Banking in the Philippines, Part I: The fundamentals

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A nation’s banking system is fundamental to a healthy and properly functioning economy. Banks are the middlemen among suppliers and users of funds, and when they go broke, there’s hell to pay. We should understand the Philippine banking system, how it works, and what its strengths and weaknesses are.

This will be a series of blogs. By educating myself in this public forum you may track along with me and decide if it all makes sense. If it does not, I presume you will offer up a little guidance.

We’ll start by seeing what information is available at the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas web site, then proceed on to examine specific components of the banking system including individual universal banks and micro-finance programs. The project will take several months to complete.

The types of banks

BSP organizes its regulatory functions to monitor and regulate four different types of banking institutions:

Universal and commercial banks. This is the core of the banking system. Full-service banks accept deposits, make loans and provide fee-based services. Universal banks also provide investment banking functions.

Thrift banking system. Savings and mortgage banks, private development banks, stock savings and loan associations and microfinance thrift banks. Specialized institutions that help small and medium enterprises and individuals with working capital and business products.

Rural and cooperative banks. Small local institutions that mainly assist farmers during the farming cycle of planting to getting goods to market. Rural banks and cooperative banks differ by ownership. Rural banks are privately owned and managed; cooperative banks are organized and owned by cooperatives.

Non-banks with quasi-banking systems. Institutions that borrow funds from 20 or more lenders for the purposes of relending or purchasing receivables and other obligations.

Regulation of non-banking functions such as trust companies and pawn shops also falls within the jurisdiction of the BSP. We will attend to those activities after we are done with banks and quasi-banks.

Economic need and economic risk

The banking regulatory system essentially evolved to satisfy the specialized needs of different market groups: private individuals wanting to lend money, cooperatives in the farming areas needing loans, and major banks wheeling and dealing in international markets. Market needs drove the regulations, not the other way around. Regulations are a rats nest of particulars that we will shy away from except as need warrants.

Economic risk is driven by the question of “what happens if a group of institutions goes bankrupt”, which leads to the further question of “where are the risks that might drive an important set of institutions bankrupt”? We will eventually conduct our own stress test of the most important institutions.

For now, let’s start with a profile of the number of institutions, offices and assets held by banks and quasi-banks. It is important to understand that banks are inverse institutions. A loan for a bank is an asset on the balance sheet and a deposit is a liability (customers can demand the return of their money at any time). So when we look at assets, the bulk of it is loans outstanding:

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Well, we can see that the concentration of risk and economic power rests in three types of institutions. About 97% of all assets are held by universal banks (80.8%), commercial banks (7.8%) and thrift banks (8.0%).

Given that such a huge concentration of assets (and risk) is assigned to only 21 institutions – the universal banks – we ought to be able to spot individual banks that pose the greatest risk . . . or capacity for service if they are well run. Let’s place that on our “ToDo List”.

Other interesting notes that pop up from this profile are:

  • If there are only 70 thrifts, which include micro-finance institutions, there can’t be very many official micro-finance lenders. There is likely some (a great deal?) of out-of-regulation lending going on by private individuals. The unregulated market requires special examination.
  • Pawn shops and their brother-in-service, payday loans (borrowing against a future paycheck), are considered ethically challenged by many in the US, as they seem to take advantage of the most vulnerable people (those who are poor and lacking in financial education) with the most outrageous of interest rates. Yet, in the Philippines, these institutions serve the “great unbanked” population. They are an accepted part of the financial set of intermediaries between lenders and borrowers of funds. This also deserves future inquiry.
  • We’ll have to identify the four offshore banking units and discover what they do.
  • There are a lot of banking institutions. Thrift and rural banks will become increasingly un-economic as labor costs rise, and will merge. There are also likely to be further mergers among universal and commercial banks, especially as ASEAN integration proceeds. We’re likely to see foreign banks acquiring Philippine institutions.

As a first step, let’s examine that 80% set of 21 universal banks, as an aggregate, to see what their financials look like.

The balance sheet basics of universal banks

The 21 universal banks have assets of almost 10 trillion pesos, or roughly 500 billion each. Here is the composition of assets:

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Debt securities represent over 20% of all earning assets. These are sourced via financial markets and, assuming many are Philippine government issue, then are as safe as the Philippines (low risk), and they earn commensurately lower rates. Another 5.8 trillion are loans requiring an individual assessment of the borrower and carry risks at three levels: the economy, the specific industry, and the individual borrower. These assets earn at higher rates, and we will explore this as we dig deeper. For now, let’s note some take-aways:

  • The “production loans”, which in the US would be called commercial and real estate loans, fairly well mirror the main components of the economy, which these banks fund. Real estate, manufacturing, and wholesale/retail trade are the most prominent “industries” supported by bank loans.
  • Loans for household consumption are a small part of all lending done, reflecting the nation’s lack of credit infrastructure (credit rating agencies) or well-paying jobs that can support generous borrowing.
  • Lending is pretty well diversified, as an aggregate portfolio, and when we examine individual banks, we can look to see if their portfolios hold any undue concentrations, such as real estate lending, that might leave them vulnerable to industry risk. We will also look at loan loss experience.

The deposits which fund these lending activities are sourced through domestic branch deposits.

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The Philippines is a cash society and banks benefit from holding that cash for customers at interest rates that, for now, give banks nearly a zero-interest cost of funds.

Summary

We’ve learned that 21 universal banks represent the heart of the economy’s money intermediary function. They hold 80% of all financial assets, with the bulk of the assets being loans to businesses. Loans as an aggregate portfolio are well diversified. Funding is by domestic deposits.

Here is a checklist of future topics to be addressed:

  • Income performance, performance ratios, and loan risk for universal banks
  • Examination of selected universal bank financials
  • Understanding “grass roots” banking: microfinance, pawn shops and payday loans

[Note: readers have pointed out that there are errors in the table arithmetic (see discussion thread). I believe these are not material to the lessons drawn and will leave them in the paper as an exercise in discipline, looking for the forest and not obsessing over the trees. If the conclusions or lessons drawn are incorrect, kindly let me and readers know in the discussion thread. If you wish to know the precise numbers, refer to the BSP web site (link provided early in the text).  Put another way, I did this exercise for myself, shared it with readers, and have moved on down the road. I don’t care about the arithmetic, but the size and shape of banking in the Philippines.]

 

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211 Responses to “Banking in the Philippines, Part I: The fundamentals”
  1. karl garcia says:

    Let me add Central Banking in the Philippines

    http://dirp3.pids.gov.ph/ris/dps/pidsdps0210.pdf

  2. http://www.hss.de/southeastasia/en/philippines/our-work-in-the-philippines/micro-finance-and-micro-enterprise-development.html – small item to add in the microfinance area:

    In pursuit of HSF’s commitment to help contribute to poverty reduction in the country, HSF embarked on a pioneering program in 2008 to provide support to the microfinance sector in the Philippines. In partnership with the PinoyME Consortium (PinoyME) and the Ninoy and Cory Aquino Foundation (NCAF), and with the support of the Microfinance Council of the Philippines (MCPI), the “Microfinance Capacity Building Program” was jointly initiated. The purpose of the Program is to develop the capacity of microfinance institutions (MFIs) to enhance access of marginal sectors to innovative products, markets and services. The program has 4 components: i) curriculum development and standardization for MFI personnel; ii) organization of a training faculty for microfinance courses; iii) research and development for new microfinance loan products and services; and iv) organization/ networking of training institutions/service providers for micro-enterprise development.

    The Program implementers, together with microfinance industry (MFI) partners and the academe, focus their efforts in completing the requirements for the full implementation of the Dual Training System (DTS) Competency-based Curriculum (CBC) for the Microfinance Sector. The Program has two offerings namely, one-year training under the Technical Education and Skills Development Authority (TESDA), and a 4-year ladderized degree program under the Commission on Higher Education (CHED). Both, the short-one-year training and the 4-year ladderized degree program, adopt the Dual Training System (DTS) through a standardized competency-focused learning process. The Program addresses the lack of entry-level loan officers (frontline staff) needed by the MFIs for their expansion. It provides an option for those who are interested to build their career in the microfinance sector, as well as for those currently employed, to continue their studies and earn a degree while working with an MFI. The DTS-CBC for Microfinance will follow the career path of the loan officer to higher positions. The pilot program is being offered by three schools (located in the provinces), which will run the initial 2-year Associate Course (certificate) in Microfinance for loan officers (in-school), and the MFIs based in these areas will provide the on-the-job training (in-plant). Those interested on further studies can proceed to the 3-year Diploma Course in Microfinance up to the 4-year Bachelor of Science in Microfinance, in close cooperation with MFIs.

    • Research studies, specifically on Agricultural Microfinance, on Business Development Services and on the State of the Art of Microfinance and Microenterprise Development in the Philippines have been completed to assess the current situation in these fields of interest and explore opportunities to expand access, not only to credit, but also to innovative products and services to microfinance clients.

      The involvement of the Ninoy and Cory Aquino Foundation shows that Bam Aquino’s initiatives seem to be very much in line with family values. I particularly like the agricultural microfinance aspect, and the Business Development Services aspect of HSFs program.

  3. Wow – you mentioned before that you worked in a private bank before and it shows. You really are in your element here. This should be interesting months ahead, a welcome respite to heated political discussions, although I will not neglect that, too, as the country’s and our future will depend much in the outcome of the May 2016 election.

    As in Micha’s article, I might be rendered mute or silent in this offering. My only experience in this area of finance is when I worked as accounting supervisor for a financing company, engaged in quasi-banking functions. I will reserve my comment when discussion reaches that topic, however little I could remember, since that was my second job many many years ago.

    I will read and digest all the info offered.

    “21 universal banks represent the heart of the economy’s money intermediary function. They hold 80% of all financial assets, with the bulk of the assets being loans to businesses”

    I take heart in the global finance think tanks that say the Philippine banks are solid and stable and has enough shield in the system to counter any “Lehman Brother-kind of problems” that might arise internationally. What I am worried about is chempo’s warning of a real property bubble locally that is about to burst. Thailand, if I’m not mistaken, had this kind of problem which affected the whole region. The US too, which has just started to recover, the ripple effect of which was felt in Europe and elsewhere.

    I really want to understand how this whole thing works as this is also linked to the day to day lives of the middle class and the poorest of the poor, for I know that the oligarchs are pretty much covered by any uncertainties much like the millionaire Greeks.

    I must confess, I’m totally green and it shows.

  4. Vicara says:

    Am no financial expert of any kind, but was alarmed to see that real estate development tops loans, and agriculture coming in only at no. 7. The property situation is not quite as dire as in some China cities with bursting and burst real estate bubbles, but there have been warning signs of possible overbuilding in property development, most obviously in clogged Metro Manila. If the economy continues to do well under the next administration, all these spaces will be filled, and the banks can heave a sigh of relief, but it’s unnerving to see the large proportion of loans going to this sector.

