VP Inday Sara and the Jinn (or UFOs, the opposition’s new grand narrative)

Analysis and Opinion

By Lance Corporal X

Inday Sara, along with her friends Leni Robredo and Imee Marcos, have to win in 2025 and again in 2028. 

There’s a lot at stake here, for the Philippines, as well as the USA and China, including the whole world. But ultimately the thing being fought over is consciousness, and the very nature of reality. Who are your next bayanis, more OFWs and BPOs? No, your next heroes will be champions of the mind. Those who can traverse in the higher planes of existence. Do tambays and low flying doves have a place in this new world? Yes! D and E Filipinos are who they are looking for. Although who that “they” is I am still unsure. But if you’ve seen white ladies and aswangs, seen ghosts and santelmos, and talk to Mama Mary often, chances are you’re already traversing the higher planes. VP Inday Sara visited VP Leni during Our Lady of Peñafrancia fiesta (see “VP Leni and VP Sara for 2028“) because they both see PBBM going too far towards the American deep state. Because they know there’s a deeper state and an even deepest state. There is a good chance– though I don’t know this for sure– that Imee-Leni-Sara are being guided now by the Jinn. While PBBM is being guided by American finance and the aerospace industry.

The Jinn are mentioned in the Qur’an. But for the purposes of this blog, we just need to do some tafsir which is Arabic for exegesis meaning to interpret. The word for Jinn is rooted in the letters J-N-N. The underlying meaning is that which is hidden. So JaNuN is craziness, I guess where your mind goes when hidden. And heaven which is hidden from us is JiNNah. Surat al-Jinn says we humans are made from clay but the Jinn are made from fire. Specifically, from Nar (fire) Al-Samum. The root letters for Samum is S-M-M. Generally understood as intoxicant. But can also mean portal. There’s a whole bestiary of jinns, but we’ll just focus on fire and portal and what’s hidden. This realm has already been hinted at in an article written by the late Edgar Lores titled “The Akashic Records” (see “The Akashic Records“). The Jinn is plasma consciousness. The same stuff santelmos are made off, as well as foo fighters. Our Sun is plasma consciousness, so too the plasma clouds seen hovering over the Moon. And they have already revealed their intentions to Imee-Leni-Sara. And those three women are about to carry out the will of the Jinn. This is why:

The Jinn are conducting PSYOPS on humans in preparation for something. I still do not know what that something is. But to understand why Imee-Leni-Sara have to replace PBBM and the status quo of Philippine-American relationship, you have to understand the UFO recovery program. 

Here are 3 cases: The 1980 incident caused two women to suffer radiation poisoning after seeing a diamond shaped UFO hover in front of them on the road driving home. The witnesses stated the UFO was being chased by chinook helicopters. The women sued the government and their case was thrown out. Both the Army and Air Force internally investigated themselves and ruled they had no helicopters involved in the area. LCPL Weygandt, in the spring of 1997, was deployed in Peru for OPERATION LASER STRIKE. His squad was ordered to a crash site. Where he saw an egg-shaped UFO crash embedded into a cliff. He reported there were beings on board which communicated to him telepathically. Shortly after, personnel from DOE (US Dept. of Energy) showed up and arrested him. Then, on October 2009, LCPL Herrera as part of a humanitarian mission following a big earthquake in Indonesia, disembarks from USS Denver to secure a landing zone for offloading of aid. On the other side of the hill, his squad sees the top of a huge UFO. They go down to investigate and his squad is detained by Americans in black fatigues. He saw trucks hauling equipment and cargo into the UFO. Once loaded, the UFO floated atop the tree line and then zipped off into the Indian ocean. In the blink of an eye.

Fast forward to 2024

The two women Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum have since passed, Colby Landrum is still alive. Jonathan Weygandt, since his 2001 interview was released on social media, surfaced after a long absence just last year to do another interview on youtube, but has not added anything new. Though it seems he’s now open to testifying officially soon. In 2023, Michael Herrera testified to Congress and described said incident to the press. During that time while he was in DC, Herrera spoke to someone who explained the contents in those cargo containers that he saw were actually people. He would meet this person again, in a venue out west, which I assume to be California. This meeting, Herrera says, changed his whole worldview. He was told that the people in the cargo containers were in fact psychics. And that the technology they’ve reversed engineered from UFOs are operated using the mind. Although the psychic program started in North America, they have now expanded to the third world for recruitment. The majority of these psychics are women, but also left-handers and gays are disproportionately represented. What Herrera saw was a personnel evacuation from their Indonesian base of operation. Because this program spans the entire world.

So back to the Philippines

Like Mar Roxas with BPO, and whoever came up with OFW as means to float a dysfunctional nation, there might be opportunities here. The USA has outsourced psychics (presumably). A lot of Filipinos are already psychics, whether practicing or latent. Most will be D & E Filipinos. PROJECT STARGATE  boasted that their psychics performed better inside submarines somewhere in the deep, because it was “quiet”. The Jinn (or whatever this is) seem to be nudging us to be more psychic. We all need to start questioning the very nature of our reality soon. Our 5 senses are not enough. The Jinn or the Fire of Samum could very well be plasma. Scientists are now saying 99% of the universe is plasma. We’re surrounded by it. What if that’s the consciousness that made us. Injecting realities into our minds that in turn project material reality for our 5 senses to verify. Suggesting that everything our 5 senses create is in fact created in our minds first, like how wi-fi and cell towers allow me to see youtube videos and Google stuff. My mind projecting reality, ontology and epistemology, and theories of knowledge. That part I don’t know so much about. But I do get the feeling that the Jinn have a sense of humor. Because in these incidents of UFOs and aliens you read, there’s clearly humor. Laughing with us, and not at us, type of humor. You also see this same humor operating in the Imee-Leni-Sara team-up. Sonny Trillanes doesn’t get it. But it’s funny. I just hope the Jinn now guiding the women nudge them towards the psychic field of opportunity soon.

In conclusion, we have three different themes here. There’s us trying to divine what Imee-Leni-Sara (hopefully , Risa will join them soon) intend to do for the Philippines. Which I’ve linked to the Jinn , or simply plasma consciousness, that connects to a not so new reality really. One we’ve always been aware of, which we just now in the modern times chose to forget. Thirdly, I’ve tried to connect those two subjects to the current UFO discourse. That’s, as of 2024, USA’s new Disclosure laws. All three connect , the Philippines, this new reality and the process of disclosing said reality. Imee-Leni-Sara-(Risa) need a new grand narrative. One that’s still being cobbled together here in the USA, but something they can get ahead of and be at the forefront already. Simply change the word psychic to mystic, and Filipinos already are familiar with them. Psychics deal with other people’s minds, whereas mystics deal with God’s mind. Filipinos can be the world’s source of mystics, able to tap into the plasma consciousness that allows faster than light travel into the various dimensions. I am confident D & E Filipinos will be more than open to this, as well as C Filipinos. A & B will probably call this another Pulahanes millenarian movement. They maybe be right, but the USA is moving toward this direction. Within 3 years this is going to be our world. If Imee-Leni-Sara-(Risa) start rolling this new narrative out for the 2025 elections, by 2028 more Filipinos will be open to it. For example, Gilbert Teodoro (National Defense) and Christina Garcia Frasco (Tourism) can totally use UFOs to invite tourists to South China Sea. But for now focus on santelmos.

Appendix

I specifically used the Cash-Landrum 1980 incident, the Weygandt 1997 incident and the Herrera 2009 incident, because these 3 cases best interact with the current laws being developed by the USA Legislative branch. Sure you can say that these incidents never happened, and that’s that. But it’s more practical to apply these cases to current law. As part of the testimonies by whistleblowers and witnesses in 2023, the US Senate passed the Disclosure Act to be included in the 2024 NDAA. It was gutted in the House, specifically taking out provisions for a panel to oversee all this, then gutted all provisions that deal with UFO recovery and UFO eminent domain granting the Fed gov’t owneship of recovered UFOs and any reversed engineered crafts. But the archiving of these records due in October 20, 2024, and automatically making any records from 1945 to 1999 publically available, is a good start. Senators Schumer (Democrat) and Rounds (Republican) attempted again this year to add a more complete Disclosure Act for the 2025 NDAA, but that was shot down by Senator Rand Paul (Republican). Still, with the current laws in the books now , Colby Landrum maybe able to file a new lawsuit. For the Weygandt and Herrera incidents, both Marines might be able to get closure. Weygandt for example alleges health issues from the UFO contact. He’ll probably also be able to sue DOE for false imprisonment. For Herrera it would be wrongful confinement. But more importantly, and why Disclosure Act (hopefully next year’s complete version, for NDAA 2026) has to be passed and made to law, we need to know who owns those crafts and who the secretive paramilitary group in charge of UFO recovery work for?

Because this also connects to EDCA and WPS. 

In the Guidance to Federal Agencies on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection , there’s only three sections: 1841 setting up the archive; 1842 setting up the dates of records involved to be surrendered; 1843 giving lee way for postponement from the 20 Oct 2024 deadline.

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159 Responses to “VP Inday Sara and the Jinn (or UFOs, the opposition’s new grand narrative)”
  1. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    the above is the meat of the law (so far, but senators and congressfolk are still attempting to tack on more laws ), which is basically a search warrant. there’s update on the date now. recent development.

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      this first part establishes the Nat’l Archives collection.

      the last part establishes excuses for postponement.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        here’s the latest on that 20 Oct. 2024 deadline. by law they’re suppose to have their excuses written down on record, but if its the Nat’l Archives themselves extending the deadline maybe its a loophole. I’m confident that theres records on UFOs that has nothing to do with nat’l security or sources or methods (like the tech used, etc.), for example radar data from the Nat’l Weather Service for one. but we’ll see…

  2. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    These are the main factions I’m tracking. Jacques Vallée i’m sure you guys are already familiar with , the french dude in Close Encounters is based on him , he was consultant in that movie. Both Elizondo and Greer are adversarial , but both are represented by the same lawyer , that’s Danny Sheehan. Vallée faction don’t seem to worry too much about the two factions below. much of their work is outside the gov’t, not dependent on gov’t data. just regular folks and UFOs/aliens, that’s the Vallée factions’ meat and potatoes. Leslie Kean is the the journalist who leaked the TicTac videos et al. Lue Elizondo was her source.

  3. JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

    Well, LCX, not since Carlos Castaneda have I read such a powerful and intoxicating overlay of the supernatural onto we mere vessels. It is a well organized and fun read, and I agree, the Philippines is ripe with psychic beings there for use by aliens or the Godforce, as it works out. As the terms of this blog state, we share ownership of this article, and I hereby encourage you to work this up for presentation to major film and streaming producers. “The Alien Godforce, a Nation of Psychics”. Terrific.

    Pertaining to Sara, Imee, Leni, and (Risa), I see them as more pragmatic than spiritual, except for Leni. If she can slide from religious spiritual to universe spiritual, then you have the uniting force that you need to draw all three (four) into a spiritual union that would elevate Filipinos to the cosmic realm where money is meaningless and communication is everything.

    Nice work, Lance Corporal. A+, +10

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      Thanks, Joe! this means a lot. Carlos Castaneda’s a big name.

      The UFO stuff is just background info for me, but I think it was the smashing of the UFO stuff and my Inday Sara series that created the spark. I ended up returning to https://joeam.com/2015/09/15/salvation-by-austerity/ I’ll see what else I can mine re Alien Godforce.

      As for IMEE, LENI, SARA (and RISA), we’ll have to leave that to the Jinn. But on communication, it does make me revisit gian’s HS students graduating without reading skills. there’s an anthropology professor i think at Montana that has a story about alien communication and the process involve therein that’s interesting.

