand that duterte will get out the hot kitchen, lol! he blinked 1st and fired leni.

        the kitchen has gotten way too hot for him. he fire extinguisher-ed his own creation.

        • kasambahay says:

          gone hiding, gone on leave, gone fishing and duterte has defected to south korea, lol! to attend yet another conference. so many conferences he has attended only to sign yet another agreement on top of many other agreements. agreement on agreement. better that than face the heggledy-peggledy sea games, so disorganized, tupsy-turvy, easy-peasy, not. and there there is leni and her burgeoning fame.

          fear of success and duterte went back to square one, so familiar, so comfortable, so like home: the failed drug war and its remnants, the broken lives and the misery that drugs created.

          in south korea, they’ll ask him what is going on with the sea games. so much money spent on cauldron, athletes might as well make a beeline and throw themselves into the cauldron, bet the burning fire in the cauldron is fake, an illusion, ha, ha.

          and the food, athletes complaints of not having enough food, not enough water to drink, if they think that is tough, wait until brown outs blacken sporting arenas.

          but no worries, duterte has utter trust in cayetano and cayetano’s organisational skills.

          and duterte is in south korea cooling his burned offerings. nagpa-coolant, maybe doing some christmas shopping too.

          too much problems kasi at home, best to run away po and sibat to other countries.

        • karlgarcia says:

          Hehehe
          if Sonny is enjoying my posts somehow, I sure am enjoying yours.
          Keep em coming kasambahay.

  15. popoy says:

    Philippines Press is one of—
    if NOT THE FREEST
    in the whole world fully paid for
    by the blood of journalists and
    hardship of their surviving families.

    Press Freedom does not come Free.
    Nor is it cheap like in no other country.
    Finger pointing, raking over hell’s coals
    Or demonizing earth-bound demons
    Are not the way of all free press.
    It was the guillotine in olde France.
    But many more effective ways
    litter the trails of history.

    Free Press is never
    A pillar of democracy, it
    Is never democratic where
    Plunder and corruption are
    GENETICS to rulers and the ruled.

    HOW THEN should a Free Press
    Evaluate or assess the performance
    of an elected government?

    • popoy says:

      HOW THEN should a Free Press
      Evaluate or assess the performance
      of an elected government?

      Sherlock Holmes have an easy answer:
      “Very elementary my Dear Dr. Watson.”
      And Popoy can only guess imploring the help
      Of TSoH, Karlgarcia, NHerrera, Kasambahay,
      Sonny, distant observer, Will Villanueva, etc.
      Etcetera.
      A gov’t kitchen has one Chief Chef and
      Thirty or more SecChefs like in Defense,
      Finance, Foreign Problems, Health,
      Education, Labor, Justice, Social Welfare,
      Transportation, Public Works, etcetera.

      Take the glowing headlines of the Freest Press
      During the last few years; write them below
      The departments of SecChefs. Like in
      Agriculture: farmers should hang their heads
      In utter shame for accomplishing in no other
      Time in the past to be No. 1 importer of rice;
      For the health department because of medals
      Gained from Dengue, swine fever;

      Finger pointing, raking over hell’s coals
      Or demonizing earth-bound demons
      Are not the way of all free press.
      No need, Not at all when thievery
      Of taxpayers’ money and corruption
      Becomes part of elites’ genetics.

  16. karlgarcia says:

    https://opinion.inquirer.net/125455/its-lenis-war-now

    Joe,
    Remember, Abe Margallo who trolled us with his pro-Binay stance.
    Can’t blame him, Binay was his friend. I was genuinely disappointed during those days.

    Btw, the link above was written by him, reading his past few opinion articles, he makes sense once more.

  17. NHerrera says:

    A TRIUMPH FOR THE DEMOCRATIC ASPIRATIONS OF THE PEOPLE OF HONG KONG

    The recent display of a David taking on Goliath resulted in massive turnout in the recent District Council’s Election in Hong Kong. And the election of substantial pro-democracy candidates versus pro-Beijing candidates.

    One may be tempted to use the recent events in HK as a template for a country such as PH, but that may be wrong. In the case of HK, among others, the protesters were massive relative to the population, articulate, knowledgeable, committed, creative, and led by sizable proportion of the youth.

    [The future, though, remains uncertain.]

  18. karlgarcia says:

    According to the chair of the committe of dangerous drugs, Leni was fired due to nonperfornance. Say,whaaat?

  19. karlgarcia says:

    Now, this is moot, but allow me to share this.

  20. karlgarcia says:

    Many were suggesting for Leni to stay away from Ping, but at least he acknowledges and recognizes the capabilities of the VP.

    https://www.rappler.com/nation/245756-lacson-says-robredo-right-track-drug-czar

  21. popoy says:

    may be, just MAY BE, some snoozers fail to get it. Performance is measured by the number of murders of the poor and innocents. No murder equals zero performance.