    Agriculture–which covers everything from traditional crops to higher-value “new” crops and mariculture, e.g. lapulapu grown offshore–has been in the doldrums. Not for lack of money or opportunity or demand from here and abroad, but because not a whole lot of people in this administration and under past presidencies have been thinking about it. There just hasn’t been an integrative vision at the center of things that ties together infra, logistics systems, intra-regional and export markets. Then there are those perennial land tenure issues…

    • karl garcia says:

      in the 90s Agriculture credit was still the top.

      http://dirp3.pids.gov.ph/ris/wp/pidswp9302.pdf

      agricuture and banking in the philippines

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BayWa – this is a concept that works for small and medium-sized farmers, it comes from the mainly agricultural (and Catholic) state of Bavaria, to farmers who often do not even speak High German properly and are simple people…

      Based in Munich, BayWa Aktiengesellschaft is a German company which operates in the agriculture, building materials and energy sectors. It provides trading, strategic and other miscellaneous services in these sectors.

      (Agriculture) is subdivided into three units, Agricultural Trade, Agricultural Equipment and Fruit. The trade unit provides the farmers with an assorted supply of various products which are of importance for the agricultural industry right from the sowing of seeds until harvesting the crops. Besides these products, it also gives guidance and counseling to farmers over issues related to agricultural farming and business. In the Equipments business, BayWa provides a range of machinery, from heavy machines to small sized appliances, to a range of customers including farmers, foresters and the general public. Besides, BayWa also takes contracts for planning and building of agricultural facilities. It also provides service for the entire product range.

      (Building materials) provides products and services for new constructions, renovation work and entire modernization in both rural and urban areas. It also has two sub units, Building Materials and DIY & Garden Centers. BayWa has its sales centers in Germany. It also operates via franchisees in Germany, Austria and Italy. Future plans include entering the market in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia. BayWa is among the largest full line suppliers in this field. This segment forms about 25% of BayWa’s total revenue. Of this, 75% comes from the building materials and only 25% from the garden and DIY unit. There are about 271 locations in Germany and Austria. Around 600 franchised locations are there. Germany is the biggest domestic market. The revenue of this segment was €1.6 billion.

      (Energy) is particularly involved with the sale of heating oil. Besides, other fuels and lubricating oils are also traded. This is the third largest portion of BayWa’s revenue and generates about 25% of the total revenue. The main articles of concern are heating oil, diesel and Otto fuels [clarification needed], lubricants and solid fuel generally as wood pellets. Main sales areas are Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, the new German federal states and Austria. There are sales offices at several locations. There are about 275 fuel stations owned and operated by BayWa in Germany under the name of BayWa and AVIA. Sales in Austria are done through a group holding GENOL, which supplies fuel to around 500 stations. The major business activities are supplying of local authorities, commerce and mineral oil trade.

    • Joe America says:

      I’ll do a special blog about loan quality and risk, but it almost seems like I need to add a look at RE developers who are putting up all the high rises. My thinking is that many have very deep pockets and can handle a significant downturn. It is not the empty units that bother me. If there were a collapse of the BPO industry, then that would be a different story. Individual borrowers would bail and it would be bloody for banks.

  5. karl garcia says:

    About Banking Deregulation

    http://dirp4.pids.gov.ph/ris/dps/pidsdps0127.pdf

    Will the Asean integration bring entry of Malaysian banks.

  6. edgar lores says:

    *******
    What staggers me is the size of the “great unbanked” population. Only “about three out of ten adult Filipinos possess bank accounts.”
    *****

    • hand to mouth existence err, hand to gadgets, foodies, concerts, consumerism existence may explain it, sir edgar…not many possess even some kind of emergency fund tucked in, in banks or under their mattresses, then they borrow when emergencies arise. five days before the next salary and employees are already asking for cash advances.

    • Jonathan says:

      The banks behave in a way that one would almost think they don’t want the business. Two photo IDs (which not everyone will have), maintaining balances of several thousand, interest rates that are somewhere between “awful” and “terrible”… for a lot of Filipinos, the gains of being a part of the “formal” banking sector are too small relative to the costs.

      This is one reason we hear of so many investment scams, too.

      • Joe America says:

        Customer service improves markedly if you have big money with the bank. Otherwise, it is a cattle call. I quit Land Bank when they installed a waiting system, a row of 15 chairs, four rows deep. You’d get at the end, say row 4. When the customer in chair 1 was served, everyone would stand up, move to the next chair, and sit down. You’d do that about 50 times if it was crowded. Even the US army did not submit its recruits to such indignities, and I learned to hate lines in the army. Especially the one for shots. I’d rather have my money in cash in a can.

        • You will stand and sit about 50 times, whew… look at the brighter side… it will reduce friction from sitting too long..hahaha…just fan it before taking your seat as it might still be hot from the previous occupant..

          I remember a story in high school – a teacher asked the student who stood up, to explain the topic on hand, he said he did not stand up to answer, and when the teacher asked why he stood up, his answer was “just reducing friction, ma’am”

          • Joe America says:

            That’s funny. When my wife was 8 months pregnant, she went to the teller at BDO to get 25K so as not to have to stand in the sun in the line at the ATM. They wouldn’t let her have the money (her money, not theirs) because it was less than the 50K ATM limit. She had to go to the ATM line. I’d withdraw less than 50K regularly, just presenting my white face as credentials to gain the exception. MRP does get some things right.

    • Joe America says:

      Well, you have to have money to have an account. It is indeed a cash society.

      • In Germany and Austria, and in much of Eastern Europe now as well, there is the Raiffeisen Bank. It is a cooperative originally formed to help fund poor farmers…

        There are also some cooperative banks originally founded for workers. Wonder if stuff like that exists in the Philippines. Cooperative banks played a major role over here in keeping workers and farmers out of the poverty trap, helped them get good loans for different needs.

        • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savings_bank – plus these institutions also play a significant role at the local level in Continental Europe – again the British don’t have them, and there a lot of poor people do not have bank accounts as well:

          A savings bank is a financial institution whose primary purpose is accepting savings deposits and paying interest on those deposits.

          They originated in Europe during the 18th century with the aim of providing access to savings products to all levels in the population. Often associated with social good these early banks were often designed to encourage low income people to save money and have access to banking services. They were set up by governments or by or socially committed groups or organisations such as with credit unions. The structure and legislation took many different forms in different countries over the 20th century.

          • OK; I saw that England and USA have them too… but in there it seems large commercial banks play a far bigger role… savings banks in Germany as well as cooperative banks play a major role in funding SMEs at the local level, giving people good loans for housing etc.

        • Joe America says:

          There are cooperative banks and other grass roots lenders. I hope to get into a discussion of that in a later installment. They don’t keep many out of poverty, I think, but bridge between planting and harvest.

    • Exactly, edgar!

      That’s what I was trying to say here, re Philippine sex-workers and their un-tapped economic potential (but which in that list above will be best to offer services to these girls?):

      https://joeam.com/2015/10/25/money-matters/#comment-143296

  7. chempo says:

    Joe the tables do not have enough info to at least compute one simple Leverage Ratio. That is a basic risk ratio which the Bangko Sentral has set as under 5%, in accordance with Basel 2. That means banks cannot leverage 20 times their capital. What’s missing are the info on off-balance accounts.

    On both assets and liabilities I can’t see trade-related accounts which I can only assume have been grouped under ‘other’s. If that’s the case, it seems Philippines trade financing business is very low key, because it’s international trade is very small.

    On the assets side there is a low 138bb interbank deposit, but none on the liabilities side. I can only conclude inter-bank money market transactions are very low. Which means banking industry is basically domestic deposit-loan types.

    On the assets side, the securities figure is a big component, too bad you have no breakdowns so we don’t know if it’s only govt securities or other more interesting stuff. The more we can peep into this, the more we can know the sophistication of the banking industry here.

    On the exposure to real estate, whilst significant in terms of bank asset distribution, doe’nt tell us much of that industry. Missing is the level of fundings from savings agencies and developers.

    At the moment, bank reserve ratio is 20%. This is relatively high in comparison to many other countries. This means the banks’ cost of funds are very high because for every 100 pesos deposited the banks can only lend out 80. Bangko Sentral seems to use the reserve ratio more for liquidity control purposes rather the the money market operation way of buying/selling treasury bonds. This means the reserve ratio is adjusted more frequently than the banks would have liked because it bothers their cost of funds computation. Countries that use money market operation for liquidity control purposes very seldom need to adjust the reserve ratio.

    • chempo says:

      Para 1 — I mean off-balance sheet accounts

      • caliphman says:

        Is it just me thats got a broken calculator or is there another reason why I can’t seem to add up the list of assets to equal total assets? Maybe the table needs a CPA…correcting plug asset? hehehe

        • Joe America says:

          It’s a long story, as to why my old computer broke and I have no excel on my new computer and the internet connection is really really stinko, and that, my friends, is the reason for the arithmetic. Globe did it. I had to transcribe the numbers manually and . . . well, enough of that . . .

          Of, if I used LCpl_X’s reasoning, I just wanted to test who was reading this stuff. Y’all are doing great.

  8. arlene says:

    This is a pretty interesting topic Joem. I was a unibanker at Bank of the Philippine Islands for more than 21 years and I took pride in what I learned from it. I enjoyed the Trust functions of the bank which is separate from the bank proper. Used to handle securities (stocks) and money market too.

    • Joe America says:

      Ah, hi, arlene, glad you get something from it. Your mentioning trust reminds me of when I had to coordinate the transfer of US$3 billion in bearer bonds from the old trust security vault to the new one about 10 miles away. We had to inventory them as they left, pack them, seal them, get them to the armored trucks (four large ones) and convoy down the roads and freeway to the new location, where they would be unpacked and inventoried again. Sure enough, one of the trucks got a flat tire and our convoy, protected by an army of armed guards and police stalled at the side of the freeway for a couple of hours until a new truck arrived and the bonds could be transferred.

      Earlier in the morning, the Trust boss and three other portly gentlemen got stuck in the wee small service elevator of the old bank building we were leaving. It took 20 minutes to get them out. The exit from the vault to the street to the armored trucks was through the bank branch proper, giving apoplexy to a lot of the elderly customers that frequented the place. They found the shotguns of all the guards disturbing.

      And people think banking is boring . . . . 🙂

      • arlene says:

        Oh, that was unfortunate, part of the risk of transferring big amounts from one branch to another. I like the trust business of the Bank, you’re right, it is not boring. You learn so much when to buy when the market is at its bearish mode and when to rake in some money when it is at its bullish. One must learn to spot the right timing since even a little bad news affects the market. Learning how treasury bills work (they’re the safest investment by the way) and investing in the stock market is fun, just choose the blue chips when buying though. Investing in securities are okay, much more when you make it long term. Just imagine, you are a part-owner of a business entity 🙂

      • chempo says:

        Joe in our part of the world we hardly see bearer bonds, even in Singapore which is a financial centre.

    • arlene says:

      Yeay, so sorry, I misspelled your name….blame it on my arthritic fingers.