    • sonny's avatar sonny says:

      Joe, after a slower read, I totally agree with you. 🙂 (It’s going viral in my AI neurons, in a manner of speaking; the preceding comments helped, too). Kudos, LC

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        Thanks! sonny, can you make a list of saints and their epiphanies that would relate to santelmo-plasma portion of the blog. the D & E Filipinos i think would be more open if within their world view this was introduced. i mean its already there really, I guess i’m just attempting to operationalize it vis a vis 2028 and DE Filipinos.

        • sonny's avatar sonny says:

          LC, the closest phenomenon relating to “angelic intervention” so often used in the Bible are the miracles , IMO. Bcoz you mentioned Jinn, tafsir, santelmo, etc., I will have to conflate elements accompanying mystic experiences in the reportage of such phenomena. The process of canonization in Catholic practice winnows out the chaff unrelated to canons of sanctity & the sacred. The lives of Saints are vetted this way, ie the close scrutiny of miracles associated with sainthood. (more on plasma & worldview & D/E Filipinos)

      • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

        Ha! You nailed it, sonny. I usually rip through text fast but on this one, I got about halfway through the second paragraph and knew I’d better go back and read it right. Then it became a thought provoking, fun read.

        • sonny's avatar sonny says:

          Joe, I’m being drawn to a 2nd slower read of LC’s blog. The mythical nature of the blog’s trajectory is taking on a siren’s song that can end up like Scylla & Charybdis.

          • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

            “Being between Scylla and Charybdis is an idiom deriving from Greek mythology, which has been associated with the proverbial advice “to choose the lesser of two evils”.[1] Several other idioms such as “on the horns of a dilemma”, “between the devil and the deep blue sea”, and “between a rock and a hard place” express similar meanings.[2] The mythical situation also developed a proverbial use in which seeking to choose between equally dangerous extremes is seen as leading inevitably to disaster.” Wiki

            Hahaha! Yes, yes. I think you may be onto something, sonny!

  4. Taciano Manuel Nonong Rey's avatar Taciano Manuel Nonong Rey says:

    This is à lié. Dutertes are EEVIL

    Sent from Outlook for Androidhttps://aka.ms/AAb9ysg


    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

      I’ve deleted your second post. Kindly don’t troll the blog. What is the lie? You can call it fiction, you can call it unbelievable, you can call it brilliant if you read a lot, you can call it trash. But calling it a “lie” impugns the author, and that is a violation of comment guidelines.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        This subject in particular is open to impugning. so I don’t personally mind. all this could be lie after all. there’s a character from Gravity Falls that’s really popular his name is Bill Cipher, background story is that he’s basically from Flatland, a 2D reality but he saw the 3D reality and ended up in Gravity Falls. the meme generated from Bill is that “REALITY IS AN ILLUSION”. so we’ll revisit that nueroscientist at UCI for this, though I’m having a difficult time understanding him. but what he’s saying essentially has been said before, he’s just saying the math and his own experiments suggests its true. whatever true is. so let’s open it up atleast for this blog, to lie– the definition of it and what it really means vis a vis “REALITY IS AN ILLUSSION”.

        • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

          Reality is definitely an illusion. I’m 100% with that.

          • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

            Canales’s conclusion, though, does much to redeem her encyclopedic approach. She links her demonology to what she calls “the audacity of our imagination,” our ability to imagine what does not yet exist or seems as if it cannot be real. “Bedeviled” ends with an appeal to what the literary critic Peter Swirski and the philosopher Tamar Gendler have explored elsewhere in their work on thought experiments: the fact that scientists, like novelists and philosophers, sometimes work best in speculative modes. “Faust,” “Frankenstein,” Laplace, and Maxwell all offered us imaginary demons that taught us something about reality. Even as the laboratory became a crucial arena for modern science, the mind remained more important. “What is key about science’s demons,” Canales writes in her postscript, “is how they become real, that is, how our imagination drives discovery and how we can use it to change the world.”

            https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/sciences-demons-from-descartes-to-darwin-and-beyond

            that’s good reading there, Joe. so Bill Cipher is just our latest in this long line of demons we’ve been using as thought experiments, on reality. Kant said Space and Time were lens we had apriori, Don Hoffman is just saying (i think) that these lenses are in fact not necessary. anymore.

            there’s a bunch of reddit threads on Hoffman, this one’s one of the better ones…

            • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

              I’ll have to read up on the evolution portion of his theory. but the math I just can’t understand, Joe. will revisit this and connect it to gian’s HS graduates can’t read worry. and will say don’t worry.

            • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

              I find reddit chaotic and somewhere in the range of helpful at a technical level to complete blithering idiocy. I rarely tread there as I don’t like the sensation of my skin crawling. Illusion, I know, but a disagreeable one.

              • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                You’re right about reddit, Joe. as social media its hit or miss. some sub reddits are better than others, USMC one I really like. different UCs i check now and then, UCSC I think is the best cuz theres professors that go on there to set the kids straight explain stuff to them, UCR for instance is dead. but discord i think is where most are. as to that reddit link above, I’m just trying to figure out Don Hoffman’s work. that reality as illusion has been around since Decartes (see above), that part of Hoffman’s idea is easy to understand, then theres his neuroscience work, then the math he’s relying on from mathematicians and physicists, that part I don’t understand so i go to youtube, no cigar, but that specific post i’ve shared of some Redditor summarizing one of Hoffman’s papers is pretty good. dumbed down. That evolution portion is kinda related to what Joey’s talking about psychedelics. how our 5 senses has evolved to just focus on whats important, not really in knowing reality. use interface is what Hoffman talks about in his youtube talks. that part has been coverd by Kant, see video here (theres a part 2 to 4 too, but part 1 is enough especially if you’ve seen Matrix the movie):

                Psychedelics allows some access of Noumenal, from what studies are showing , especially DMT.

    • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

      hi, taciano. I tend to agree with you, the dutertes are not only evil devil weevil but also liars as in not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me themis, goddess of justice and wisdom and bearer of the truth, and carrier of the sword and scale. themis baby now seemingly busy swinging the sword of truth and justice and fast coming after this evil devil weevil clan.

      you must have also noticed the ufo that used to constantly hover around old man duterte, whose teeth looks like blofeld’s in a james bond film the spy who loved me. trillanes once accused this ufo as a member of chinese triad identifiable by a tattoo on his back that unfortunately may have erased and no longer visible.

      anyway, aside from duterte’s ufo who is really very annoying and whiny, there is also a more annoying entity who looks like oddjob, also in the james bond film, you know the one? bald, muscly, and likes to decapitate people by just throwing his bowler hat at them. yeah, oddjob lookalike now wants to hold his own inquiry having been implicated in duterte’s infamous war against drugs, parallel to senate inquiry currently going.

      why should oddjob lookalike be allowed to hold his own inquiry when he has already threatened to punch up witness kerwin espinosa if kerwin baby ever cross path with him! susmaryosep! oddjob lookalike is likely to intimidate and harass witnesses even more if given the chance!

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        “trillanes once accused this ufo as a member of chinese triad identifiable by a tattoo on his back that unfortunately may have erased and no longer visible.” LOL!

        but this is actually a good segue to Congressional hearings Philippine style and USA style. granted most congressional hearings are similar, catch me if you can type deals. for both countries actually. but UFO hearings are something totally different, kb. and Trillanes should read this blog, take notes, then go back in time to that hearing but this time with actual photos or mimeograph of said tattoo in question. so when he asks to see the tattoo, if no. then here are the proofs, UFO!!! cuz that’s what’s going on with these UFO hearings. hearings beget laws, then laws beget more hearings, then so on and so forth until something new is birthed. like I said above the new legislation is essentially a search warrant. eventually i forecaste high ranking officials and CEO managers from aerospace industry will come forward. I never understood the tattoo line of questioning from Trillanes, ask only questions you know answers to already.

  5. You mentioned the DE classes. Out of them, those who drink gin are most likely to meet Jinn. For that purpose, they should be made to drink mainly (natural!) gin again and stopped from taking (chemical!) shabu.

    On the political front, which is more quantifiable, there is what happened today in Sorsogon. Bikol’s Lake Buhi remains a mystery, even as it being full moon today might give you insight.

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      Joe sent this to me via twitter yesterday. And been racking my mind last night. We need a model or frame or lens from which to divine stuff from, and I’m thinking this is what she and VP Sara talked about at Naga, eg. let’s feel out how far gone PBBM is, so we can calibrate and recalibrate going forward. Imee Marcos I’m sure is behind the scene. Can the three women win over Risa, that’s the question now, Ireneo.

      • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

        As I understand it, Senate President Escudero invited Leni Robredo to the ceremony to represent her area as its most esteemed citizen, and it was her natural courtesy that would have her be gracious to the President of the Philippines. Just as she stood smiling yet a bit distanced from Duterte early on during her term as VP. Now this spiritual softness might also be the Godforce at work, and who can guess, from our illusionary posts, what might flow from it.

    • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

      Irineo, this is just a suggestion: pls re-post the whole picture so I can see where their feet are pointing. thanks.

  6. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    So, I really like this youtube channel, Chris Lehto (LEHTO Files) , a former Air Force F-16 pilot new to UFO due to the TicTac video, though he doesn’t have any UFO stories himself. here he is talking about a paper on plasma.

    • Ghostbusters taught me that ectoplasm can turn into a marshmallow man.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        etymologically its the same plasma, Ireneo. whether plasma itself can create ectoplasm, is a good point. cuz the actual “hard” evidence is what’s missing here. materialist, positivists products that we are of our schooling (mostly high school for me, but higher degrees for many here on TSOH), we require such stuff. So what if this plasma consciousness not only create ectoplasm from thin air, but also metals and such. back to Jinns there are a specific kind of jinnis that Sufis have always known about this UFO/aliens stuff, and that is there are jinns that create technology and have shared said technology to humanity. theres a bunch of sufi youtube videos on this as well. that we are living in an age of the Jinn. and their shennanigans. Gary Nolan’s the one in Stanford studying UAP materials, as well as Avi Loeb in Harvard. i think Avi Loeb is further along: https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/galileo/ (prior to Avi Loeb, it was John Mack but he was a psychologist/psychiatrist studying abductions by UFO/aliens).

  7. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    As to LCPL Weygandt in Peru. Marine detachments get attach to bigger components, so seems like they would fall under an Air Force command whilst in Peru. LAAD is an Air Wing unit, I’m not as familiar with the Air Wingers. but theres some dude on UFO Twitter that connected more dots on this, and here’s his article: https://medium.com/@rghufos/ufo-crash-in-peru-1997-32eea34a4ee8

    LCPL Herrera in Indonesia. I’m familiar with how MEUs work. his ship was broken off from the main element to do humanitarian assistance. that makes sense. what doesn’t make sense for me is no comms. but it could happen I suppose. When this guy came out last year to share his story in DC, I called bs (gut reaction). with LCPL Weygandt I was more taken by his description of the craft, that to me was convincing. But w/ LCPL Herrera, I was like man his squad or platoon’s gonna come out in force to take this joker down. and sure enough his fire team leader comes out to call his bs. he offers two photos, one during work up in Pendleton (?) that’s Herrera alright, then a second photo he took of his 2 Marines under his charge as fire team leader in a helicopter about to off load in Padang, but its clearly not Herrera, the face is longer than Herrera. and then I was like, what the fuck that’s obviously not Herrera. in any case, the Herrera case turns into this gift that just keeps on giving, and some reddit dude is reporting it. its gone quiet of late, but here’s the reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1b0gqqs/seven_months_of_investigating_michael_herrera/

  8. Karl Garcia's avatar Karl Garcia says:

    Another X File mystery.