    • karlgarcia says:

      Quizas, quizas, quizas

    • karlgarcia says:

      Mlq3 nailed it once more.
      With Go saying that no drug lord was killed in 18 days, that is proof that the policy is to kill kill

      https://opinion.inquirer.net/125511/dysfunctional-designation

      • Go and Sotto are becoming clowns. Sotto says host countries are supposed to hassle other nation’s athletes so their own can do better. What a set of values this Top Senator has.

        • karlgarcia says:

          What Go said about the drug war may be ammo for whomever will sue the president once he steps down.

          Tito Sotto experienced being an athlete as one of the country’s top bowlers, his out of pocket expenses stories may be true, even the exaggerated home court advantage of the host countries may have some truth to it.
          He also said that the critics may have a point. The rest of his pronouncements, sucked big time,I wish his relatives in government will be much better.

          • kasambahay says:

            porbida, just because the countries sotto went to were bad hosts, does not mean our country has to be bad host as well. rise above the occasion, show the world how it is done. our country volunteer to host sea games, wanting badly to attract cash up international investors, our shining fame for all to see, the superb vibes and excellent publicity our weapons to economic riches. so, wa’ happen? na-happened tayo, lol! naunahan ng kapalpakan and the whole world, what, laughing now? no better than all the rest we are, maybe worse. not good in organizing international event, our inexperience finger lickin’ glaring. so, alam pala ni sotto et al na athletes come early, so why sit and wait? dapat handa na tayo beforehand, efficient to the core. not running around like headless chickens. ugaling pinoy yan to leave all to the last minute, be it filing taxes, studying for exams, trips, etc.

            in a highly competitive market, often we only have one chance at pitching. one go at answering the one question that got ms phil the much coveted miss universe crown!

            damage control pahabol. so much effort spent on damage control. had the same effort been spent on preparation and preparation to make perfect, anticipating the needs of athletes, coaches, etc. there would have been no need for damage control. our heads held up high, proud of what we have achieved. not heads down tayo, shamed by kapalpakan.

            cayetano kasi spent so much time traveling overseas with duterte, travel after travel, time cayetano could have spent overseeing sea games preparation, cracking the whip, lol!

            cash up investors is what we are after, sea games is just prop. nightmarish prop badly put up. miss phil never wore rags to pageants, dress to kill siya. never show her bad side too. always the good side, for the crown! sea games organizers ought to take leaf from ms phil.

            • kasambahay says:

              anyhow, I cannot see how it is advantageous for our home athletes to see other athletes suffering. would be hard for our home athletes to do their best when they know their best have been boosted by foul tactic, their fellow athletes unfairly treated.

              anyhow again, our home athletes were also unfairly treated, kulang din po sila ng pagkain.

            • karlgarcia says:

              Hehe por vida por dies por ciento.

    • You read this as fakery? I didn’t know what to make of it. I don’t know the man at all. I thought all the drug people were stonewalling the VP.

      • karlgarcia says:

        Sincerity is a big bonus.

      • “Ninja cops” with dismissal order vs reassigning somewhere else is like Duterte’s handling of Faeldon and Lapena.

        Aaron Aquino’s integrity is a question mark for me.

        • Yes, I agree. You remind me not to be too quick to judge because I think people like Sec. Lorenzana are good people in a difficult job, trying to be loyal to the President and their oaths (Constitution). They’ll never be perfect for everyone in that squeeze.

          • kasambahay says:

            I’m sorry about this, joeam, tataliwas na naman ako. after three and a half yrs on the job as dnd chief, I think, I can safely say I can judge lorenzana full on. he has fallen into a rut! and dont you twist may arm, joeam. I’ve already been to crame. three days detained ako sharing a room with three others. and on the 4th day, I was supposed to meet a panel of humorless men. I had expected the worst but never got to meet the humorless berdugos. I waited hours sitting and waiting, got so bored that I got up and pick up rubbish and put the chairs in order. I heard shouting, a man saying who pick her up? another said, she’s an idiot! a louder voice said, the military is big enough, strong enough, powerful enough, it can take a punch on the chin!

            a man not in uniform, detective? got out and told me to pack up my things in 5 minutes and drove me to the exit. I still dont know what happen. may guardian angel yata ako.

            now back to lorenzana, uhm I forgot what to say, ah yeah, there comes a time in a man’s life when he needs to stand up! women? nah, we’re too busy choosing our designer gowns, matching shoes, bags and blings. that’s why, maybe, the women’s toilet at the athletes village were arranged like urinals, lol! side by side with no partition. apparently, women athletes when they pee, they drizzle.

            begging your pardon po, each time I look at lorenzana, I feel a drizzle coming on. so sorry, again, begging your pardon po.

            one day, I’m going to be good.

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