  9. NHerrera says:

    Joe, this is not a substantive comment. It is just to have some of the numbers in order.

    1. On the last two tables: the number 9334 Billion for total assets jibes with total liability, including capital accounts (7171+1018+1146 = 9335). Check.

    2. Second to last table on univ bank assets, the total for other loans of 574 is 822 unless some of the sub-numbers above the line is incorrect.

    3. Still on second to last table: if one adds 3925, 291, 822, 362 one gets 5400. This does not reconcile with 4790 at top of table?

    4. If we take 9334 as a solid number (note 1 above) and the 5400 number as correct instead of 4790, then replacing 2186 with 3934 reconcile the numbers — of course there are a lot of permutations. In short, is it possible?

    Total Assets 9334
    Financial assets 3934 instead of 2186?
    Loans 5400 instead of 4790?

    Frankly I am not bothered by the items above, after all we are looking at the order of magnitude of the numbers — the big ticket items, so to speak. (I may have other non-arithmetical comments later.)

    • chempo says:

      NHerrera you’re one good number cruncher who bothers to do the maths. Now Joe can’t sleep until he figures it out.
      I think the error is in the Reverse Repos 248. These are securities purchased with agreements to sell them back at a certain time. Wonder why it’s in this line.

      • NHerrera says:

        Yes, absent the 248 item, the total is 574. (I did a mental rounding and adding of some numbers and noticed the numbers do not “compute” so I whipped the good old calculator. I certainly didn’t mean to make Joe lose more than a few minutes time. 🙂

        • caliphman says:

          Because reverse repos are essentially and legally bank loans collaterized by the security. The bank has no price risk on the security because the borrower buys back the security at a price set to assure no gain or loss to the bank except for the interest on the loan. When I worked on Wall Street thats usually how my investment bank financed its securities portfolios so in this case those are probably loans to securities broker dealers or other banks.

    • Joe America says:

      Thanks. Let me look at that. I think the lessons remain the same though, correct?

      • NHerrera says:

        Yes, my focus — myself, not at all savvy on bank matters — is on the dominance (80% of assets) of the 21 Universal Banks. For that matter, might as well include the Commercial Banks and Thrift Banks. If they remain in good shape and true to country’s development, doing the necessary due diligence in their loans, while making money for themselves, the country will be in good shape too, as far as a Banking System is concerned.

  10. karl garcia says:

    For the boys ..Feauturing Megan Young

  11. chempo says:

    Just for the record, there is a bit of art to the number crunchers’ presentation of figures. Joe’s presentation here sucks, but we know he is not numbers guy haha.

    • Joe America says:

      The goal for me is to lay out the banking system in simple way that allows lay people to understand how it all fits together. If the presentation “sucks”, it means I did not get across the points I intended to make, and I’m sorry for that.

      • Joe America says:

        My goal is not to show people how to be accountants. I would have no idea.

      • chempo says:

        Sorry Joe, my impropriety… the data is good. I mean to say only about subtleties of underlining and double lining and boxing of numbers. It’s a geeky thing. No big deal.

        • Joe America says:

          Ah, yes, our accountants were always instructing me on those things and I somehow never thought they were all that important, compared to the data, but I do remember the double underlining and $ only on the top and summation lines. In this one, I am aiming to speak to people who don’t really live with numbers, and so want to simplify. I appreciate the explanation.

  12. NHerrera says:

    PARETO PRINCIPLE APPLY TO THE TOP 3 BANK CATEGORIES

    To a person like me with no banking-like or related experience, I appreciate the numbers of the first table — which shows that the rural banks which help the smaller businesses in the rural areas; and the pawnshops which the poor frequently avail of — are so many in numbers, but count only for some 3% of the total banking system assets, 97% being taken by the Universal Banks, Commercial Banks, and Thrift Banks. Focusing ONLY on these three which will likely be the source of a Banking System and hence country trouble if it comes to that, we have:

    Category ———— Number – Num % – Assets — Ass %

    Universal Banks — 21 ——- 19.8 —– 9256 —- 83.6
    Comm Banks —— 15 ——- 14.2 —– 891——- 8.1
    Thrift Banks ——- 70 ——- 66.0 —– 920 —— 8.3

    Total —————- 106 —— 100 —— 11067 — 100

    And lo and behold our friend, “the 20-80 Pareto Principle” holds — 19.8% of the numbers of the three bank categories account for 83.6% of the assets.

    My sense of this, just like in manufacturing sector and other activities, where Pareto’s 20-80 Principle holds, is that we really have to be careful on how these big fellows go about their businesses — especially the Universal Banks. I believe, without the data to back me up or doing research (blind faith?) that the BSP is on the ball on this. But the knowledgeable of us should take a look over their shoulders especially on the RE bubble that Mary Grace mentioned about @chempo’s previous postings, among others. Good for the Philippines — and for the knowledgeable — that we have previous countries’ experience, among others, to refer to and learn from.

    I am glad the Philippine Banking System is being focused on in the Blog.

  13. I hope there will be more blogs on this, Joe— that this will be a rather lengthy series. In writing the Islamic Renaissance article, I was left with more questions than answers… specifically stuff you’ve covered here (and also Micha’s article). Looking forward to chempo’s article as well. Much of it is still going over my head, but as G.I. Joe said, “Knowing is half the battle!”

    • Joe America says:

      I think the particulars of banking cause people’s eyes to glaze over, so I want to step through the basics to draw off some simple understandings that lead to a digging deeper into what matters. I’m doing this for myself and just publishing the trek for those who gain from it. For example, I find it amazing how many institutions there are at grass roots, and how few actually hold the big money. So the grass roots organizations really don’t pose economic risk. Whether they are efficient or not, and whether they are healing social ills or not, is another matter. The economic risk (and strength at financing the Philippines) resides mainly among 21 institutions.

  14. Micha says:

    You’re the banker here Joe, so I defer to your wisdom on the subject. I would, however, like to share these following videos and hope you could enlighten us if it make sense. Although the narrator here describes the banking system in the UK, I am assuming that most of the basics of banking is the same in the Philippines.

    • chempo says:

      Micha, Joe is a marketing expert and I’m sure he understands banking pretty well, but he’s not into the nuts and bolts.

      If I may try to elaborate on the first video:
      (1) I think you picked the wrong video to explain money creation. There are some small errors and un-necessary complications thrown in.
      (2) UK is not a good choice to explain money creation by bank credit expansion because they don’t have bank reserve requirements.
      (3) What is bank reserve and its purpose:

      a). When you deposit cash in your BDO a/c, the bank cannot lend all the deposit money out because there won’t be any money if you go back to withdraw. BDO has to retain, or reserve, some money back. It reserves a certain sum from all customers’ deposits. So now they have a big pool of reserve money. If you decide to make full withdrawal, they use the pool money. But if all BDO’s customers try to withdraw at the same time, it won’t have enough immediate money. That will cause panic and a bank run. The bank is financially strong, it just don’t have liquidity. So Bangko Sentral says all ye banks, put your reserve money with me. So now SB has a very very big pool of reserve money from all banks in Phils. If there is a run on BDO, central bank steps in to lend immediate cash from their very very big pool. Confidence will return and customers will stop withdrawing money.This is the original role of central banks — lender of last resort. It is to prevent bank failures from a bank run.
      Note (i) that lender of last resort role is not to prop up insolvent banks, like Banco Filipino.
      Note (ii) don’t confuse this reserve pool of each bank with the actual physical cash they hold. Reserve is the money they did not lend out. Physical cash is any inventory level that they estimate they need daily.

      b).All banks maintain an operating a/c (just like a current a/c) with central bank. When BDO sets aside the reserve from your deposit, this is sent to BS. It will credit BDO’s a/c and debit Currency a/c. These banks’ a/c at BS are know as banks reserve a/cs. The total represents that very very large pool of money in (a).

      c) What does this reserve tell you. It gives some reflection on the strength of the financial market. The higher the level, the more insurance there is. This level has 2 effects :
      (i) cost of funds to banks — if they reserve too much, means they can only lend out less and earn less.
      (ii) money supply — if the level is high, means less is lent out and credit expansion (see below) is less.

      d) BS reserve requirement is 20%, Bank of England is ‘0’. BS use this reserve ratio not only for the lender of last resort purpose, but to control money supply.

      (4) Bank credit expansion — when you deposit 100 pesos at BDO, they set 20 aside as reserve and lend out 80 to a baker. Mr Baker takes the 80 to buy flour at SM who deposits the 80 at Citibank. Citi sets aside 16 and lends out 64. This process is repeated again and again. With reserve ratio of 20%, your 100 deposit can create 500 pesos through banking credits. UK with no reserve ratio means credit expansion is infinity.

      (5) Banking settlement : The video does not show this clearly.
      Every day money moves from one person to another and one bank to another. Money moves by actual cash deposits/withdrawals, cheque payments, ATM, bank transfers etc. All these are channeled through clearing houses, which in our digital age, we are using all sorts of technologies. Basically, they are clearing houses — where all transactions get sorted out and on a net net basis they know BDO need to pay Citi xx pesos, Allied Bk pay BDO – xx pesos, etc. These net net payment status is sent to SB which then debits or credits each bank individually into their respect operating a/c mentioned in (3b).
      At the close of business, each bank will check their balance of their operating a/c at SB and make sure that the balance there is at least 20% of their total deposits liabilities. This is a daily compliance requirement. If they are short, they borrow at the money market to top up. Banks will not keep unnecessarily large balances in their reserve a/c because they are non-earning assets.
      Note: All money transactions end up at the SB books where bank a/cs are debited or credited accordingly.

      There are many such clearing house mechanisms in Philippines. Check here for details http://www.bsp.gov.ph/financial/payments/philpass.pdf

    • chempo says:

      Micha, for the 2nd video, I would suggest you ignore it totally. It just adds unnecessary confusion.

      Just understand this.

      Bangko Sentral has a reserve requirement as explained in my comment above, and how that ratio affects money supply.

      Apart from this reserve ratio, banks all over the world operate under a lot of other compliance requirements. They need all sorts of daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly and annual central bank reports. Central bank sets all sorts of constraints and they need these reports to monitor compliance and various risk exposures.

      One of the risks that central bank will monitor is bank liquidity. The reserve ratio is one of them. Others will be like they will set up certain asset level requirements — eg securities, term loans less than 1 year, repos, etc etc. There can be many configurations, bottom line is they want to make sure certain % of assets under what they term as liquid assets. They may call this liquidity ratio1, and next liquidity ratio level 2 etc.. I don’t know how BS does it, its just stratification of asset categories based on liquidity.

      That’s all to it. Forget that video.

      • Micha says:

        The 20% reserve ratio requirement in the Philippines expands the base money to 5 times, right?