    Winners always cheat? Regional identity and the myth of a rigged 2022 Philippine presidential election

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/20578911241278776

    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

      I’d like to read the article but I’ll not pay the $37.50 required to do so. It is a subset of a British blog of no known stature. The argument made in the blurb does not address the technical matter of millions of votes sent in during the first hour from a single computer. It merely judges that the election challenges come from a specific region and therefore are not legitimate. Which is weak weak weak, even nonsensical.

    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

      “Plasma is one of the four common states of matter – solid, liquid, gas, and plasma. Plasma is an electrically charged gas. Because plasma particles have an electrical charge, they are affected by electrical and magnetic fields. This is the main difference between a gas and a plasma.” (UCAR Center for Science Education)

      Well, as clouds can be made of different chemicals, so, too can plasma.

      Interstellar plasma refers to the partly ionized plasma in the local interstellar medium that interacts with the solar wind plasma, forming the heliospheric interface.” (siencedirect.com)

      Boy, that is virtually unintelligible to the normal human mind. Which makes it an abnormal definition. Wiki explains more understandably:

      The interstellar medium (ISM) is the matter and radiation that exists in the space between the star systems in a galaxy. This matter includes gas in ionic, atomic, and molecular form, as well as dust and cosmic rays. It fills interstellar space and blends smoothly into the surrounding intergalactic space. The energy that occupies the same volume, in the form of electromagnetic radiation, is the interstellar radiation field. Although the density of atoms in the ISM is usually far below that in the best laboratory vacuums, the mean free path between collisions is short compared to typical interstellar lengths, so on these scales the ISM behaves as a gas (more precisely, as a plasma: it is everywhere at least slightly ionized), responding to pressure forces, and not as a collection of non-interacting particles.

      The ISM plays a crucial role in astrophysics precisely because of its intermediate role between stellar and galactic scales. Stars form within the densest regions of the ISM, which ultimately contributes to molecular clouds and replenishes the ISM with matter and energy through planetary nebulae, stellar winds, and supernovae. This interplay between stars and the ISM helps determine the rate at which a galaxy depletes its gaseous content, and therefore its lifespan of active star formation.

      It appears to be a physical, electronic medium rather than anything spiritual.

      • Karl Garcia's avatar Karl Garcia says:

        Thanks for that Joe.

        • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

          karl, am I missing something here? cuz your link was about plasma waste incineration, correct? where is Joe getting this astronomy stuff?

          • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

            I was educating myself on what plasma is, and shared it here because it seems to be the most powerful force in the universe apart from the spiritual realm that generates the illusions in which we participate.

            • sonny's avatar sonny says:

              Joe, leave it to LC to surface the genius of language, English in this case, specifically the word “plasma.” In my learning of English I gather that plasma is used as a descriptor of homogeneity. The sun is pure plasma of Helium & Hydrogen ions, atoms stripped of electrons; blood plasma consists of white blood corpuscles only; plasma waste consists of waste that has been pre-treated by a clearly defined process of extraction; plasma consciousness consists of members of living creatures with souls, the meaning further appropriated by classes of practitioners, etc.

              • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                Ah, very good, sonny. Thanks. That explains the differences and the similarities, here and there.

                • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                  Thanks, sonny! (i think)

                  As to plasma I came upon this while trying to connect UFOs/aliens to Philippines. bestiary of Filipinos supernatural entities. I remember Mango ave girls talking about santelmos that would follow them home in the mountains/province. some recounting stories of human-santelmo interactions. so when I saw that episode of plasma from that Christ Lehto channel. i found the connection. santelmo-plasma. Jinn was just to give it more historical credence. so I myself like Joe am googling this plasma stuff (Christ Lehtos videos was the start for me) in real time as well. am trying to get a hold of this book, not in the library.

                  I agree, plasma as a word seems to be a catch all. but specifically we’re talking about the 4th state of matter (liquid, solid, gas… plasma). Maybe karl’s plasma incinerator is in fact related here. so in a way if its conscious sentient and we’re just letting it burn our waste, that’s kinda slave labor. j/k. it seems theres lab studies on this too, not just the paper outlining plasma behavior in near earth orbit. as to blood, there’s studies by Roger Penrose on microtubules (i dunno what that is) wherein theres interactions of light, i guess related to biophotons too but in your brain. so that story of santelmos-humans interacting in the province maybe true after all.

                  But I was just trying to connect UFO and Philippines, and came upon santelmo-plasma in the process. psychic is where we should be stirring the conversation eventually. but it takes a bit to recalibrate from materialist/positivist view of reality. but psychic-mystic aspect of the UFO blog was where I thought you’d take interest in, sonny, eg. how St. Francis et al were turned. cuz from Diana Pasulka shes saying it was santelmos. can you speak more on catholic mystical experiences?

          • Karl Garcia's avatar Karl Garcia says:

            You can connect just about anything.You can do that now.

            • The sun is to my knowledge made of plasma. Nuclear fusion always creates plasma, but no one has so far been able to maintain the chain reaction, AND the magnetic field to keep the plasma in bounds for any significant time. Plasma gasification is high energy but low oxygen incineration, and as far as I have understood, it has the least emissions of all incineration technologies. Ectoplasm as in Ghost Busters is cold and icky. What kind of plasma would a Santelmo be?

              • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                for the purposes of this blog, the only connection thats relevant to Joe’s 2028 mission is santelmo-plasma and psychic-mystic. then D & E Filipinos. The rest I’ll concede is fluff. but still interesting. like reality as illusion, cuz that connects to D & E Filipinos.

    • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

      my fave plasma is simple, more down to earth and supportive of life. it is given as transfusion to treat people with medical condition like maybe hemophilia or those with clotting problems as well as those with liver problems.

      blood plasma: when both red blood cells and white blood cells are taken out from donated blood, plasma is left, the amber or yellowish liquid the color of hay. plasma is then bagged and frozen. it’s used in hospitals quite a lot, cost a bit too. plasma has short shelf life and must be used within the time allocated.

  9. Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

    I am thoroughly confused and need to read all the replies 😅

      • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

        I’ve been drug sober for 20 years, minus the cigarette habit 🤣

        • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

          Haha, then I guess you’ll have to figure it out on your own.

        • Try coyote then – not eating coyote, more like reading this book which plays in SoCal:

          A Review of Hari Kunzru’s Gods Without Men

          “..So the basic outline of the Schmidt chapter is that after the war Schmidt settles in the desert because of some ill-defined spiritual joo-joo and does his best to commune with aliens. His intention is as follows: “The world had split in two, either side of the Iron Curtain. He would heal the wound. His intention was to summon the only force powerful enough to transcend Communism and Capitalism and halt the cascade of destructive energies. Since the dawn of history there had been contact with extraterrestrial intelligences. Ezekiel’s wheels within wheels, the Mayan space pilots, the cosmic weaponry of Vedic India – the visitors possessed a spiritual technology far in advance of the crude mechanisms of earth. It was time for them to manifest themselves, to intervene in the lives of men” (13). You get the idea. You read it in a Time-Life book you ordered off TV in 1985..

          ..While Jaz, Raj, and Nicky are getting acquainted, Lisa goes to a bar known for catering to lowlifes, and who does she run into but Coyote? The human one. He and some of his buddies are in the process of dragging Lisa off to nowhere good when Lisa is rescued by Dawn from the motel, who drives her out to the Pinnacle Rocks for some reason and then back to the motel. When Lisa returns she is chastened by the whole experience, and she and Jaz forgive each other and decide to go on a hike back to the Pinnacle Rocks so Jaz can see them. They bring Raj in his stroller, and they leave him in the shade when they walk in a circle around the rocks, and when they come back, he is gone. The empty stroller is sitting there, but no Raj. They’re in open desert and can see for miles, but there’s no sign of Raj. Things proceed as you would think – manhunt, etc. – and then after a LONG time – months, I think – he’s found by some teenagers on a Marine base, just wandering around along the perimeter of the base..”

          There is a Marine base in that novel, so there are certainly LCPLs. There are UFOs and aliens. There is even a connection to our historical discourse as there is a Spanish friar assigned to California = an SFAC not an AFAM. There is a connection to the jobs of many here in IT to an Indian programmer who gets lost in the California desert. It isn’t clear if he gets abducted by aliens. For those with less time or too rational to read that kind of novel, there are quotes.

          https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/15997619-gods-without-men

          “Joseph Smith himself had laid a hand on his shoulder and prophesied that as long as he cut not his hair, neither bullet nor blade could harm him; and so it had proved.”

          “What if one were to want to hunt for these hidden presences? You can’t just rummage around like you’re at a yard sale. You have to listen. You have to pay attention. There are certain things you can’t look at directly. You need to trick them into revealing themselves. That’s what we’re doing with Walter, Jaz. We’re juxtaposing things, listening for echoes. It’s not some silly cybernetic dream of command and control, modeling the whole world so you can predict the outcome. It’s certainly not a theory of everything. I don’t have a theory of any kind. What I have is far more profound.’

          ‘What’s that?’

          ‘A sense of humor.’

          Jaz looked at him, trying to find a clue in his gaunt face, in the clear gray eyes watching him with such – what? Amusement? Condescension? There was something about the man which brought on a sort of hermeneutic despair. He was a forest of signs.

          ‘We’re hunting for jokes.’ Bachman spoke slowly, as if to a child. ‘Parapraxes. Cosmic slips of the tongue. They’re the key to the locked door. They’ll help us discover it.’

          ‘Discover what?’

          ‘The face of God. What else would we be looking for?”

          “Driving was almost the only thing that felt natural in America. It was traditional. It was patriotic. When you accelerated, you could almost hear the crowd cheering you on.”

          • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

            I am convinced that this author was on mushrooms or psychedelics while writing the novel. It reminds me of the time as a teen collecting mushrooms from a ranch only to have the rancher chasing us with a shotgun. We also tipped over his cow, which was probably why he was angry and thought we were rustlers. On the way back to the run down apartment of my friends that served as their artist commune, the trash bins starting flapping their lids as if talking to me while the street lamps bent down to say hello. Later as we were coming off the high, our friend decided to take another dose which convinced him he was a bird and climbed out of the window to fly away. Thankfully it was only the second floor, so he ended up with only a broken leg and scratches from the bushes. He woke up really quickly.

            We also have coyotes here, the animal. One came up on my security camera earlier.

            • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

              “I am convinced that this author was on mushrooms or psychedelics while writing the novel.” So I heard the VA or schools in the east coast are doing psychedelics trials opened specifically to vets. so maybe theres no VA funding but gov’t funding to schools where their test trial subjects are from the VA. not clear on logistics. in any case, this stuff is now widely popular compared to the treatment (talkies and pills) they have currently. It doesn’t seem like your buddy had a bad trip per se, Joey, just that he wasn’t suppose to be up and about when under. the best way to use these, is to be in a room, with a guide talking you thru ensuring safety,

              then your eyes are suppose to be close, the point being psychedelics meant to be internal not external. but bad trips do happen. what they’re doing now is start ’em off with MDMA ecstasy (not psychedelics technically), to deal with the personal demons that might produce bad trips, after 3 sessions of this MDMA, then its psychedelics. again 3 good sessions of psychedelics will usually be enough to treat whatever problems experienced. its usually LSD. but DMT is now becoming popular cuz its only 30 minutes tops and its usually life changing for the better. i’ve tried to convince karl on here to do psychedelics. but he’s shy.

              The relevance to the blog, is how do Filipinos mass produce psychic-mystics, cuz I’m thinking this is the next OFW/BPO. and psychedelics is definite one means to do so. ability to go beyond the 5 senses too is genetics. so a breeding program might be feasible. but it can also be taught. simply getting people aware that reality as you know it is an illusion is enough to get them to dream or attempt to read other peoples thoughts (which is empathy or the start of if none). so this is win-win-win. Near death experiences too push minds towards psychic-mystic abilities. that Edgar Cayce Akashic records was replicated en mass by that Star Gate program (Men who stare at goats was a movie that touched a bit on it). they did similar to what Cayce recounted. so it is reproduceable i think. Thus if you guys know how to produce more psychics/mystics even anecdotes that would greatly help IMEE-LENI-SARA (and RISA) defeat PBBM, and usher in a new Philippines– josephivo’s New Thinkers. even if nothing comes out of it, just emphathy simple empathy will increase in the Philippines.

              • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                Prince Harry does mushrooms. Probably why he’s not a (insert descriptor here) like his brother. Mushrooms here grow huge. Definitely big enough for Alice to sit on.

                • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                  Psychedelics are free. dosage I think is the main issue, Joe. once dosage is perfected, then its just about setting. nice peaceful room no clutter a good guide to help you out. close eyes, and go. in the case of DMT , no need for guide really, just someone to watch over your body.

                  • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                    I’m claustrophobic, which is basically about losing control. So psychedelics for me would be like climbing into a dark hole. I’m not turning my guidance mechanisms over to a big fungus.

                    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                      Me too. that’s why I’m trying to convince karl to do it. but if Joey’s done it, like actually gone to the noumenal, then I hope he talks about it more. I have the same worries as you, but more like what if I become possessed like the Exorcist. but studies do show its helped a lot of people, especially in mental issues that involve being stuck in mental loops like anxiety (future worries), depression (pass worries), addiction, ptsd, etc. etc. why it helps is my interest, as well as how to scale that.

                    • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                      Psychedelics if done alone can be quite dangerous. The psychedelic itself isn’t that dangerous, but it can lead one to engage in dangerous behavior since one feels “out of body.” That’s what happened to my buddy when we were in high school. Thankfully he only broke some bones and didn’t die. The One Direction guy Liam Payne was probably on psychedelics when he jumped out of his hotel window the other day and didn’t meet a good end.

                      When I was at Berkeley, I took a journalism class with a still relatively unknown professor — Michael Pollan.

                      https://journalism.berkeley.edu/person/pollan/

                      He is one of the leading proponents on returning to healthier (pre-industrially processed food) eating and also the study of psychedelics, which is an interesting segue for an English and Journalism professor. Pollan would regularly host cookouts with students, some of which I attended where we would experiment with different cooking methods, and different meats/produce from around the world. Pollan had a profoud affect on my life and until this day I rarely eat processed food; I cook most of my food and use minimally processed products when possible. Pollan has written a number of very fascinating books, which can be summed up in two series he did for Netflix: “Cooked” (exploration of the human connection to food) and “How to Change Your Mind” (exploration of psychedelics).

                    • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

                      people experiencing mental issues that go beyond the normal ought to go and see their local gp. referral to a mental health specialist who can prescribe medication maybe in order.

                      people ought not self medicate for the consequences can be dire. they may not know the correct dosage to use as regard their own bodyweight, height, and age and long they have to self medicate. or there may will be compatibility problem with other medication already being taken. there can also be other existing medical condition they know nothing about which can exacerbate their current symptoms, but can be picked up on doctor’s examination.

      • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

        that is a lot of bs. nobody uses the boksingera! is she playing the victim now? marcos drag her to hell, is that why she is not attending congressional inquiry of all things, her satellite offices that cost the govt 23million rent a month paved her shimmery road to hell. and she sashayed all the way. we need evidence, not just hearsay. honesty is not in inday’s character. show us evidence that can be collaborated.

        by marcoses, inday must mean bff imee, her brother, and mother imelda. drag her to hell, so where are inday’s bruises!

      • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

        hah, I would like to see that! kung tunay na ilocano si imee at matapang, she would present inday with a bobcat and say, go on dig up apo bangkay! and bring exhumation papers with you, real one not fake, and signed by a medical officer.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        Do you have video of this, karl? its just such a weird thing to say, even for Filipinos, but it is something Jinns would do. theres this preoccupation with Jinns and cemeteries. and why most Muslims will never visit graves. but if we look thru this from the IMEE-LENI-SARA (soon RISA) framework, it looks like a one – two punch to me. Leni does what she’s great at; whilst Sara does what she’s great at (on offensive). Imee’s part in this would probably be in telling PBBM just have patience dear brother Leni and Sara are just just being Leni and Sara, slight of hand. remember Leni is anti-Marcos. so for sure Leni and Sara are winking in the Akashic realm right now, karl. if PBBM was smart he’d get psychics to look into the Akashic realm to figure out what those three women are up to. but he won’t so no worries there, cuz PBBM won’t even read this UFO blog. but i gotta feeling the women already have and they’re probably asking themselves if LCPL_X is eavesdropping on them in the Akashic realm. I have to put them at ease, karl, I’m here to help, ladies. I’m on your team.

        • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

          found it, karl. seems she’s going thru counter factuals then cause effects at the beginning. sisi is regrets so seems like journalists are trying to pin her down over this. She does switch to complete Bisaya when asked about VP Leni, so for sure those two are in cahoots i think, karl. i’m sure.

      • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

        Among the most distasteful humans on the planet, LCX’s search for love blinding him to the sad creature that resides within that human form. I had looked for something better from her for quite a while. Strength rather than aggression, but found only aggression. She’s got issues.

        • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

          I can’t find the whole press conference, Joe. theres a lot more to that above I found. I did find one wherein a Japanese sounding journalists asked her if PBBM would not have won if she wasn’t part of his ticket and something a long the line of does she blame herself for making PBBM win. because otherwise VP Leni would’ve won. I was like dude that was literally my article!

          https://joeam.com/2021/12/13/sara-all-how-bbm-will-fall-2022/

          I gotta feeling she’s using this platform , eg. press conference , like Tulfo is using youtube, Joe. she’s switching from Tagalog to Bisaya, but staying way clear off geopolitics. smart. so the way she’s answering these questions with imagery and drama and try-door and axe grinding , well thats the language of Mango ave. , Joe. if she doesn’t get a budget and just do these press conferences, I gotta feeling it’ll be enough for 2028.

          • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

            Good be but I’d put my money on impeachment. She is being rude to a man with huge power.

            • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

              I think this is the complete one, Joe. and time stamp 26:00 or so is where she talks about a student and PBBM. “Mr. President can I have your watch as a graduation present?” … “Why , why would I give you my watch?”. I gotta feeling this will play well to its intended audience, Joe. “I saw the humiliation on the face of the kid”. “I imagine myself cutting off his head.” then she talks about footage of that is available. something about imagination. So its what she was thinking, i guess. “This is over” from that incident. “Let’s go to hell”. Just means she’s gonna fight now. for 2028.

              • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                This one’s the complete one. sorry. it doesn’t search so easily for me (maybe all the UFO videos) I had to go individually to each channel to find this. I’m still watching it. Google translate where i think important. getting gists here and there. but re “rude” from Joe, kulang that PBBM was kulang. that’s really pushing it i think. vis a vis “huge” power, but I gotta feeling this is Imee’s word for her little brother, and not Sara’s.

                • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                  I probably missed this too cuz that cover photo for the video is last time’s press conference. I just noticed that now.

              • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                Okay, maybe it’s just my cultural background to see that as cringe.

                • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                  I agree with you that its cringe, Joe. “road to perdition” and “shit hole” were the phrases I totally understood. lines definitely clearly drawn from now to 2028. still watching this, but nothing in it suggests a break from my IMEE-LENI-SARA ship. my question is, this press conference seems to be a reaction to something, eg. deception, Mr. deception. what happened? it does seem like her primary target for this press conference even with the innuendos and such against PBBM, that its Martin Romualdez. she’s always repeating his name. don’t really know much of him.

                  • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                    He’s Marcos’s cousin and Speaker of the House. The House turned against the Dutertes when the Dutertes turned against Romualdez. Why they did that, I don’t know. Marcos likely wants him as the next president, but he has zero public appeal. Now if Sara is impeached, the President picks the next VP. If he picked Romualdez, that would certainly boost his shot at 2028. That’s why my bookie thinks impeachment is on the way.

                    But I also agree your spiritual set of four, including Hontiveros, is intact as a political force if they can figure out who does what. Therein lies the rub.

                    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                      Okay. I think I get the wider game now. I’ll have to youtube this Martin fella. So the wild card is still Tulfo then (Ireneo’s guy). As for the coven, I think Imee will gladly bow out knowing electibility is with Leni and Sara. Sara I think will bow to Leni. But Leni might prefer VP again so long as her budget is upped. Where Risa fits I don’t know. But that word kulang is pretty strong, meaning the three (or four) will be gunning for bigger players in the background. that PBBM is just a puppet. cuz someone that’s kulang will just have puppeteers.

                    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                      You might want to figure where Liza Araneta Marcos fits in your scheme. I sense great psychic and puppeteer powers from her. Imelda’s are fading but she certainly still is in the opposition coven.

                    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                      I hope they find video of that watch incident. I’d like to see it.

                    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                      She does mention Liza in the press conference, and you can tell theres a special hatred there, Joe. this is getting interesting.

                    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                      I have no idea. She is in a class of people who are so aggravating that they up my blood pressure beyond healthy limits. So, as with mushrooms, I avoid the dangers.

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      Apparently that watch incident was a PMA graduation. Which would mean that recent graduate was waaaay out of line. But why PBBM wasn’t able to just play along and say something like, “This watch cost more than you’ll ever make , even with retirement pension!!! “ or “You’ll have to launch a coup to get this watch!!!”

      • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

        https://bilyonaryo.com/2022/06/30/president-bongbong-marcos-wears-p8m-watch-on-his-first-day-in-office/social/

        if this was the watch in question, it cost 8million! no wonder the president was laughing. did not want to be santa claus, haha.

      • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

        see the horizontal scar on sara’s neck? that looks like a surgical scar from thyroidectomy. she alleged to have gotten the scar from unsuccessful ‘gurgur’ that someone tried to slash her but did not succeed. coming close to sara enough to slash her neck is rather impossible to happen coz sara has currently 320 well trained security guards all armed to the teeth! ready to defend her at all cost.

        if indeed she had thyroidectomy, she ought to have her post op meds reviewed. the wrong treatment regimen can make her unnecessary anxious, irritable and combative.

        • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

          Oh, this is good stuff. I knew the watch must be expensive but not 8 million buchs expensive! thanks also for that Rolex 12, Ireneo. this stuff about expensive watch is totally against plasma consciousness for sure, lol.

          kb, I did wonder about that scar on her neck. is it recent? i’d not noticed it but I’m just 2 press conferences in right now (last month for my other blog, and this month for UFO blog), never noticed it prior. if it is recent and she’s still on meds then that is a valid issue.

          Whether meds related, I am kinda happy sheriff punching Inday Sara is back, though now she’s punching the President (figuratively) now. I still think her dad’s got more charisma, but I’ve watched 2 two hours-long press conferences now, and there is a kind of charm to her,

          she’s switcing from tagalog to English (her english is good) I know its tagalog cuz she goes slow, but when she switches to bisaya she goes super fast. I noticed that “fuck you” mouthed when talking about PBBM too. that was funny.

          • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

            the scar was 1st noticed on 19th june 2024 and it is of the right size for thyroidectomy. she must have done it sometimes in april-may 2024 when she was incommunicado and could not be reached. recovery time is around 2 weeks though others recover earlier and report for light duties in week.

            I heard singapore is her to go place for medical procedures, subsequent follow up treatment done in philippines.

  10. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    Once you don’t get kids to read in the lower elementary grades, you’ll never get them to read thru high school. for those that do catch up, they’ll always be reading one word at a time even in their heads. so no enjoyment in reading, means no reading thru out adulthood , even for work. things won’t ever click.

    Theres really no solution for this, as far as more reading. ship has left. The best would be how Tom Cruise and i guess theres a bunch of actors with all sorts of learning disabilities. And they do it thru assisstants or audiobooks. which throws us back to what communication really means. Sonny and Joe said once they read the blog slowly things clicked for them, i’d go further and say it wasn’t the the speed at which they read it, but

    when they opened up their minds, and engaged with it, when it really clicked. by engage I mean they were connecting other threads already in their minds to fit and mix and match with say plasma, santelmo, saints, angels, demons maybe, UFOs, aliens, etc. etc. that is really what communication means, open mind then the receptive mind creates points for the new information to connect with. then engagement not in the comments section, but what sonny says in neurons.

    theres this drawing when I was reading up on gnostics a long time ago that I’ve saved and always look at time and again. and i think its relevant again now:

    I’ll have more to say on this matter. so lets tackle this no read no write problem too. vis a vis psychics and mystics.

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      The most relevant portion is that “Boundary to contain the deficiency”.

    • Three things on reading and reading comprehension:

      1. There was a lot of focus on speed reading in school when I was growing up in the Philippines.

      1a. This meant that one could easily learn to jump to conclusions. I relished reading Edgar because he took the time to enumerate.

      1b. Add to that the attitude of those “maldita teachers” (c) Joey who treated asking why as an offense. Having only a half clear picture in your mind is the result.

      2. Sometimes, way too abstract teachings.

      2a. My classic example of memorizing names of Filipino instruments without even pictures, much less recordings. I had the chance to visit a neighbor, a musicologist, and check some out.

      2b. We learned all about photosynthesis in high school, xylem, phloem, etc. I found Science Club excursions to the sea (photo luminescent creatures) and Makiling (insects) cooler.

      3. Frontal teaching with little room for discussion of the subject matter does not promote active listening. It at most promotes rote memorization. Reading well is like active listening. The actual discussions here at TSOH taught me a lot. Many perspectives on subject matter.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        https://mtech.edu/arts-sciences/faculty/michael-masters/index.html

        So that guy is an academic also doing UFO/aliens. he’s an anthropology professor so lots of evolution type theories on aliens. nothing too original really. but recently, he’s on podcasts talking about going to some UFO/aliens event and meeting abductees who sat him down, face to face, wherein abductees acted as mediums so aliens could communicate with Masters. whatever… but his description of the process was what was interesting to me and maybe relevant here. at first he was “talking” to the alien, eventually they were just exchanging non verbally, just pure ideas back and forth. so this concept of pure ideas, is similar to your number 2, Ireneo. how to reach that level of communication. I’m convince it doesn’t happen thru reading, or even listening for that matter. Like Inday Sara’s press conference, that was communication. sure kb maybe right that its just the meds talking. but that whole drama I recognize as the language of Mango ave. Joe says its cringe, but Wowowee was also cringe and that was hugely popular. though I hope WowoWillie doesn’t become senator. But my point is this pure ideas communication, how do you transfer that to D & E. folks who already can’t read can’t write, i’m sure listening will be minimal too, like how Joey doesn’t wanna sit thru certain podcasts, and Joe’s BP limits insists on avoiding them.

        • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

          As to 1 and 3, I thought this was good advice in general.

          • The poetry stuff reminds me of Ozymandias as declaimed at the end of Breaking Bad.

            I doubt that most who went to school in the Philippines would deliver it like in the above video: instead, they would go OA. Joey was accurate about the country often being OA/extra.

            • This old sketch by Tito Vic and Joey (the first many will recognize, the second has a son named Vico) might be parodying the OA declamation of poetry, but it also pretty much exemplifies it. There is a half-finished thought related to that I will get back to later.

              • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                there was the OA series that i really liked that they cancelled. coulda been explored further. What s OA, Ireneo?

                • OA stands for over acting, I think the American English word for it is “extra,” like Ruby Rod acted in The Fifth Element (see below) making Vice Ganda look restrained. The effect of OA in Philippine culture from Marcos Sr. style speeches, which are out by now, to an overemphasis on belting in the singing culture, to over the top dramas is deep, I think. It makes for a culture that emphasizes the performative, the loud, the over dramatic. It’s not like other cultures don’t have OA aspects. In the Philippines, it crowds out finer nuances, clear and long-term thinking.

                  • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                    Haha, love this old clip. Actually I recall watching “Zoolander” (in the Philippines) back in 2001. Most of my non-academic Filipino friends thought that Derek Zoolander was a perfectly relatable and normal person. The entire premise that Derek Zoolander is very “extra” just went whoosh over their heads. Similar reaction to Ben Stiller’s later film “Tropic Thunder.” Interesting, especially with “Tropic Thunder,” because the ensemble cast were mostly all well-known method actors who were mocking the seriousness of method acting. Again, whoosh.

            • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

              Oh, I’ve seen enough Filipino student video projects to have a bit of a laugh at the extreme OA-ness. Interestingly, just like in teleserye, the students get “everything else” right: the videography, setting, even costuming despite student budgets. Then when their lips part to speak, I just can’t contain my laughter haha. I’ve also attended a few “thespian” club productions in the Philippines, which aren’t that much better.

        • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

          uy, dont worry too much about no read no write D & E folks. they can read alright, and they can read moods, when you’re happy, sad, annoying, bombastic, etc. and they can read your body language too and can tell when you’re lying or just being obtuse. some of them are very smart but like to play dumb. they have their own fantastic network, they may know nothing about motor mechanics but they know how to steal and start a dead car, conversant too of car parts and sell them in the black market. they’re not exactly technicians but know how to fix cellphones, and sell them. they got good memories and have good sense of directions, but are negotiable and quite adaptable. they cannot read sheet music but can sing and play musical instrument like guitar and ukelele. not being able to read and write have not stop D & E folks from enjoying life.

          • I know people with some of these talents.

            The husband of my former yaya, an Ilocano from Nueva Ecija who worked as a tricycle driver in Metro Manila for a while, knows how to fix cars extremely well. He and his friend, the Embassy driver, had a rented garage as a talyer shop. Parts were not stolen. They were bought from the Turkish junk shops which bought up old cars for recycling. It was amazing how they were able to fix stuff. He later got a job as a building superintendent for some Catholic institutions via his wife who worked as a housekeeper there. What he quickly adapted to were the power tools that are available in DIY markets over here. He usually knew more about current events than people thought he did, speaking only to very few about it. Seen that often among former DE over here.

            Modern versions of that Manong might be ubiquitous Grab drivers of today. Or even migrant truck drivers in the Middle East or Europe. A professional driver’s license includes trucks.

            A certain minimum level of reading and writing, maybe training, is what integrates similarly more practically skilled people into factory work, craftsman shops, or even industrial food processing over here in Europe. They just are more adapted to being part of a larger machinery.

            Some groups of people here in Europe have upscaled quickly. The reputation of some Poles in the 1990s was for stealing cars and running garages that could fix nearly anything. The women often cleaned houses, overstaying their tourist status here in times when they weren’t part of Schengen yet. Some got permanent residency by marrying. Around the 2000s, many Polish men came to Germany as part of building crews. A new generation started manning BPO centers in places like Warsaw. NOW Poland is nearly at a par with Germany in many places. This shows that some people don’t want to just survive. Maybe it’s because they can’t sing like Filipinos.

          • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

            Careful, you are feeding the corporal’s spiritual connectivity theory. The medium of learning for most DEs is word of mouth, TV, radio, and cell phones. Their universe is not global, national, or even regional. It is local, and they are on the same ground as everyone. They don’t have to read big.

            • Their world might be regional, national or global in a very personal way, depending on where they have relatives that moved elsewhere for work or marriage and are either sending them money or trying to get them there. The “AFAM hunters” or romance scammers that Joey has mentioned will know exactly what to write to their, ehem, temporary providers. Of course, that is a very personal perspective of the known world, what’s in the news barely matters unless they happen to have a seaman abroad taken hostage by pirates, or an uncle beheaded in Saudi.

              Sometimes, I stumble across foreign vlogs going through Tondo or the Embos or Marikina near the spillway, and people will call out “Youtube?” or “vlogger?” to them. Seems Hey Joe is outdated. Some will ask for the name of the channel, like street vendors in one vlog I saw.

              • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                Yes, there might be some regional, national, or global inputs and influences, generally to use the uninformed. I’d guess that the prevalence is stronger in the cities than in outlying towns and villages. What is fascinating, though, is that bad information gets through, but good does not, because there are emotional, experiential, and intellectual filters that block them or distort them so they are not received as “good”. Indeed, LCX’s spiritual channels seem a better description of what goes on than a sharing of data and sense.

                • They are rational at a short-term level, aka diskarte. Financial literacy is low for that reason.

                  Diskarte

                  They will trust information from those like them but often not from well-meaning “iba.” The iba, others, can be “elitists” or “poreyner” and might even mean well and be more accurate. They will often not trust them but trust dubious people from their own circles. Some who are a bit more curious might know tidbits of stuff like that you are (allegedly, as I heard this from both a German businessman and a Filipino migrant) always at fault if a car accident happens to you in Saudi Arabia as a foreigner, since if you as an unbeliever hadn’t been there it would never have happened. Here I qualify what I heard and name two independent sources, knowing it could still be an urban legend. For them, sabi ni Kuya is enough. It could even be an AM radio Kuya.

                  Widening Philippine Horizons

                  I wrote about how the horizons of that class of Filipinos are, but also how dogmatic and rote the horizons of ostensibly more educated Filipinos can be. So it is the blind leading the blind. Or one-eyed rehashers of what international pundits write a la Heydarian are kings over there.

                  • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                    Yes, those are the filters through which good data turns bad.

                    • Well, they worked well for the people in barangays for centuries and even until just after WW2 for some. Not simply trusting someone from another “tribe” has been a mode of survival for many people as well. I recall a debate you had with an alleged Filipino artilleryman at Raissa’s blog way back about Mamasapano where he told you an artillery commander has to decide whether he trusts the information he is being radioed.

                      To “them” (“native” Filipinos), “we” (“elitist and poreyner”) are strange people who operate in a totally different world. They will, therefore, easily believe Loida Nicolas-Lewis has Illuminati like powers just because she is the widow of an African-American billionaire. They might even believe that she helped get VP Leni her Harvard engagements because there is a college there named after her husband. A Filipina who worked for the American Embassy in Bonn did extra work as a translator for the cops. Some illegals thought she was a German police snitch. Being a UP graduate and speaking better English than most made her “extra evil,” at least for some.

                      As for intuition that kb mentioned, first of all, human intuition was there before rationality and helped us survive in the wild for ages. Second, Malcolm Gladwell was accurate in observing that underdog groups have better intuition because THEY HAVE TO for survival. He gave the example of black slaves having to learn to read the moods of their masters as their lives depended on them. The more privileged need their instincts less and might lose some. Unless they are adventurers of sorts who have hung from trees in cliffs. That is funny only in comics

                      Depending too much on intuition is dangerous. Scientists and good detectives use hunches to determine what they will investigate next. The Philippine NBI at times investigates to find evidence to prove a hunch, which has become a fixed idea of what actually happened.