        • chempo says:

          No. It expands bank deposits 5X. It’s mathematical expansion, does not mean you take all bank deposits in the country and multiply 5 times. It means if you can trace one initial deposit through it’s life cycle it creates 5 times the money. Of course it’s a chicken an egg situation again. How would you know if the money you deposited is the 3rd or 4th cycle etc.. It’s just a mathematical formulation, so quantitatively, it shows how money supply can expand. There are lots of other issues, like velocity of money etc. There are modelling tools…that part is Rhiro’s domain. Me I only understand the debits and credits.

          • Micha says:

            What it means, theoretically at least, is that banks could only max out their lending at 80% of what they have in deposits. Take for example your bank, BDO, would it be accurate to say that at any given time, its lending ability is restricted by how much deposit money it has?

            • chempo says:

              Theoretically yes, but in reality no.
              The reason is this. Banks got all sorts of fundings. Deposits is one one of them. Out of this deposit funds they can max out 5x. But they have other funds…like paid up capital, prior years undistributed profits, general reserves, long term debt borrowings (debentures etc), interbank borrowings. So their loan assets will be more than 5x their total customer deposits at any time.

              • Micha says:

                There you go. The whole pretense that deposits fund loans is just that – a pretense. In reality, banks approve loans not necessarily by how much deposits it’s got but by how much confidence it has that the borrower could pay back those loans. Afterall, approving loans is as simple a process as affixing the bank manager’s signature to the loan agreement and crediting the borrower’s bank account with electronic bank numbers.

              • Joe America says:

                With all do respect, you are striving for a concept that is irrelevant to the bankers themselves. They have lending departments to make loans and branches to take deposits and they grow them both and make profits. Some esoteric argument that the loans don’t fund the deposits would cause them to leave the room, heads shaking, and head for the nearest bar. I hope you can monetize the idea, though. Write a book or two. I’m all for you.

              • chempo says:

                You are dead wrong Micha, deposits represent an important source of funds for banks. Whilst signing the Loan Agreement is a simple thing to do there are many things going on in a bank before a loan is granted. As Joe pointed out, there is an Assets/Liability committee and some others. Money is a limited commodity, so within a bank, which is profit driven, there are lots of components chasing the limited resource. Just like the govt which does annual budgets, banks do too. Whilst bank budgetting probably may not be as tough as a govt’s, it nevertheless is pretty tough thing as compared to most other corporations. Trust me, a lot of behind the scenes thinking went on before a loan is easily granted.
                If deposits are just a pretense why go the length and trouble and expense of attracting depositors and having branches 500 metres from each other. The CEO that trivialises deposit money won’t survive long in the industry.

              • Micha says:

                Well I guess we’ll just have to part ways on this one given that there’s alternative explanation that I, at least, find more coherent.

    • Micha,

      Let me also add this to your stack of videos, re Islamic banking (pay close attention to “external, independent panel of qualified shariah [Islamic economy & finance] scholars”)—- I was wondering if morality/ethics is addressed similarly in conventional banking, ie. AT&T invests in the porn industry, Time Warner invests in online gambling, etc.

      is it really possible to account for investments in “prohibited industries”?

      • Micha says:

        @Lance Cpl

        I like the concept of interest free loans. The Positive Money movement in the UK also advocates, if I’m not mistaken, the same scheme.

        If you’ve watched the video I linked above, it bares out the mechanism that belies the all too common notion that bank deposits fund bank loans.

        I’m not sure if our resident bankers, chempo and Joe, will agree.

        • Joe America says:

          Banks have “Asset/Liability Management Committees” that take on the process of matching assets and liabilities for term and rate. Deposits are the primary source of funds for lending for non-investment (community or commercial) banks, and if they do not fund loans, I’d like to know what the banks have been doing with my money all these years. Of course, they convert it to electricity, but that’s what the loan is, so who cares. Indeed, I am paid in electricity and leave the paper and coin withdrawals to my wife, who is most adept at getting rid of the stuff. Maybe instead of being mysterious, tell us, what DO banks do with our deposits if they don’t lend it out. I don’t have enough bandwidth to pull up all these videos and reports y’all are pushing out. I’d like a simple explanation, in words.

          • Micha says:

            …what DO banks do with our deposits if they don’t lend it out?

            Your deposits sit idle in the bank’s electronic vault earning certain interests until such time you decide to draw it all out.

            But if we follow the 20% reserve ratio requirement in the country, supposedly 80% of your deposited money gets lent to somebody else. Whereupon if you decide to actually withdraw all of your money because you want to, I don’t know, maybe buy a new house, you’d expect your bank to say, “we’re very sorry Joe, but you could only withdraw 20% of your money because the rest we lent out to Mr. Xavier and Mr. Yulo.”

            Is that how the narrative goes?

            • This is highly reminiscent of It’s A Wonderful Life. 🙂

            • Joe America says:

              To quibble, to split hairs . . . It’s a separate reality I care not to enter. Deposits go into a pool of funds that gets apportioned out to fund loans and other assets. It is not rocket science. Nor is it voodoo magic sold around the intellectual circuit like snake oil.

              • Micha says:

                Ok, so I guess that means it’s perfectly alright for you Joe if your bank tells you they couldn’t give your full deposits back just yet even if you badly needed it because they pooled it to grant loans to somebody else.

                It would be interesting to see real figures from, say, Metrobank or BPI how much loans outstanding and how much deposits they have at any given time.

              • Joe America says:

                Banks manage their cash supply based on withdrawal trends, plus excess, and stock up at times of peak demand. A demand deposit is just that, a contract that says I can get my money in cash whenever I want it. What you are speculating does not happen because deposits are not matched to a loan, they go into a pool that funds the loan, a portion of which is dedicated to cash on hand in branches. Your theoretical suppositions just aren’t the real world.

                Indeed, if you actually read the blog, you would see that looking at individual banks is one of the future steps because I am just as curious as you are.

                Banks have correspondent relationships with other banks so the pooling actually goes inter-bank if need arises. I once hiked two blocks down the mainstreet of Westwood, CA near UCLA (with a dual-custody sidekick) to withdraw a large pile of cash from Bank of America to cover an unexpected large withdrawal at our branch. We used grocery bags to haul the stuff, and every college kid we passed somehow looked sinister. In the real world, banks honor their contracts, customer service (in the US) is king, and only a major financial collapse would mandate the failure to abide by a contract, and that would be done under regulatory auspices.

              • chempo says:

                No dis-respect meant, but you guys obviously have never drawn substantial sums of money from banks before. I used to be a manpower officer in my Army days so I used to go collect the camp’s payroll. Those days all got paid in cold cash so the withdrawal sum was substantial. We had armed escorts. Now of course if I walked into the bank un-announced, they probably wont have enough cash for me. So if you have an impending huge sum for withdrawal, you need to co-ordinate with them and the particular branch will make sure they withdraw enough from the central bank to stock up their cash vault so that they can service you.

              • Joe America says:

                I almost started to explain that large cash withdrawals require advance notification, but it was not relevant to the point. The issue is, do deposits fund loans, and they do, by a bank putting them into a pool of funds and applying them for this and that, cash in branches being one of the applications, and loans being another. A person CAN get his money on demand, with an asterisk for large withdrawals. When I go into a bank to withdraw, I am not forcing the bank to call some poor borrowers loan for repayment.

            • caliphman says:

              Picture this for a moment. Joe is at Banko sa TabiTabi branch in Biliran being told by the manager who is telling everyone else to come back tomorrow to make a withdrawal from their demand deposit accounts. Joe and everyone at the counter reach for their cellphones and my question is. How’s long do you think before all the bank’s Biliran depositors are clamoring at the branch location demanding their money? That’s why itwas referred to as bank run but now they drive up in their cars 🙂

        • chempo says:

          Banks have other funds…like paid up capital, prior years undistributed profits, general reserves, long term debt borrowings (debentures etc), interbank borrowings. They can also play with derivatives of all sorts – end result they get pools of funds to us. Customer deposits is just a part of their funds.

      • josephivo says:

        Some Muslims are humans too (others are Gods and can kill at will – if later the sex of a slave or a heavenly virgin is for free)

        Journalist John Foster quotes an investment banker based in Dubai:

        We create the same type of products that we do for the conventional markets. We then phone up a Sharia scholar for a Fatwa … If he doesn’t give it to us, we phone up another scholar, offer him a sum of money for his services and ask him for a Fatwa. We do this until we get Sharia compliance. Then we are free to distribute the product as Islamic. “Top scholars” often earn “six-figure sums” for each fatwa on a financial product. (Wiki)

        • edgar lores says:

          *******
          🙂 😦
          *****

        • If he doesn’t give it to us, we phone up another scholar, offer him a sum of money for his services and ask him for a Fatwa. We do this until we get Sharia compliance. Then we are free to distribute the product as Islamic. “Top scholars” often earn “six-figure sums” for each fatwa on a financial product. (Wiki)

          That’s pretty apt description of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ijtihad#Sunni , josephivo.

          Ijtihad has the same root as jihad, that’s j-h-d ( جهد ), basically means to struggle/strive to square the Qur’an with what the Prophet did, w/ what his Companions saw or heard him do (and what those Companions told the next gen), to that of human reason.

          To me it’s not only arbitrary, but since the Sunni Muslims don’t have top-down type clergy (like the Shi’as), seems like utter chaos. Same goes for other types of fatwas as well not just in finance.

          I think, karl, in particular will get a kick out of this fatwa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rada_(fiqh)#Fatwa_controversy_in_Egypt

          As shoddy as it seems, there is a market for Islamic finance/economics and a need for “scholars”, so the question is can all this be translated to opportunity for the Philippines?

      • Joe America says:

        Now there is a whole new set of balance sheets for me to wreak havoc on, to see how they make money without charging interest, and how they draw the lines that lending to finance a pig farm would be a no-no but funding a terrorist organization is hunky dory. I hope you continue to develop your interest in exploring these matters so you can keep me out of the picture. 🙂

        • Let me see how it goes, I think I can handle the Islamic economy/finance, shariah “scholars” side of this story, but you (or chempo, or Micha, or caliphman, or other interested regulars, with an Econ or accounting background… ) will have to do all the bean counting.

          Hopefully, Ireneo, can touch base with his peeps in Berlin— so we can pawn this assignment to him. ;-P It is an Anthro subject after all.

    • chempo says:

      Micha — my comments on money gets destroyed when debt is paid

      Money only gets destroyed when you burn your peso notes or you drop your wallet into the Philippines Seas never to be found again. That money gets out of the money supply. They are gone from our economy.

      Other than that, any money that has been created into existence remains in the system always. Let’s take a look at a simple example. You got a 10,000 pesos loan from BDO. For your good work at the Society, Joe rewards you by giving you a check for 10,000 pesos drawn on Citibank. You deposit the Citi check into your overdraft a/c at BDO. That extinguishes your debt. But did it change the money supply? NO. Because this transaction will end up at Bangko Sentral’s books where Citi a/c will be debited and BDO a/c credited. BS merely moves funds from one bank a/c to another. Money supply remains the same. Nothing has changed.

      Throw that video away.

      • Micha says:

        chempo,

        The point is that, when the loan gets paid, that money leaves the economy, sits idle in the bank’s accounting balance sheet unless and until it gets re-injected into the economy in the form of another loan.

        • chempo says:

          No Micha, nothing changes. Funds moved from one bank to another, that’s all. It’s still in the economy. Citi banks depo liability has gone down because you banked in Joe’s check. But BDO’s deposit liability goes up because you extinguished your overdraft a/c. Net net in the economy, still the same.

          • Micha says:

            Money that sits idle in the bank’s electronic vault is not in the hands of consumers who wanted to buy stuff (goods and services). The velocity of that money is zero. It is not doing anything to stimulate economic activity.

            • chempo says:

              Micha, look it this way.

              Before Joe write that check for you, his a/c in Citi has a credit balance of 10,000. That balance gets into the M2 computation. You have to agree with this , right?

              Then Joe’s check drawn on Citi reduces his deposit a/c, so the M2 goes down, right?

              Previously you a/c at BDO was negative 10,000 overdraft. Nothing to do with M2.

              When you deposit Joe’s check into your BDO, your a/c is now ‘0″, from negative 10,000 to ‘)’ means a positive change of +10,000. (means overall for BDO their customers’ deposit a/cs went up bu 10,000 because of Joe’s check that you deposited). So this 10,000 now goes into the M2.

              Net net equals to no change in money supply.Means when debts get extinguished, there is no change in money supply. Funds just move from one person to another, means from one bank a/c to another in central bank’s books.

              • Micha says:

                Fundamentally agree with the transactional flow of course. And the flow leads the money to where? The bank’s reserves, I would assume, right? That gives the bank higher leverage to grant loans. But until such time that those money actually gets lent to somebody else, that money is idle, no velocity. It has potential for movement but nonetheless currently idle.

              • chempo says:

                Micha, every money that is deposited remains idle until re-lend. The issue we are talking about is whether it’s vanished from the M2 money supply when a debt is extinguished. And it does’nt.

              • Micha says:

                Again, agree on the fundamentals. The video refers to money that’s removed from the economy, not the electronic money on bank reserves.

              • chempo says:

                Like I said Micha, throw away that video.

              • Micha says:

                Hahaha, no way Jose. I learned more insight from it than a university-belt banking degree.

                Banking is so important in our economic life to be left to the bankers alone.

          • karl garcia says:

            Chempo Is the sentence below correct?

            Money in circulation is part of the overall money supply,those in piggy banks is still part of overall money supply.

            • Micha says:

              karl,

              The difference is that you could always take out a hammer and smash your piggy bank if you wanted to buy some ice cream. You can’t do that with idle money kept in electronic bank vaults.

            • chempo says:

              Money in circulation are all those notes and coins issued by central bank + all banks deposits (electronic money) LESS bank reserves.

              Bank reserves are all those electronic money that banks have in their operating a/cs with the central bank. This should correspondent to 20% of banks total deposit liabilities. (Of course not exactly, there is always a + or -). This money being reserves, are not in circulation.

              Whether you deposit checks, or crispy peso notes, or you bring the little piggies stuffed with centavos, does’nt matter. You end up with electronic balances in your a/cs. That’s the balance that gets into the M2 money supply computation.

              NOTE: deposits exclude money market deposits (bank to bank depos) this is in the M3 computation, not commonly used.

              If you take money in circulation + bank reserves, you get what is known as Base Money or sometimes they call it High Powered Money

            • chempo says:

              “Money in circulation is part of the overall money supply,those in piggy banks is still part of overall money supply ”

              Karl, maybe I did’nt answer your question in simple terms. If it’s still under your pillow, the answer is YES.

              Of course Micha is correct. But note that when it comes to money supply, things get bitchy here. Mostly we use M2 in which case YES, notes and coins in bank vaults are not part of money in circulation.

    • karl garcia says:

      oops that is the college course, but for the different militant groups

      here is an example our very own Milf

      https://web.stanford.edu/group/mappingmilitants/cgi-bin/groups/view/309

      RESOURCES
      Around the 1990s, the MILF received funding from Al Qaeda and from Mohammad Jamal Khalifa, Osama bin Laden’s brother-in-law, who founded various charities that funneled money to the MILF and similar groups. However, the MILF primarily funds itself through extortion and also reportedly profits from marijuana trafficking, although the organization denies engaging in illegal financing activities. [55]

      Further, the MILF collects alms—called “zakat”—from Muslims, sometimes in the form of taxes within the zones that it controls. [56] The MILF also reportedly receives money from various Islamic states, such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, and individuals in those states. Other funding sources include money diverted from foreign Islamic nongovernmental organizations and remittances from Moro members of the United Overseas Bangsamoro. [57]

      The MILF is reportedly the most well-armed of the Philippine militant groups. The MILF allegedly stockpiled explosives and landmines during its 2000 war against the government. The Armed Forces of the Philippines estimated in 2006 that the MILF controlled 8,170 firearms, most of which were rifles and grenade launchers. Some analysts give higher estimates of the MILF’s weapons cache. [58] The MILF’s weapons sources include domestic and foreign black markets, captured stockpiles, and their own weapons production. [59]

      • Joe America says:

        That’s an excellent resource. Although you have pulled some excerpts that reflect how well armed the group is, the paper does also point that the MILF is engaged in the peace process, and is a force of moderation compared to the more violent groups such as MNLF and BIFF.

    • Thanks for all this, by the way, karl…. still reading thru ’em.

  15. karl garcia says:

    The latest country report on financial stability asessment by the IMF of the Philippines

    https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2010/cr1090.pdf

  16. andrewlim8 says:

    Joe,

    Fingers crossed for those five nominations in the Bloggys Awards. I’d say it has a pretty good chance in four categories. 🙂

    May this be the year we can say we made a difference!

  17. karl garcia says:

    These seven groups dominate the economy

    groups dominate economy

    Asiasec’s report identifies seven conglomerates that dominate the Philippine economy, without labelling them as oligarchs. These are: San Miguel Corp. (SMC), Ayala Corp., First Pacific, SM Investments Corp., JG Summit, DM Consunji and Aboitiz.

    Asiasec says that, among the conglomerates, SMC has a very tight grip – its control and ownership remain substantial in its key business units – compared with the other groups that have neither a super majority interest nor a consolidating stake of 51% in their key businesses.

    SMC has 100% interest in its power generation business, 90% in Petron (fuel and oil), 100% in telecom, 99% in food, 78% in Ginebra, 99% in property (San Miguel Properties Inc.), 70% in Bank of Commerce, 100% in mining (coal) and 100% in airport (Caticlan).

    SMC enjoys majority interest in San Miguel Brewery (51%), Metro Rail Transit 7 (51%) and toll roads (51%).

    In addition, SMC has a significant minority in other businesses: 37% in the Manila Electric Co., 40% in Liberty Telecom and 35% in Manila North Harbor.

    Ayala Corp. has 68% interest in Integrated Micro-electronics Inc., 54% in Ayala Land Inc., 31% in Globe Telecom, 34% in Bank of the Philippine Islands and 43% in Manila Water Co.

    Asiasec notes that Ayala Corp’s ownership in key businesses it controls such as telecom and banking has not even reached a majority (51%) ownership, in contrast with SMC’s controlling and super majority position in most of its businesses.

    ‘The power generation ambition of Ayala Corp., which was welcomed by the market, is in contrast a very small wind-farm (less than 50 MW) vis-a-vis San Miguel’s diverse power portfolio (3,145 MW),’ Asiasec says.

    Hong Kong-based First Pacific, represented by PLDT Chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan, has a controlling interest (100%) in TV5, majority interest in Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (55%) and controlling but not majority interest in Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (27%), Philex Mining Corp. (46%) and Manila Electric Co. (41%).

    Henry Sy’s SM Investments Corp. (SMIC) has controlling interest in its department store business (90%) and supermarket (100%), majority interest in SM Prime Holdings (51%), controlling but not majority interest in Banco de Oro (41%) and SM Development Corp. (44%), and significant minority interest in China Bank (20%), Highlands Prime (31%) and Belle Corp. (35%).

    ‘For the SM group, it is worth highlighting that their retail assets (department store and supermarket) are all consolidated under SMIC and remain super majority,’ Asiasec says. ‘They have a majority controlling interest in SM Prime, albeit the ownership has been opened to the public, and controlling interest in both SMDC and BDO.’

    John Gokongwei’s JG Summit has controlling interest in petrochem (80%), majority interest in Universal Robina Corp. (60%), Robinsons Land Corp. (60%), Digital Telecoms (50%) and Cebu Air (65%), and a significant minority in UIC (32%).

    The Aboitiz group controls Pilmico (100%) and Aboitiz Power (76%) and has controlling but not majority stake in Accuria, its transportation business, at 49.5%.

    DMCI has a 100% stake in DMCI Homes, 56% in Semirara Mining Corp. and 33% in Maynilad Water Services Inc.

    http://www.twn.my/title2/resurgence/2011/251-252/econ1.htm

    • Joe America says:

      That’s a wonderful profile. Thanks, Karl. Dated 2011. There are two ways of looking at it. That the Philippines is “at the mercy of” in a negative way, or “is blessed to have the financial power of” for development of the Philippines. My view has shifted to the latter, to the positive. Regulations have to be deployed to makes sure the Nation’s interest are not set aside in favor of the Big Boys. Bam Aquino’s “Competition Act” is a big step forward, if implementation is assertive.

      • karl garcia says:

        You are welcome Joe.
        The implenenters must craft an IRR that has no loopholes and is doable.

      • Both Germany and Japan started their progress with certain rich men or families bankrolling it.. Thyssen and Krupp in Germany, Mitsubishi and Matsu shita in Japan…

        in a later stage of development, large banks became the new oligarchs… Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank, Commerzbank are major stockholders in “Germany Inc.” industrial firms… large Japanese banks like Sumitomo I have read play a similar role in Japan, with their representatives sitting on the boards of major corporations… a few billionare families remain in Germany like the Quandts who own large parts of BMW… one of the Sauds is now a major stockholder in Daimler-Benz (Mercedes).. the rest is all minority stockholders.

    • caliphman says:

      These are the oligarchs that are benefiting the most from the Philippine’s economic growth and when the country is reported as getting richer, it really refers to them and their lesser ilk. In Micha’s Money Matter’s piece, I seem to recall someone asking what the study of macroeconomics is about and why bother. The former requires a very extensive, descriptive, and somewhat historical, possibly quite boring response but the latter? Quite simply to try and understand and get a handle on the key problems facing market economies: recession/depression/unemployment/ lack of growth…and the one problem that keeps getting worse even here in the United States, the increasing concentration of wealth and power, particularly in oligopolistic market economies such as in the Philippines.

      • caliphman says:

        Apologies for digressing even further into the subject of oligarchs and their economic dominance. It is interesting to note that the all the top ones mentioned did not include full or even majority ownership and control of a top tier bank. Their core businesses appear to be strong enough financially to finance expansions internally. The role of their investments in banks seems mostly because the latter are close partners in financing customers of their core businesses rather than as an intermediate move to become a major player in the banking industry.