                      As for LCPL_X, I believe he should look for insights in Lake Buhi, Camarines Sur. On Friday the 13th of December, he must go into the water just before midnight with an upo and a kalabasa. Upo as that is how Ufo is pronounced by many Filipinos. Kalabasa is after upo in bahay kubo. Leave the veggies in the lake after midnight and return to the lake on December 15, full moon. Wash his face with lake water and look into the reflection of the moon. The truth is out there.

                • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                  “Indeed, LCX’s spiritual channels seem a better description of what goes on than a sharing of data and sense.” Joe, I’m getting the feeling that you’re understanding my hypothesis better than I am. Though I do think psychic/mystic Filipinos will be more, cuz in eskrima too there are Filipinos who have clairvoyance , sure there s telegraphing in boxing etc. but the clairvoyance spoken of in eskrima is extrasensory knowledge of say ambush etc. so kinda like the kung-fu movies from HK, and then also anting-antings, etc. that give them said powers. So in eskrima this is a thing too. ps– can you reshare the blog, Joe, but this time hash tag #UFOTwitter, I’m thinking there will be Filipinos also into UFOs. hash tag #UFOTwitterPhilippines too (don’t know if thats a thing). but yeah the Akashic realm I think is where you get DE Filipinos. how to is what I’d like more of. I think I’ll do another Inday Sara blog on this vis a vis her press conferences (just focused on spiritual realm), will probably wait for another press conference. but kb’s input is really interesting. pps– I do think theres “good” seeping thru, just not the “good” you deem is “good” , Joe. will try to include this in the next Inday Sara blog (5th one now). I do think the two press conferences, one last month and this week have totally different moods.

                  • That extrasensory knowledge might at least partly be conditioning. I have a good sense of people getting near me on the street even from behind, but that is simply having grown up in Metro Manila where one has to watch out. Eyes and ears are used differently.

                    Some stuff we do runs on autopilot, and a lot is honed by habit. Filipinos laughed about a German who fell into an open manhole in Manila in the 1970s. I found the story about a German who drove his BMW into a river as his GPS wrongly indicated a ferry as a bridge curious.

                    The point being that people who are extremely organized trust systems more while those who are less organized in the modern sense trust their senses more. Filipinos might ask one another if a plane is delayed. Germans might ask the information desk.

                    I had the not so funny experience of very promdi Pinays coming to the Embassy and telling us at the desk that they had heard from their Filipina friend about the papers required. Didn’t occur to them to call up, well understandable in a way, as they often fear “da gaberment.”

                    There might be forces beyond our ken. I tend to stick with what I know. As for anting-anting, there are stories of them being potentially dangerous, like the Rings of Power. The Lapiang Malaya political party / cult in the 1960s used anting-anting but still got shot up. May 21, 1967.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapiang_Malaya

                    As for cult followings, the Boholano Dagohoy held out with his followers in the mountains for around 8 decades. They even stayed loyal to him after he died. The male babaylan Tamblot, also from Bohol, held out for just a year.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Dagohoy

                    Some Filipinos tend to BILIB in certain people pretty firmly. Even the Negros uprising by mestizos had its cultic counterpart. Is all this grounded, or just a way of getting a grip on things? Even us trying to deduce stuff rationally is that. Our reach exceeds our grasp.

              • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                The poorer classes engage at a very personal level. Mostly I think it is having relationships based on give/take, gifter/giftee. The aspiring recipients develop ways to excessively praise others’ egos in order to soften them up so they will give something. It’s the same with the “AFAM hunters,” who know at an intuitive level what most foreign men want. Mostly that involves excessively flattery, playing to personal masculine ego, and of course, the more base things. For the AFAM hunters who found a gem and decide to “retire,” it’s almost like they continue to stroke the man’s ego in order to have him become a busy worker bee. Slightly offensive to some to discuss, but that’s just the reality of things.

                “Hey Joe” is still prevalent in Cebu and Mindanao. Not so much in NCR anymore. Interesting you brought up the vlogs. I’ve also been asked by Filipinos on the street if I’m a vlogger or what’s my YouTube channel. Most of it seems to be that they want a shoutout, so they can show their friends/family they appeared online… there is an eagerness for even a brief moment of fame… strange since they can just upload their own videos. Tondo, Embos and Marikina have transformed greatly. I haven’t had much time to visit in recent years, but on brief passthroughs Tondo especially has been somewhat gentrified, as is Marikina. Some of my memories of assisting shanty dwellers in Tondo are but memories, as their homes have been cleared for developments.

                • The Tondo vlogs I saw were all in Happyland and post-pandemic, come to think, so that might be one of the last pockets, just like Marikina Manggahan spillway. Embo vlogs usually show old houses and lots for sale..

                  “They can just upload their own videos” – being mentioned by a Westerner is added prestige. I see that also in how Filipino fandoms oscillate between eagerly following Western YouTube reactors who mention their stars – and calling them Pinoybaiters.

                  As for AFAM hunters, the instinct of knowing what the “puti” wants has been honed since the days of Padre Damaso. Unfortunately, the state of dependency remains, there is no “level up.”

                  • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                    Yeah the informal settlers are pushed out slowly over the years as the landowners exercised land titles to build developments. Most moved to the margins. In other Philippine islands they might be pushed towards the mountains or rivers, but there aren’t as many rivers in NCR as let’s say Cebu which has countless rivers. It’s a bit sad since the places you mentioned are my oldest haunts from my early days.

                    Well from knowing the DE classes somewhat, the young men asking to receive a shoutout is because they will later share the video with their friends. It’s sort of like a neighborhood fame, even if it’s for a moment. Funny about the YouTube reaction videos. I’d consider those channels low brow, but Filipinos seem to really love the recognition. I find it similar to sometimes desperate searching for recognition in Western stars who have minuscule amounts of Pinoy blood. What I find more interesting is there isn’t the same pride for diaspora Filipinos who have achieved positions of power, like our CA Attorney General Rob Bonta who may well become the next governor of a state that if California was a country would be the 4th highest GDP in the world. Rob Bonta is very engaged with the Fil-Am community and honors his roots. I’m not sure if any of the stars Filipinos identified with even care about the Philippines. Then again I reviewed candidates in the upcoming election and there are many candidates with the job title “Actor” 😕

                    I’ve met quite a few AFAM hunters. Sad to say, no matter how much money they gather from foreigners, all the money goes “poof” as the women tend to be supporting lazy local boyfriends, spreading the money around their family and friends for fame and prestige. Once they hit their mid 30s can’t attract as many “donations,” their life usually reverts to what it was before…

                    • Well, many YT reactors are basically jobless people trying to monetize. Though the pandemic did create channels like the one of Waleska Herrera, a singer from Venezuela living in London who was out of gigs and managed to parlay her musical knowledge plus the humor of her younger brother Efra into a channel catering to Indian music, KPop, Indonesian music and OPM/PPop. They actually researched Tawag ng Tanghalan way back to Nora Aunor, winning it and interviewed the likes of Pilita Corrales, Gary Valenciano, and Morissette Amon. They aren’t music professors but probably have more public info on Filipino entertainment from the 1960s until now than UP College of Music and UP College of Mass Communication combined. I took a break from politics by checking out some teleseryes – and Filipino music now going global.
                      Joe also has been through the cycle of being liked and being seen as super credible because American and being hated for the same reason, especially for his stance on the Jennifer Laude case. There are nationalist historians (not Dr. Xiao) who will not share my articles here due to Joe as they can’t forgive the Laude era of this blog. Looking at role models, my article about SB19 might seem cheesy at first, but at least I am emphasizing how they earned fame through perseverance and hard work. One doesn’t have to like their music or see Pablo as potential President as Dr. Xiao Chua does, the trigger for my article. Might be my articles on music were clutching at straws. Anyhow, a Philippines less dependent on external validation and more respectful of hard work than mere luck or stardom is a hope that remains. A REMOTE hope.
                      I have seen your comment on YT podcasts. Yes, some are truly awful. Some are made by apparently jobless academics like Metatron, who studied Orientalism (a real subject in Italy, history plus linguistics) in the Naples Institute where my father taught for two years in the 80s. Unfortunately, he went on the trip of attacking historically inaccurate films such as Cleopatra and recently has gone too political, even as I know that fans of Rome are often right-wing. The Eastern European fan of late Rome, Maiorianus, is fun to watch but is too fixated on one topic. Kings and Generals seems to be a good site, looks quite accurate, something to listen to while cleaning my place. Knowledgia has turned out to be sloppy, so I skip it. Jordan Peterson and his critics totally bore me. Anti-woke film critics like The Critical Drinker were fun for a while.

                    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                      The attorney who defended Pemberton is one of my most loyal followers on Twitter. She uplifts me with every like she puts down, and there’s a lot of them. Harry Roque, of course, was the Laude family’s attorney. He basically used them to gain attention to attack the VFA and make a name for himself. He was a scoundrel back then and went on to become a criminal scoundrel, evidently, complicit in the Alice Guo affair. If the IBP had disbarred him for sending Laude’s German boyfriend over the jailhouse fence, they’da saved Roque a lot of trouble. Bunch of wusses.

                      If Laude’s camp is angry at you for my positions, well, that rather shows their fundamentally stubborn, unreasonable, and near-cruel demeanor. They are 100 percenters of the most extreme kind, unable to comprehend that others have a context that does not react well to a girl who shows up in bed with equipment.

                    • Not Laude’s camp and not angry. Just Twitter mutuals (!) who refused to share some of my Going Home articles just because they are on your blog.

                      Definitely OA, and because they stated that as Filipinos, they couldn’t accept an American having such an opinion ( I don’t recall the exact text. It was 4 years ago) definitely also what Germans call thousand percenters. I distanced myself from them after that.

                      Just remembered that incident because of the convo with Joey and all.

                    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                      Ah, well. Yes, let them be. What is interesting is that I get very little pushback these days based on the idea that I have no standing because I’m an American. It only comes from newbies. I credit President Aquino for putting a stamp “authorized” on my forehead.

                    • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                      It could be that certain non-academics are more plugged into what’s going on than the actual academics. That’s a common problem for academia if they stay within the walls of their institution, and from what I’ve seen, a major factor in Filipinos in general not taking Filipino academics seriously.

                      Then again, the divide between Philippine academia and the general public seems to be a symptom of the problem. The two are on different wavelengths so to speak, and they rarely if ever cross each other. It seemed to me talking to students in NCR during my time there that there is still a nationalistic bent to Philippine academia, which personally I feel is highly detrimental to the discourse. Even with academics there appears to be a strain of attempting to justify and find validating “facts” of former Filipino greatness, where the focus should be on building a new future on an expanded meaning of what it means to be “Filipino” that is inclusive. The Tagalog-centering probably doesn’t help either.

                      On the YouTube podcasts, to clarify I meant channels like Jordan Peterson, Tim Pool, and adjacents like Joe Rogan, or worse the “manosphere.” These people seem to be able to talk endlessly about things they don’t know anything about, sometimes for hours. Normally we’d be able to dismiss them as idiots sitting around a bonfire sharing a beer and shooting the shit, but there is a large segment of young men nowadays who are strongly drawn to this type of quasi-relationship. There is a big epidemic of “male loneliness” in our modern world which these grifters fill up by making boys and young men feel like they are the best buddy of the audience. Of course there are some issues such as the social media-fication that has turned reality into sort of a dating app that doesn’t foster real relationships and doesn’t prepare young men how to handle rejection. At least in the West, GenX generally coddling their GenZ children didn’t help either. I always say to these young boys if they are open to mentorship that they should begin by asking themselves why no one wants to be their friend, and to reflect on their own narcissistic behavior that wants life to be on easy-mode in their twisted view of patriarchy. Of course, recently it was found out that a lot of these podcasters were funded by Russia either directly or indirectly.