  18. karl garcia says:

    The exchange of Micha and Chempo can be like what is found in this link, it explains what happens when you deposit your money to the bank,the multiplier model thing,banks as the middle man perceptions.

    http://positivemoney.org/how-money-works/advanced/the-money-multiplier-and-other-myths-about-banking/

    • chempo says:

      Karl that’s a good ABC of sorts.
      The second half where Professor Charles Goodhart mentioned that reserve money is actually an post-fact computation (lend out first, then check reserve levels), he is correct, as was what I commented much earlier above.It’s a chicken and egg situation. However, what banks normally do is that before the close of business day, they have a pretty good idea of their reserve requirements (it’s real-time book-keeping right?) so normally one of the last thing they do is to make sure their operating a/c at the central bank is at the appropriate levels (in Philippines 20% of customer bank deposits). If it’s in excess, they place it out in the money market, if not adequate, they take deposits from the money market. Most times they are out by a bit + or -. Central banks are not so bitchy and penalise banks for daily non-compliance because of the dynamics of the business. So they normally work on a weekly or bi-weekly or monthly average of the reserves, then they fine banks for non-compliance if ever.

      • karl garcia says:

        Thanks again.

      • True and it is required also in companies performing quasi banking fuctions. I worked in a financing company before and part of my work was the preparation of the daily financial statements…balance sheet and income statement …to be summarized on a weekly basis for submission to the Central Bank. We were regularly monitored by three government agencies: the Central Bank, the SEC and the BIR….kept busy at all times as they scrutinized each and every records we have…one extremely idealistic BIR examiner was a particular challenge for me, he performed the most detailed audit in the whole world…it took him two months of pouring at my books of accounts, crosschecking them with every deposit slips and check vouchers…am proud to say he did not find any error… Just diasapproved some representation expenses, so that he could assess a small deficiency income tax….same with the CB and SEC examiners. Those were the days when aside from those 3 government agencies, I have to be at the monthly directors’ meetings to verbally report on the results of the operations based on the monthly FS.

  19. chempo says:

    Joe there is one Islamic bank in Philippines — Al-Amanah Islamic Investment Bank. Is this included under Commercial Bank?

    • Joe America says:

      Have to check later. Very weak internet here. APEC effect perhaps. Hard time loading pages.

    • Thanks, chempo. From their website,

      The New Amanah Bank

      Powered by the capital infusion of DBP and the BSP approved 5-year rehabilitation plan of the Bank, Al-Amanah Islamic Investment Bank of the Philippines had completed the re-branding strategy that popularizes the new Bank logo with the tag “Amanah Islamic Bank”. From thence, the Bank uses the new logo in its official correspondences and documents.

      The Bank offers the following products and services:

      Deposit Products-

      Islamic
      – Current Account under “Wadiah”
      – Savings Account under “Wadiah”
      – General Investment Account under “Profit Sharing Scheme”
      – Pilgrimage Savings Plan (PSP) New!

      Conventional
      – Current Account
      – Savings Account
      – Time/Special Savings

      Other Services-
      – Collection Agreement
      – Payroll Service
      – Fund Transfer/OFW Remittance
      – EC Pay (Bills Payment Facility) New!

      Financing Products under the following principles-
      – Murabahah
      – Al-Bai Bithaman Ajil
      – Ijarah
      – Al-Qardhasan (Benevolent Loan)

      During the rehabilitation period, the Bank is allowed to accept conventional deposits
      and offer developmental loans to the private and public sector.

      Amanah Islamic Bank offers on-line banking to its clientele covering the nine (9)
      Branches in Cagayan de Oro, Cotabato, Davao, Jolo, Iligan, General Santos, Marawi,
      Makati and Zamboanga.

      With the new and refurbished branches, the Bank is proud to open its doors to all
      Muslim and non-Muslim alike to experience a new way of banking, the Islamic Banking.

      Amanah Islamic Bank was first established as “Philippine Amanah Bank” by virtue of Presidential Decree No. 264 by then President Ferdinand E. Marcos. The decree required the Bank to invest 75%of its total loanable funds for the purpose of providing, among others, reasonable medium and long-term credit facilities to the people of the Muslim-dominated provinces of Cotabato, South Cotabato, Lanao del Sur, Lanao del Norte, Sulu, Basilan, Zamboanga del Norte, Zamboanga del Sur and Palawan. Thus, the Bank as been transformed into a development bank with an initial capitalization of P50 million.

      In 1974, Presidential Decree No. 542 was issued directing the Bank to implement the Islamic
      concept of banking, following the “no interest principle” and the partnership principles. This
      directive was not fully carried out because conventional banking still dominated the Bank’s
      operations.

      It was in 1990 that the Bank became a primarily Islamic bank with the signing of Republic Act
      No. 6848, otherwise known as the Charter of Al-Amanah Islamic Investment Bank of the
      Philippines (AAIIBP). The new charter provided the Bank an authorized capital stock of P1
      billion consisting of 10 million common shares. With the mandate to promote and accelerate
      the socio-economic development of the Autonomous Region of Muslim Mindanao (ARMM)
      through banking, financing and participating in agricultural, commercial and industrial
      ventures based on the concept of Islamic banking.

      By mid-1990, three (3) of its branches, Cotabato, Marawi and Jolo, have been transformed
      into accepting Islamic deposits. The other branches have been transacting both conventional
      and Islamic banking products, services and facilities.

      From 1990 to 2007, AAIIBP managed its operation with the support of the Bureau of
      Treasury.

      On November 14, 2007, the DBP Board of Directors approved the acquisition of AAIIBP. DBP
      took full control of the Bank’s operations on July 16, 2008. On October 30, 2008, DBP
      completed the acquisition of the shareholdings of the National Government, the SSS and the
      GSIS in AAIIBP, thereby controlling 99.9% of the Bank.

      On October 22, 2009, the Monetary Board approved the Bank’s 5-year Rehabilitation Plan,
      which focused on four corporate strategies (4Rs), namely, Recapitalization, Restoration of
      Financial Viability, Reorganization and Reforms Institutionalization. Under the
      Rehabilitation Plan, AAIIBP is allowed to continuously do both conventional and Islamic
      banking.

      In November 2009, DBP infused Php1.0 billion capital to Amanah Bank that marked the
      partial completion of the recapitalization strategy. http://www.al-amanahbank.com/History.html

      ……………………………………. Sharia District Courts (SDCs) and Sharia Circuit Courts (SCCs) were created by President Ferdinand E. Marcos in 1977 through Presidential Decree 1083, which is also known as “the Code of Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines”. Sharia law only applies to civil cases involving all Muslims nationwide in the Philippines, http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/presdecs/pd1977/pd_1083_1977.html

  20. R.Hiro says:

    Expenditure side of Economy—

    Government Capital Formation + Business Capital Formation + Personal Consumption + Exports – Imports… Obviously the accounting is done in monetary terms….

    Who intermediates the domestic and international payment system ?—Private and Public banking Institutions…The International payment system between banks is regulated by the ICC in Basel Switzerland…There is no International Central Bank…That role is in the de facto hands of the IMF/WB effectively controlled by the G-7 economies…

    Our domestic banks also operate under rules of the I.C.C.

    Ever since banking started with pawnshops it was based on the fractional reserve system…

    However banks then tended to lend way above their reserves on hand…That has never changed as the last financial crisis has shown…Cheap money led to housing price inflation…When prices collapsed mortgages outstanding were worth more than the asset valuation of the underlying asset…Banks re discounted their mortgage loans to raise more capital by securitizing the bonds and selling them to long term investors…That way the collapse of the valuations of homes caused massive contagion since these asset based securities were sold internationally…

    Please note the differing levels of expenditure…We spend to survive and also to buy assets we need to survive…Business is the same…This is where credit or debt comes into play…

    “Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”
    ― John Maynard Keynes

    State Central banks are primarily regulators of the payment/credit system. They also provide short term funds for the same to allow banks to maintain their statutory reserves…

    Banks who abuse this privilege are immediately warned and eventually shut down…

    Years and years of financial crisis financial crisis led to the creation and proactive stance of Central Banks.

    The Federal reserve sets the overnight rate for the banks to lend to each other to enable them to meet their reserve requirements that is reported to their respective Central Banks regularly…

    That is why China which has an almost 100% state owned banking system, was able to expand its economy so fast.. They concentrated on developing human and hard capital assets…

    Personal Consumption later…With their massive population they grew the fastest in human history…

    http://ellenbrown.com/2014/11/19/wsj-reports-bank-of-north-dakota-outperforms-wall-street/

    “Labour alone, therefore, never varying in its own value, is alone the ultimate and real standard by which the value of all commodities can at all times and places be estimated and compared. It is their real price; money is their nominal price only.”
    ― Adam Smith Wealth of Nations

    • R.Hiro says:

      Money is after all only the abstract of labor…

    • chempo says:

      Rhiro maybe you can enlighten us on something that I read briefly somewhere. In Philippines, is there some repackaging of mortgage loans into securitised instruments and traded similar to the US sub-prime housing securities?

      • RHiro says:

        Yes.. After the Asian financial crisis many of our banks packaged their bad loans and sold them to Special Purpose Asset Vehicles…That way banks got back some of their money but this was discounted… Then government allowed them to book their loses against future income. Some other institutions regularly package loans and these are sold as asset backed securities…I am presently dealing with one of these legal creatures created after the crisis…However they are not traded here as we do not have that deep a financial market in long term funds…That is where the phrase “when there is blood in the street buy!” The push to remove restrictions on land ownership here is simply to allow more finance capital here to grow the financial markets without regard to the lopsided ownership of real property assets here.

        Please note that credit/debt is always paid for by future labor… Even government knows that future taxes can be paid only by future labor income…

        Hence government expenditures must always be about increasing the quantity and quality of labor income…

        • RHiro says:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/business/dealbook/the-central-bank-skeptic-who-helped-give-birth-to-the-fed.html?_r=0

          “Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the capitalist system was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security but [also] at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth.

          Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become “profiteers,” who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat. As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.

          Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”
          ― John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace

          • RHiro says:

            http://www.moneyandbanking.com/commentary/2015/11/9/learning-from-japan-its-hard-to-end-a-deflation

            http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/11/23/printing-money-books-john-cassidy?mbid=rss

            Japan having one of the highest savings in the world has been in a deflationary state for more than a decade….That is why MMT is now being suggested to solve what seems to be an intractable problem…

            More debt or the Devil?

            • RHiro says:

              Last line should read debt or the Devil? MMT is considered the Devil

            • Micha says:

              Thanks for the links RHiro. I can see we’re getting some traction here.

              • caliphman says:

                Micha,sorry to say but RHiro left out a few ‘significant’ details. Japanese public debt at 240% of GNP has by far the highest and longest long running record for government deficit spending as part of its unsuccessful attempt to get out of deflation. Its deficit spending levels dwarfs its huge savings rates. A very big chunk of that public debt, about half of it, is placed with the Bank of Japan. In effect, its MMT in practice and failing. Japan would love to have all this huge money creation trigger inflation but it hasnt. I would say this is more a failure of Keynesian macroeconomic theory and policies more than MMT which as I keep iterating is a tool for financing government spending than a theory of how to stimulate or maintain economic growth. Well back to the salt mines and earn today’s living.

              • Micha says:

                @caliphman

                Japan went on a massive and prolonged deficit spending and, instead of inflation, it has problem shaking off deflation?

                How is that a failure of MMT?

                I thought your biggest concern about MMT prescription is that it will led to Zimbabwe level kind of inflation?

                What is your understanding of the Japanese dilemma?

              • R.Hiro says:

                http://www.moneyandbanking.com/commentary/2015/11/9/learning-from-japan-its-hard-to-end-a-deflation

                Independent central banks do have delegated authority to achieve their legally mandated goals. That is, they have “instrument independence,” which enables them to set policy using specified financial instruments. But even this power must be limited so that a central bank does not take over functions that are chiefly fiscal. Among other things, that means restricting the assets the central bank can buy and sell, as well as forbidding the central bank from acquiring assets directly from the Treasury (to prevent fiscal dominance, in which the government controls the issuance of central bank liabilities to meet its funding needs).

                http://www.moneyandbanking.com/commentary/2015/11/15/a-primer-on-central-bank-independence

                Micha I do wish you would read and understand…the two links…

                Bottom line in Japan is their not doing MMT since they still are not directly financing their fiscal policy with money from the BJ.

                QE is about buying up government debt from banks with new money from BJ and placing these with banks..However the problems in Japan are unique in Japan…

                Please note link below…Japan has low unemployment and low inflation…But it also has a demographic problem wherein the aging outstrips the young…

                One time in the not so distant past Bernie Villegas proposed that we send our women to marry Japanese men to help spark a population boom…

                They are now talking about charging people for keeping their money in checking accounts and thus spend spend spend…

                http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-17/japan-is-locked-in-a-struggle-to-spark-inflation

                Demand deposits off course are not lent out. Deposits in savings and CD’s are lent out…

                Obviously its deficit spending still is financed by debt and not by MMT…

                Ten year bond rates is still less than half of one per-cent.

                http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/japan

                Japan Government Bond Yields
                Name
                GTJPY2Y:GOV
                JGB 2 Year Yield
                -0.02%
                GTJPY5Y:GOV
                JGB 5 Year Yield
                0.03%
                GTJPY10Y:GOV
                JGB 10 Year Yield
                0.29%
                GTJPY30Y:GOV
                JGB 30 Year Yield
                1.39%

                Anyone who says that Japan is running out of savings is seriously uninformed .

              • Micha says:

                @RHiro

                Okay, so Japan hasn’t yet embraced MMT prescription.

                1. how is then the current Japanese economic malaise, as caliphman asserted, a failure of MMT?

                2. if their attempt to resolve deflation thru debt financed spending hasn’t work, maybe it’s about time they start doing it the MMT way.

              • R.Hiro says:

                Micha your consciousness still cannot grasp that no responsible Central Bank will attempt MMT.

                http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-11-17/japan-is-locked-in-a-struggle-to-spark-inflation

                None of the solutions mentioned in the above article is MMT…

                What is the use of giving away free money if people still will not spend it? The reverse is true in japan… You have to start penalizing people from keeping their savings in the bank…

                The BJ has been replacing sovereign debts held by banks with new cash in the hope that corporations and individuals would start spending it. (QE) But Japan has very little an output gap. Very low unemployment and a demographic problem of an enlarging pool of older people. They have been investing overseas instead…Plus they are moving into higher level of industrialization with robotics…

                http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-24/japan-inc-s-cash-pile-fuels-record-overseas-deals-real-m-a

                You see human expectations still dominate spending trends..

                and finally:

                1. how is then the current Japanese economic malaise, as caliphman asserted, a failure of MMT?

                How can a totally wrong premise of the Caliphman be a failure of MMT…

                So the BJ may own up to 50% of the sovereign debt of Japan…So what??? Japan will still have to pay the BJ from taxes or new debt to retire the paper held by the BJ. The government is still struggling to create inflation to debase the value of the debt…

                Please look at the interest rates that the Japanese government is paying for their debt…

                Eventually Japan will have to default on some of its debt…

                http://www.mof.go.jp/english/gallery/201405e.htm

                As some observers have remarked Japan is already the first communist industrial economy in the world…

                The Japanese state will be the primary and dominant allocator of economic resources…

          • chempo says:

            About what Lenin said…

            How to debauch a currency? Only the political leadership who rules the monetary and fiscal policies can do that is’nt it? Ask Marcos Snr.

            “Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become “profiteers,” who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat.” — I think you got the ‘bourgeoisie’ and ‘proletariat’ the wrong way round? Otherwise, I don’t quite understand you.

        • chempo says:

          Ah thanks, that’s interesting.

          1. SPAV is the usual way these oligarchies get out of jail free. Was that a govt vehicle, which means tax payers got screwed? The financial crisis was 1997 would you know if all those losses have been written off by now. This can help us understand current profitability.

          2. “one of these legal creatures created after the crisis” — are you referring to those vehicles that buys mortgage loans and re-package them into asset-backed securities? If that is the case, these vehicles don’t need the property ownership if I’m not wrong so I don’t understand your point on ‘restrictions on land ownership’. Also since the capital markets is not developed here, does it mean they are selling peso securities overseas? Is there a market for that or are they re-packaged with currency swap arrangements into $ risks for investors? Just trying to understand the level of sophistication in Philippines financial market.

          • karl garcia says:

            Abstract
            This paper focuses on the legal environment, particularly the insolvency system, that would influence the success of Philippine Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs), also known as asset management companies (AMCs) in other countries. Since SPVs will have to operate under a given insolvency regime after they acquire the bad assets, existing bankruptcy procedures have an impact on SPV behavior, ex-ante. In particular, it influences the price that SPVs offer for the NPAs that, in turn, affects the banks’ willingness to sell, and thus the achievement of the government goal of banks’ bad loans clean-up.
            The paper discusses the features of the SPV Act, the pace of bad asset transfers to SPVs, the current rehabilitation procedures, and the proposed legal bankruptcy reforms that would affect the effectiveness of SPVs.

            http://dirp3.pids.gov.ph/ris/dps/pidsdps0506.pdf

            Chempo, above is a paper regarding SPV published 2005

          • RHiro says:

            1. Have no way of knowing the facts on end of write-offs…Please note that BPI absorbed the assets of Far East Bank and wrote off all the loses on the bad loans and kept the assets that have now risen in value…The same with BDO who took over PCI and Equitable Bank.

            2. SPAVs resold these loans to foreign investors. Today the real estate collaterals are more valuable than the loan values they were bought for… Hence the push for lifting restrictions on land ownership…

            Peso bonds can be bought by foreign investors but they bring in forex to buy the peso bonds.

            Please note that for any foreign investor one can buy currency hedges.

  21. Micha says:

    From the link provided by karl garcia:

    Firstly, the underlying concept of the money multiplier is that in order to make loans banks first require people to deposit money. However, this is simply not true. In actual fact when banks lend they create deposits:

    This paper contends that the emphasis on policy-induced changes in deposits is misplaced. If anything, the process actually works in reverse, with loans driving deposits. In particular, it is argued that the concept of the money multiplier is flawed and uninformative in terms of analyzing the dynamics of bank lending. Under a fiat money standard and liberalized financial system, there is no exogenous constraint on the supply of credit except through regulatory capital requirements. An adequately capitalized banking system can always fulfill the demand for loans if it wishes to. – Piti Distayat and Claudio Bori, Bank for International Settlements (2009)

    Nor do banks need reserves in order to make loans. As Alan Holmes, who was senior Vice President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York at the time remarked:

    “In the real world, banks extend credit, creating deposits in the process , and look for the reserves later.” – Alan Holmes, then Senior Vice President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York (1969)

    The vice president of the ECB had something similar to say:

    “It is argued by some that financial institutions would be free to instantly transform their loans from the central bank into credit to the non-financial sector. This fits into the old theoretical view about the credit multiplier according to which the sequence of money creation goes from the primary liquidity created by central banks to total money supply created by banks via their credit decisions. In reality the sequence works more in the opposite direction with banks taking first their credit decisions and then looking for the necessary funding and reserves of central bank money.” – Vitor Constancio, vice president of the ECB (2011)

    http://positivemoney.org/how-money-works/advanced/the-money-multiplier-and-other-myths-about-banking/

    • Joe America says:

      Okay, now this makes more sense, that lending creates deposits, which it does. But without deposits, the loans will not be made. Rather like chicken and egg, but the egg (deposits) come first. And all those community and commercial bankers, whom you don’t trust to run things as well as you can, drool to get “core deposits”, those cheap funds from consumers and small business, that give them the spreads they like.

      What are the practical implications of your point though, that banks should stop looking for deposits? I’m not grasping the applied value of the intellectual debate.

      • caliphman says:

        Me neither. Not sure why anyone except these cited bankers are attaching any importance to whether deposits or loans are considered first in figuring out the maximum multiple by which the central bank reserve requirement can can create throughout the monetary system given an initial deposit. Whether the chicken or the egg came first, at the end off the day the banks involved in the chain of deposits and loans triggered by the initial new deposit will be required to deposit reserves with the central bank which determines the maximum total amount of customer deposits and loans within the banking system as a whole. So in aggregate, it should be irrelevent to the issue of the maximum multiplier.

        • Joe America says:

          If that whole MMT debate was as the banking debate, then I won’t worry so much about it. These theories seem to me to be academic (that is meaningless, except within the academic world) unless they can actually be applied to make things work better.

          • Micha says:

            Yes, don’t worry about it Joe, it’s just academic bullshit.

            Quantum physics which gave us our modern amenities like the internet, smartphones, TV, computers, GPS, weather sattelites, etc. was also concocted in the halls of the academe.

            Academic world is inconsequential to the real world, I agree.

            • Joe America says:

              I’m glad we agree on that. The difference, of course, is that quantum physics was translated into something practical. That’s what I’m suggesting you do lest the ideas remain in the venue of bullshit forever.

      • Micha says:

        The practical implication is that when banks make loans, they create new money.That it is no longer valid to assume that money supply is constant, that money is just being re-cycled or re-circulated from savers to borrowers.

        The implication is that private banks, in the act of granting a loan, is co-opting – arrogating unto itself – the power of the state to create money. 97% of money supply is bank created.

        The implication is that it validates the claim by the CEO of Goldman Sachs, Lloyd Blankfein, that bankers like him are doing God’s work. Such arrogant claim from the chief of a firm who’s viewed by many as a global octopus strangling the rest of humanity. What he probably meant is that, by having discovered the power to create money, bankers have become like God who willed creation of the whole universe into existence by fiat. And indeed most Wall Street bankers have also made the claim that they are the “masters of the universe”.