                      Which brings us to the incredibly dangerous point that Russia (and to an extent, the PRC) have been funding anti-Western agitprop since the early Cold War. The Russians used to need to create fake newspapers and seed stories/agents, which cost a lot of money and risked finding out. Nowadays they can do the same agitprop seeding by doing a social media campaign and funding a few key “super spreaders.” The Philippines is of interest to me because as a (generally) English-speaking nation, the Russians did tested the strategy first in the Philippines in the lead up to the 2016 election, which they then repeated months later in the US 2016 election. The PRC has learned the playbook and have since engaged in hybrid warfare with SEA nations, especially the Philippines.

                      Connecting to the Jennifer Laude case, even though clearly Pemberton had at least some culpability, I was very dismayed (or maybe I should not have been) to see Makabayan and Gabriela push the anti-US message loudly to the point of stirring up Filipinos into a lynch mob. Guilt or not, Pemberton deserved a fair trial where the evidence is presented fully to determine guilt and the level of culpability. Personally, I’ve had my run-ins with the Philippine trans community and I find many of them to be extremely aggressive, lewd, offensive even compared to Western transpeople of whom I have friends among. Just like Filipino “traditions” like touching a child’s genitals as a “joke,” my experience with the Filipino trans community was that they often did not take no as an answer and regularly did not disclose the fact that they were trans. That is not to say that Jennifer Laude deserved to be killed, or to dismiss rumors that Pemberton “knew what he was getting into.” Even to this day, some Filipinos will regularly bring up the Laude case as a justification for anti-US comments, even if they personally hate trans people so perhaps Jennifer Laude was both a victim in life, and a victim in death by two different perpetrators. Interesting that Makabayan tends to not protest against the PRC and the WPS encroachment though, nor does Makabayan protest against other nationalities that commit heinous crimes against Filipinos. My distaste for Makabayan is wide and deep.

                      By the way, Kings and Generals is mostly accurate and the animation is entertaining. I consume a lot of tech, geopolitical, war and history content. The WarZone, Task and Purpose, are some of my favorite channels for military topics. Voices of the Past is similar to Kings and Generals but they focus on narrating stories throughout history.

                    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

                      I agree with the “aggressive” tag. I’d say nasty, which I find odd since they seek understanding and compassion but deal in venom.

                    • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                      A simple respect of personal boundaries and treating others decently the way they want to be recognized would be a start. Too often in the Philippines bad behavior of all sorts is passed off as a “joke,” where the victim is mocked for not accepting the bad behavior since they can’t “take a joke.”

        • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

          I’ll clarify that the reason why I don’t listen to long-form podcasts/video podcasts is that the most popular long-form podcasters have nothing of interest to offer me. They are just a bunch of unknowledgeable mean sitting around talking about increasingly outlandish things that they have no expertise in. A lot of the more popular ones started off as “leftists” who went full MAGA, then were all exposed as being on the Kremlin payroll recently which is more reason not to listen. I do watch/listen to some quite long podcasts, but mostly about history or technical subjects.

          As for the DE folks, many of who are illiterate… they are quite receptive to someone showing them/talking to them directly. One must remember that many of these folks only receive outreach literally once every 3 years when their vote is being bought, then ignored until the next midterm/general election. So if they are so receptive to occasional outreach, imagine how much more receptive they would be to changing their views with more consistent outreach. This is also why quite a few DE’s are moving towards non-Catholic churches like born again pastors. The Catholic Church does a lot of good work, some of which I was glad to be a part of, but it’s just impossible to engage with and help everyone. Whereas these grifty born again “pastors” are constantly engaging with the poor to recruit them into the churches, then fleece the new churchgoers of the little money they have. Yet the converts willingly give over their money since they feel a “personal” relationship with the pastor… even if he’s driving a Benz/BMW/SUV and maybe even has a private jet. That’s how Quiboloy got so powerful.

          So what can a party of change do? They must have outreach teams on the ground constantly, even outside of election years. The outreach teams should be the eyes and ears of the party that listens/observes the needs of the people. If the outreach teams are salaried this would cost a lot of money, but there can also be part-time outreach team volunteers as well. But therein is the other problem is that to recruit/maintain volunteers, the party needs to have a vision and be able to maintain the vision. And just like miracles, more and more people believe in the political vision if they start to notice that some parts of it is coming true.

          • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

            “The Catholic Church does a lot of good work, some of which I was glad to be a part of, but it’s just impossible to engage with and help everyone.”

            I think Catholic church has a rich tradition of saints and poverty. Which doesn’t seem to register with Catholics in general. Mo Salah, from Egypt, played for Liverpool was rags to riches, but never did get into the riches cuz he ended up giving much of his earnings back to his village. he’s chosen to live very simply allowing for more philanthropy in his life. I wonder if theres Filipinos, and this related to Ireneo’s OA, who’re like Mohammed Salah. he’s the Pepe Mujica of soccer:

            https://theconversation.com/the-mohamed-salah-effect-is-real-my-research-shows-how-he-inspires-egyptian-youth-97220

            “Despite his fame, Salah has maintained a close relationship with his family, neighbours and friends in Nagrig. He nurtures this relationship by supporting various development projects in his village, ranging from youth centres to schools and hospitals; and more recently a water and sewage station.

            At the national level, Salah donated £210,000 to Tahya Misr (“Long live Egypt”) – a fund established to support developmental efforts following the January 2011 uprising . For Egyptian youth, Salah’s gratitude and humbleness are the traits they admire the most. In the age of brain drain, when as many as 10m Egyptians live abroad, Salah conveys a lesson to Egypt’s migrant youth that they can serve their country – even from abroad.

            At a time when Egyptian society is divided, Salah unites not only Egyptian, but also Arab and Muslim youth, too. For years, young people in the Middle East have been stereotyped as either terrorists or refugees. So although they mobilised at an unprecedented level during the Arab Spring uprisings, these days frustrated young Egyptians are more likely to become depoliticised, pragmatic or radicalised.

            What’s more, as a moderate Muslim, Salah provides a new path for frustrated young people to follow. He performs prostration after each goal, fasts in Ramadan, regularly reads the Koran and named his daughter, Makka, after Islam’s holiest city. The image he conveys of a moderate, tolerant Muslim not only challenges the dominant stereotypes about Arab youth, but encourages them to accept each other’s differences and unite behind a single Muslim identity – evident in chants sung by Liverpool fans, such as “I’ll be Muslim too” and “Mohamed Salah, a Gift from Allah”. “

            • There is Manny Pacquiao, whose helping the people as a philanthropist WAS recognized even by Atty. Leni, even as she kept quiet about his politics as such.

              What is interesting is how SB19’s leader (and composer, and CEO of the 1Z entertainment company the “boys” recently founded) Pablo, who recently turned 30, is acting as a “kuya” by giving life advice to young people on goals (video below has English captions):

              He has the streak of madness some artists (or startup founders like he also is) have, so I don’t see him as a potential President. Not all who help have to be politicians. Aiah (from Mactan) of the girl group BINI also helps the poor – video below. Her fans call her “Mama Mary.”

              • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

                thanks, Ireneo. was also thinking about archetypes and where these folks fit in. Jung’s and 4th Turning.

              • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

                I respect Pacquiao for staying humble (in terms of hambog with money) and giving direct help to the poor, but he is a terrible politician. It seemed to me that while Pacquiao is humble in terms of his roots and spending habits, he is definitely not humble in trying to “checkbox” achievements. I often thought of asking the former Senator, that was the the purpose of becoming a Congressman and then Senator, possibly even a Presidential aspirant, when he was basically absent the entire time attending his bouts. To which I would point out to the Senator that what would be more helpful to the poor he clearly has deep love and affection for, being more serious about his Congressional/Senate work to affect broad change, or to hand out money to the poor here and there? Every human has an ego, some more outsized than others. It’s how we use our ego to shape the world we can touch for the greater good that matters. As a high official Pacquiao certainly had the power to be a changemaker, yet as usual for the Philippines, the power was squandered.

            • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

              Well the simple answer on why Filipino Catholics (or “religious” people for that matter) can’t register the rich tradition of saints and poverty is that “it’s hard.” A small sliver of the population wants to give up niceties in order to fully serve others; for most the human nature is to hoard more resources towards one’s self, family, or clan. Of course, Leni is as saintly as they come and she didn’t win in the end in 2022.

          • Hmm.. I have seen good and bad YT channels even as most are so-so, but I also have enormous skepticism when it comes to most Twitter pundits. One can learn from them but always has to be perceptive of their agenda.

            Unfortunately same with many books. Writers like Malcolm Gladwell, Nicholas Nassim Taleb or Stephen Pinker have disappointed me to some extent. I miss the days of evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould or Isaac Asimov as a popular science author. They were on solid ground.

            Currently reading David Abulafia books. As maritime stuff is important, and he is a grounded expert on the world’s seas. On hiatus from Philippine history stuff as I felt saturated with it.

            • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

              Part of the process of disappointment is when a respected person gets “out of their wheelhouse,” to use an American idiom. Sometimes a measure of fame leads one to think one is more capable or knowledgeable than one really is, and thus adopt the “omni-cause” or “omni-knowledge.” Sure they will still have their fans, but most free-thinking people will start to question the motives once this happens.

              My Twitter follow list is quite small for my account’s age. I had to unfollow quite a few accounts during this year’s meltdown of formerly respected people over the “Biden dementia” thing, which ironically turned out that Biden is completely fine just old, and Trump is the one who has increasing signs of decrepitness.

              When I feel overwhelmed, nature/science documentaries always re-center my mind. I especially enjoy space stuff and explorations of nature.

  11. Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

    Slightly OT:
    A bit frustrated today after a conversation on politics with a friend back in the Philippines, then saw Joe’s Twitter post re: Fil-Ams who have confused political beliefs.

    I think one of the biggest impediments to building a unified “good guys” political party in the Philippines is the penchant for Filipinos to have rather “syncretic” beliefs. Often this is exemplified by for example: Free de Lima supporter BUT ALSO IS a Trump supporter, or vice versa with ANTI Leni BUT ALSO IS a Harris supporter. There are other ways, such as espousing Maoist/NPA talking points while also being anti-China.

    Some may point to the Spanish Jesuit habit of creating syncretic versions of Catholicism to more easily convert local colonized populations, but I think it goes back further than that as the various Philippines ethnic groups have created a syncretism of multiple cultural influences whether it be inter-tribal influences, Tamil Chola, Malay Srivijayan and Majapahit, Arab, Hakka, Hokkien, Spanish then American.

    Philippines politics being more along the lines of temporary dynastic alignments/alliances often doesn’t really stand for something, which probably further confuses the meaning of what politics is to a Filipino. I continue to remain cynical that any “good guys” political party can really have an effect based on messages alone. There has to be some way to build influence and power outside of having elected power. It seems difficult to break into elected power without being a base first, and 6 years of holding the Executive is too short to accomplish major goals. Indeed by the end of a Presidency, assuming good policies were enacted, the policies would barely start coming into fruition. Of course, being anti-authoritarianism, the only alternative to maintaining political power is to build a power base outside of office.

    • The power base of yellow from 1986-2001 was according to MLQ3 the old middle class together with the masa, and most of what was still left of the old middle class (not yet migrated) was very disaffected with the masa by EDSA3.

      I see PNoy’s term as an anomaly, a nostalgic harkening back to 1986 dreams in a country no longer able to fulfill them. What might happen when the present 1972 dreams Revival dies down and inevitable disappointment sets in is a 2016 nightmares Revival.

      As Joe said, the Philippines is one good President away from progress. You, I think, said it might be one bad President away from ruin. 2028 might be a make or break year, and 2025 sets the tone, so let us see. Maybe try to win the new middle class? At least substantial parts of it?

      • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

        A lot of Filipino boomer parents of my high school classmates were of the old middle class who either left during Martial Law or were disillusioned following EDSA I. I also noticed more Filipino middle class immigrants with advanced degrees (Masters, PhD, MD, etc) that arrived in the US during my university years after EDSA II/III. Imagine the immense brain drain on the Philippines that occurred in that generation. Their children are all first generation Americans now (immigrated during childhood) and most have no desire to go back to build the nation.

        I’m a bit more cynical than Joe due to my greater interaction with the DE classes, though it’s important to make a distinction between cynicism and pessimism. I’d describe myself as a cynical optimist compared to Joe’s more pure optimism. Perhaps my worldview is shaped by the era I came of age in, as the early years were marked by the chaos of the 1980s US punctuated by recession cycles at important points in the Millennial generation, compared to the relative “plenty” of what Baby Boomers grew up with.

        So you’re right my fear is that the Philippines is teetering one bad President away from total ruin, while on the flip side it would be impossible for any single Presidential term to correct the decades of rot that started since the Marcos Sr. era, further reinforcing feelings of defeatism and pessimism in the majority of Filipinos, that is to say the DE classes. By the way, it has been widely observed by Left-leaning political scientists and political psychologists/sociologists that pessimism is one of the major tools that the minority wields to control the majority. By making people feel that their efforts have no effect, that all is useless, people go back to their base behavior which is to attempt to hoard more benefits towards themselves rather than believing in the communal good of nation building. This is reflected in the US and the Philippines a bit differently, with the US’s minority being the billionaire class who benefited from social projects to become rich and the Philippines minority being the dynastic political machines. Either way the effect it has on the population is similar. There are similar threads to be pulled also, such as the dumbing down of education to remove upward mobility and social agency, creating feelings of scarcity as to divide the population’s common interests, splitting people into warring tribes with manufactured culture war issues and so on.

        Increasingly I believe the only way to solve the Philippine socioeconomic problems is to start building a party that continues engagement outside of election years. It would be similar to how NGOs and religious groups constantly engage with their clients or supplicants. It would require a great degree of organization and funding, which I’m unsure of where that would come from. The organization and funding problems with respect to the Philippines is often hand-in-hand. The obvious leadership would come from Filipinos abroad who have learned the skills and better habits they can apply back to the Philippines, and believe in a better future for the mother country, but I fear as time creates more distance from 1986 people are starting to give up.

        This YouTube is worth a watch if you have time. It’s an interview in the American context by an author I respect, Thom Hartmann.

        Here’s a review of his book “The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy” where he explains his theory on the cyclical nature of American politics.

        https://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2004/07/fourth-turning-american-prophecy

        “In each 80 year period, there are four turnings, produced by each of the four generations. The Fourth Turning is the one of greatest danger, maximum impact upon the world. And it’s due to happen any day now — if it’s not already underway.”

        Hartmann theorizes that each generation handing over control to the next generation is called “turning,” and the themes of each generation are predictable over a 80 year cycle of 4 generations, each generation being about 20 years long. At the end of the 80 year cycle is the point of greatest danger, which he surmises explains the threat against the American Republic by Trump and his sycophants. But if a society survives, the renewal of the cycle also has its greatest effect to the subsequent cycle… in Hartmann’s theory, American Millennials will be those holding power to reshape the US for the better.

        I would simplify Hartmann’s theory of the Philippines into having 40 year cycles of 2 generations instead of his 80 year cycle for the US. 40 years subtracted from 2024 is 1984, which lines up roughly with the last major upheaval of EDSA in 1986. 1986 was the greatest chance for societal shift and sadly that project failed. We are coming up on another chance for societal shift soon, if Filipino Millennials want to seize their destiny to reshape the nation.

        • There is something similar to the cycles you mentioned (will watch the video later) by MLQ3: https://www.quezon.ph/2014/03/07/to-the-manner-born/

          He defines 8 Filipino generations from Revolution to now by the events that shaped them in their youth. Re middle class, I just found this old article by Joe:

          The Middle Class Megaphone

          • Joey Nguyen's avatar Joey Nguyen says:

            Apologies, “The Fourth Turning” was by William Strauss and Neil Howe. Thom Hartmann is one of the disciples of the theory and one of the most effective communicators of it.

            Glad to see that MLQ III had picked up on the idea as well. I had not noticed that old blog post as I mostly read MLQ III’s opinion pieces on The Inquirer. MLQ III’s correlation of generations in the Philippines with the “Fourth Turning” theory matches with my earlier observations that the Filipino Millennials will end up with the chance to “fix” the nation. I however would still simplify the Four Turns in the Philippine context to just two turns, or two turns each with two halves.

    • kasambahay's avatar kasambahay says:

      it’s good that they are concerned about inday. I think, the only person who can forced her to undergo psyche assessment is her next of kin, her hubby. but if hubby thinks all is okay, then all is okay.

      given time, inday will probly cool off and feel remorseful. that’s what normal people do. but if inday continues on with the tirade in the same intensity for more than 4 days, then that is a cause for concern. she can be made involuntary patient and taken to a mental health facility; her consent is not needed. she may still have her rights but her freedom will be temporarily suspended pending on psyche eval. the police are the best people to take her in, they outrank her personal security guards who may pull their guns on anyone that may harm inday. police have 24hrs to keep inday, she must be psyche evaluated within that time by a psychiatrist, or she goes free.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        In the press conference, even though she said all that about exhuming their dad’s body, Inday Sara still qualified it with Imee Marcos is a straight shooter, she means what she says and says what she means, or something to that effect. I’m thinking this is moro-moro, kb.

        the two imageries Inday Sara employed will demand PBBM’s reaction for sure.

  12. LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

    thanks, Joe. junior high me would get a kick out of these two photos. Communion i read first, then got into X-files.

    But I bring up Strieber cuz I guess when he first published said book in the late 80s, he ended up having a bunch of fan mails, lots of thanks for writing the book, I enjoyed reading, etc. but there were plenty more recounting their own abduction stories. Strieber recounts wanting to throw them away. too much for him. his wife volunteered to read them all. eventually they surrendered the letters to Rice University in Houston TX where they now reside as part of the http://archives.library.rice.edu/repositories/2/resources/1124 Anne and Whitley Strieber Collection. I caught this trivia recently watching a recent interview of him.

    Which got me thinking. Can we task Karl (Chief Librarian) and Ireneo (Chief Historian) with maybe approaching Vincent Rafael at UW if he’d be interested in pursuing the establishment of a joeam.com Collection. I’d do it myself but am just an avatar from the 5th dimension so will not be able to interface with Prof. Rafael directly. i’d think also Univ. Hawaii at Manoa might also be open to include even UC Berkeley (don’t know if Joey would know folks still).

    Cuz I’m really super fired up now vis a vis 2028 and Inday Sara, Joe.

    finally , got a translator to sit thru the press con video with me. I guess the context of said press con was that PBBM said something like I was deceived by her I thought she was my friend, which really set her off like mofo you’re that one that threw me under the bus for all these wolves to come take bites at me. thus setting up the race to 2028. try-door, as Mango ave. girls would say. I gotta feeling Imee gave her the go ahead to say that about their dad, and she’ll probably go silent. wherein PBBM would be forced to say something in response– which doesn’t have to be spoken, could just be lets get this impeachment rolling then, biatch!

    Joe’s still looking for the opposition, may find it in Makabayan bloc re his and Joey’s convo, me am pretty serious about this coven I’m forming in my mind (and defending it), Ireneo’s onto something i’m sure re entertainment, gian’s trajectory seems perfectly aligned with Joey’s expertise. So we can totally convince, Prof. Rafael that the blog is positioned perfectly right now for 2025, but most important 2028. gotta feeling everyones fired up, for sure I am now.

    Heyderian’s saying wheres the method to the madness, and positting maybe the madness is the method. but I agree with him, Inday Sara doesn’t have the charisma needed to pull this off. The China vs. USA aspect to this too has to be tackled.

    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

      I think such an initiative would be awkward so won’t endorse it over. If I were more ambitious, I’d go back through the articles and comments here and craft a book, not in time sequence, but in subject sequence, that would peel the Philippines open like the big banana of Asia that it is.

  13. felix zamar jr's avatar felix zamar jr says:

    weird article, hard to digest, hard to discern, difficult to relate cognitively sans supernatural or ethereal diatabs to connect with

    • JoeAm's avatar JoeAm says:

      Good of you to take a stab at it, felix. I agree it is a challenge. My own reaction was halfway between amusement and intrigued, because there are dimensions we haven’t figured out yet.

      • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

        thanks for reading either way, felix. This was a good watch (might be related):

        from the channel: “Discover the profound insights of Carl Jung’s puer aeternus—the “eternal boy” or “man-child” archetype that symbolizes the adult who clings to youthful ideals, resisting the transition into maturity. In this in-depth exploration, we delve into Jungian psychology to understand how the puer aeternus manifests in modern life, influencing personal development, relationships, and societal dynamics. From ancient mythology and the revered child-god Iacchus to contemporary figures like Peter Pan and Neo from The Matrix, we trace the journey of the eternal youth archetype through time, but also learn directly from Carl Jung’s own words, offering profound insights into the psyche. We also bring exclusive content from Jung’s serene retreat in Bollingen, Switzerland, where he built the famous tower that symbolizes his personal journey of individuation and self-discovery. Jung’s time in Bollingen provides a unique glimpse into his reflective process and connection to the puer aeternus archetype, offering viewers a rare look into the space where he lived and worked.

        • inventivefox07133956c2's avatar inventivefox07133956c2 says:

          i find it disturbing linking Leni with the harpies daughters of the mass killer goon from davao and the world class plunderer of the north with some out of this world phenomena or spooky powers. Hard to add them up and find some common denominator linking them to the future politics of PI. I see Leni thriving in the local politics of bicol but sad to say, she would remain the TOTGA and indeed a big loss to big time politics at the national level. She would be like Salonga, Roco, Roxas who could have done great deeds to raise the stature of the Philippines as a competitive economic power in Asia with good governance and sound business practices that could have attracted more investors in PI, if only they were elected as Presidents.

          • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

            I think Imee, Leni, Sara are already talking to each other, Risa eventually will come around i think cuz she’s also being used. D5 I think can see the big picture forming and will let by gones be by gones.

            The Marcos machine is the problem, felix. All 5 women will have to stop it. but this is big picture stuff, divination really, you want to really get into the weeds you’ll tackle what gian in the current blog is attempting to accomplish. w/out politics or politicians. can Filipinos fix this themselves, that’s the question.

            Independence from Filipino politics.

    • LCPL_X's avatar LCPL_X says:

      consider this first, felix, before delving into the politics of said blog:

  14. inventivefox07133956c2's avatar inventivefox07133956c2 says:

    similar to the surreal dream of Jon Stewart

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