        So there…some implications.

        • RHiro says:

          Micha you seem to have a comprehension problem about the multiplier effect of loans…

          I have a banking relationship with my bank.. I need to expand. All my deposits and future deposits are pledged to the bank…A lot of my assets are pledged as collateral to the bank. I take out a loan and the loan becomes the income of my suppliers… They then deposit the income in their own banks and probably take different forms of loans to fulfill their order to me…

          Please note that the new orders require my suppliers to increase production and hire more workers… Depending on how deep and broad the supply chain is domestically they may have to place orders with their international suppliers.

          I put the expenditure side of the economy but did not bother to put in the production side which is quite extensive with three basic sectors with many sub-sectors…

          Everything has a beginning which starts with savings…

          Cash in circulation plus deposits in banks comprise the total money supply including the debt created after a certain period…

          Jewelers became the first bankers since their clients asked them to store their gold valuables and these pawnshops issued them receipts… These receipts became negotiable instruments in the then embryo of the exchange economy in Venice…That is the origin of paper money banking.. Pawnshop operators knew that their clients would not withdraw their jewelry for certain periods and not all would withdraw at the same time…

          Hence the term fractional reserve banking…Those receipts then became the medium of exchange and the value derived from the gold jewelry on deposit with the jeweler…

          Banks have the power to issue credit which functions as the new money creation process.

          That new money then fuels more credit creation or new money depending on the item being purchased.

          It becomes the fuel that drives the labor value added function of the supply side…

          When my bank lends me they credit my checking account with funds…This is the new money created derived from my assets (savings in many forms) pledged to the bank…The process of multiplication will then start…

          “Thus, after all, the actual rates of aggregate saving and spending do not depend on Precaution, Foresight, Calculation, Improvement, Independence, Enterprise, Pride or Avarice. Virtue and vice play no part. It all depends on how far the rate of interest is favourable to investment, after taking account of the marginal efficiency of capital. No, this is an overstatement. If the rate of interest were so governed as to maintain continuous full employment, virtue would resume her sway;– the rate of capital accumulation would depend on the weakness of the propensity to consume. Thus, once again, the tribute that classical economists pay to her is due to their concealed assumption that the rate of interest always is so governed.”
          ― John Maynard Keynes, The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money

      • Micha says:

        Further implication is that, by exposing this reality into light, it leverages the call to scrutinize the irresponsible behavior of banks which led to global suffering caused by the global financial crisis.

        • Joe America says:

          I think the irresponsibility of banks was evident by their failing or rescue by the government. If the argument is to be applied, it needs to be made simpler, so politicians can understand it. It should also be attached to proposed solutions that respect the role banks generally play constructively. Otherwise, it is just for academic value or sloganeering.

      • chempo says:

        Joe, there is an academic view and there is a real-world banking view.

        1. There are two forms of currency. The notes and coins which are created out of nowhere by the govt. The aggregate they wish to print is withing their control — whether they keep an out for their GDP or they want to go banana. The second is the electronic currency created by fractional banking. The aggregate is finite. It depends on the quantum of notes printed and the reserve requirements. No Nobel Peace price adcaemics, Goldman Sach top honchoes, not even God, can create more than that.

        2. This chicken and egg talk — lending out first or getting deposits first, are school kid deliberations. In the real banking operations world, there is no issue at all.
        (a) In a small town bank in Palawan for example, they have to operate on the basis of knowing the funds they have before they make a lending decision. The have paid up capital funds and deposit funds. They must have their sources of funds readily available when they commit to a loan request.
        (b) In big town banks they have more sources of funds — capital, deposits, and long term debts. Again, they have ready pool of funds available for them to lend out.
        (c) In large wholesale banks — they have same funds as (b), plus one very important thing — they have tremendous amount of credit lines from various institutions, mostly correspondent money market lines. Thus they are never worried of funds availability. Of course they work within their funding capability. The moment their borrower draws down on a loan and they have insufficient inhouse funds, they draw on their credit lines. That’s the way banks operate. On pools of funds and credit lines. Nobody works piece meal, receive 50,000 pesos and lend out 50,ooo pesos. Or lend out 50,000 then seek for 50,000 funds.

        3. Reserve requirement compliance is a post-fact thing. Banks watch out for this at every end of business day. Depends on how the day has played out, they have certain balances in their reserve asset accounts which must be measured against their deposit liability balances. If insufficient, they borrow overnight interbank.

        • Joe America says:

          Right, I understand the real world, having worked in it. I don’t understand the applied value of the academic exercises.

          • Micha says:

            I don’t know if you realized it Joe, but this classical model of banking is what keeps the economy stagnant. Or, to be precise, this is why we have accumulation of wealth in the hands of the very few and the impoverishment of the many.

            • Joe America says:

              I will accept it when you indicate what changes need to be made in the business of banking to do better, and if that makes sense. Until then, it is just theoretical.The statement “accumulation of wealth in the hands of the very few and the impoverishment of the many” is what the leftists shout as they propose nothing new but the destruction of what we know. Specifically, what should be done to change banking to moderate the division of wealth. That gap to me seems to be created by things other than banking, which is rather functionary, but on political and supreme court decisions.

              • Micha says:

                I will accept it when you indicate what changes need to be made in the business of banking to do better.

                1. Get rid of the reserve ratio. It’s redundant in modern banking.

                2. Provide interest free loans. Or at least significantly lower the rates.

                3. Discourage/regulate/penalize bubble-generating irresponsible lending.

                4. Provide greater access to gov’t funded banking institutions.

                5. Broaden services provided by gov’t banks.

              • Joe America says:

                1. Chempo would have to address
                2. Bankers would scratch their heads wondering how to make money. They could not afford to pay much interest on deposits and fees would be very high.
                3. Good idea.
                4. Good idea.
                5. Good idea.

        • Micha says:

          @chempo

          Ok, going by your narrative, it implies that the only source of growth – the expansion of economic activity and, by consequence, the expansion of money supply – could only come from the agencies of the state, mainly but not exclusive to the Central Bank and the Treasury (Finance) Department. Do you agree?

          • chempo says:

            This is my view, and remember, I’m not an economist.
            Economic activities in a capitalist economy are driven by private enterprises. The govt sets the regulatory structure that either facilitates or hinders these private endeavours. The govt also participates in these economic activities in that they are also consumers of capital and resources when they initiate infrastructure development. To that extent, govt is a critical player.

            • Micha says:

              If bank capital is finite – recycled from savers to borrowers – where or how do you get the room for expansion (growth)?

              • chempo says:

                That’s where all those money supply modelling software and the economic geniuses at the central banks come in. The monitor the money supply adequacy for the economy. If money supply becomes too tight, it means you have a bigger GDP necessitating additional supply to oil the economy. So the central bank prints more. But if money supply is at the right level and you don’t have enough capital, then external borrowing is required.

              • Micha says:

                It is misleading to say that Central Banks pump additional money only when it detects bigger GDP because you cannot have bigger GDP when your money supply is finite (constant) in the first place.

              • chempo says:

                Micha, you can always print, and responsible govt do print, whenever their economies grow. Money supply is not finite. In the contect of what I said earlier, the banking credit expansion is finite relative to the the aggregate of printed currency.

              • Micha says:

                Responsible sovereign gov’ts print money, inject it into the economy either thru direct gov’t spending or give it to private banks to be utilized as loan instruments. Then you will see an increase in GDP.

  22. caliphman says:

    I do not know if any of those central bankers had much experience running a commercial bank or any retail deposit taking and loan bank because they seem so totally clueless. The deposit taking function is run as a core business with an organization and very separate and independent from the loan and credit approval business and function. It has to be and with none of this fictional chicken and egg issues. The retail branch has as its primary focus attracting low cost deposits from the public and businesses and is run as a profit center, its profit basically being the difference between the bank pays for internally generated funds after subtracting the cost of attracting and servicing deposits. The loan department is its own profit center and generates revenue from its existing loan portfolio and new loans which have been credit approved from customer applications. Coordination between the profit centers is the responsibility of the asset/liability management commitee including making sure that the bank oprations are in regulatory compliance.

    But definitely, no madeup chicken and egg issues made up by central bankers with no banking operations experience except that derived from textbooks or academics!

    • Micha says:

      Janet Yellen, Mario Draghi, Amando Tetangco are clueless?

      • chempo says:

        With all respects for these mentioned, I don’t know the context of their words so I can’t comment. But it’s my experience that many who accquired high academic credentials and helicopter dropped into high positions often lack the detailed understanding of those who worked their way up from the ground floor.

        • Micha says:

          But to say that central bankers are clueless about the basics of banking? Hahahahaha…

          • caliphman says:

            Micha, if you read my post carefully, it refers to clueless about running a bank or banking operations which is different from banking as a concept. Furthermore, the central bankers with their quotes on the chicken and the egg issue which came from you is relevant and not Draghi nor Bernanke, the latter I believe was a Ivy League Economics professor and an economist.it sometimes helps to be precise and not all over the place when discussing an issue

            • caliphman says:

              My bad, Yerllen did replace Bernanke at the Fed but she comes from the same background. Peace..I only know a little bit more than most about bank ops only because I used to have several bank as consulting clients.

          • R.Hiro says:

            A product of the Great depression was the Glass Steagal Act..This law separated commercial banking from investment banking. Since the introduction of deposit insurance governments did not want banks to be involved in both activities with insured funds…

            As part of the neo-liberal framework this law was repealed in the nineties…

            The financial crisis started in the investment banking circles. Even Greenspan was shocked at the extent of the crisis. He was caught flat footed as he was one of the earlier proponents of deregulating the commodity futures market…

            Merton and Sholes innovation of pricing options set the stage for succeeding crisis.

            Greenspan even conceded in a congressional hearing that they were having difficulty with the proper definition of money…The crisis started with the huge increase in M-3 with highly leveraged positions…

            The financial genius’s of the world actually blew up the financial system of the world with the able assistance of Greenspan, Summers and Rubin..

            It was run at the level of wholesale banking…Banks lost confidence in one another due to the proliferation of highly distressed real estate assets that formed the base of securities.

            Money markets between banks seized up…

            http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-12-23/fed-s-once-secret-data-compiled-by-bloomberg-released-to-public

    • Joe America says:

      I’m with you on the matter. You clearly know banking the way it is done as a business.

  23. https://www.senate.gov.ph/press_release/2016/0128_aquino1.asp

    A senator has filed a measure to strengthen the country’s Islamic banking system to give Filipino-Muslim entrepreneurs access to financing and other services that are compliant with the principles Shari’ah or Islamic law, while the much debated Bangsamoro Basic Law is still being deliberated.

    Sen. Bam Aquino’s Senate Bill No. 3150 or the Philippine Islamic Financing Act of 2016 seeks to amend the charter of the Al-Amanah Islamic Investment Bank of the Philippines, the only Islamic Bank in the country established in 1973.

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