Binay at Marcos: ginagago ang Pilipinas
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Sinulat ni Joe America, October 22, 2015
Sinalin ni Juana Pilipinas
Magsimula tayo na unawaain ang termino.
Ang terminong “dumbing down” (ginagago o tinatanga) ay nangaling sa “slang” ng mga negosyante sa pinilakang tabing nuong 1933 na ginagamit ng mga tagasulat ng istorya sa pelikula, ang ibig sabihin nito ay: rebisahin o baguhin para maging kaaya-aya sa mga mababa ang pinag-aralan o sa mga mababaw ang katalinuhan. [Wiki]
Meron tayong dalawang pambansang kandidato na gumagago sa Pilipinas. Ito lang ang kanilang magagawa para sila ay mahalal. Pinili ng bantog na senadorang Miriam Santiago ang isa sa kanila para maging katuwang niya sa halalan, na nagpapatunay na ang senadora ay mapagbiro at may kapasawayan. Ang problema ay hindi ito nakakatawa.
Ito ay pagpipili sa pagbabalik o pagsulong.
Ang pamilyang Binay at Marcos ay nagnanasang burahin ang mga inpormasyon sa talang pampubliko at palitan ito ng bagong impormasyon na pabor sa kanila. Sa pamamagitan nito, nais nilang himukin ang mga botante na iboto sila sa 2016.
Ito ay taliwas sa mga gawing ating pinahahalagaan: katapatan, pananagutan at pagtataas ng ekonomiya at ng reputasyon ng ating bansa. Ito ay mahahalintulad sa proganda na may masamang motibo o brainwashing. Ang dalawang pamilyang ito nagnanais na alisin ang katotohanan at palitan ito ng gawa-gawang kasaysayan.
Impormasyong aalisin sa mata ng publiko
Ang mga Binay ay nagnanasang alisin ang mga ebidensya ng kanilang pagnanakaw sa mata ng publiko. Ginagawa nila ito sa pamamagitan ng pagtanggi sa lahat ng alegasyon ng kanilang korupsyon, pambabahid ng putik sa mga saksi at kalaban, at pagsasampa ng kaso para sugpuin at supilin ang mga kilos ng mga taong maaring maglantad ng kanilang pagkakasala. Kung sinusubaybayan mo mga pahayag ng pamilyang Binay, makikita mo na ang kanilang gawa at salita ay akmang akma. Hindi ito kagagawan lang isang tao. Ang buong pamilya ay magkakasabwat.
Bakit?
Ito ang panahon kung magwawagi o matatalo ang mga Binay. Hanggang ang ama ay Bise Presidente, hindi siya maaring ipakulong ng Ombudsman. Ang pagdinig sa Senado ay nagbunyag ng katotohanan sa mata ng publiko. Para sa Makati Garage, P2.3 bilyon ng inyong buwis ang nalustay para sa garahe na nagkakahalaga lamang ng P860 milyon. Ang kaso sa Ombudsman ay base dito at iba pang iregularidad, na nakaamba at puputok pagbaba ni Jejomar Binay sa kanyang pwesto. Kung matatalo siya, kulong ang kanyang kahihinathan. Dahil dito, hindi maaring sumandal sa katotohanan ang pamilyang Binay.
Ang araw ng paghahatol ay ang araw ng halalan.
Pareho din sa mga Binay ang kalagayan ng mga pamilyang Marcos. Ang inpormasyong aalisin nila sa mata ng mamamayan ay ang mga masasamang ginawa ni Presidente Ferdinand Marcos, at ang bilyon-bilyong perang ninakaw sa kaban ng bayan, karamihan nito ay hawak parin ng pamilyang Marcos. Ang pagpatay at pagpapahirap (tortyur) at paglalaho ng libo-libong mamamayan. Nais ng mga Marcos na burahin ang kasaysayang ito.
Nasa record book si Ferdinand Marcos bilang pangalawang kurap na lider sa buong mundo [“World’s ten most corrupt leaders“]. Ang kasaysayang ito ay dapat na i-“deep sixed” ng pamilyang Marcos, para kung walang makakakita nito, mawawala na ito sa isip ng mamamayan. [Ano ang “deep sixed”?: paglilibing ng anim na piye, gaya ng mga patay sa sementeryo.] Ito ang pakana: kung ang mga sumusuporta kay Bongbong Marcos ay maaring mapalibing si Presidente Marcos sa Libingan ng Bayani, ang nasa ng pamilyang Marcos ay magaganap. Ang kanilang kahihiyan ay magiging kagitingan.
Ang paraan ng pamilyang Marcos ay ang pagputol ng koneksyon ng masamang reputasyon ng kanyang ama sa kandidatura ni Bongbong habang ginagamit niya ang mga mabuting nagawa nito. Iyan ang makikita ninyo sa mga pahayag ni Bongbong, ng kanyang pamilya, ng kanyang katuwang na si Senadora Miriam Santiago, ng mga sumusuporta sa kanya: magdiskonekta sa masama, magkonekta sa mabuti.
Impormasyong isisingit sa talang pampubliko
Ang pamilyang Binay at Marcos ay may pinakamahalagang hangad: ipakita na ang mga programa at proyekto ni Presidente Aquino ay palpak, walang bisa, wala sa ayos o kung ano pang mga alipusta para ipalabas na masama ang mga ito. Dahil dito, masasabit din and kandidatura ni Roxas at magbibigay ito ng plataporma kay Binay at Marcos na kung saan nila ipapangako sa sambayanan ang buwan. Iyan ang kanilang unang panlilinlang, ang kanilang numero unong hangad na palitan ang tunay na kasaysayan ng kanilang buhay.
Ang pagbabaluktot ng katotohanan ay madali lang, dahil marami sa mga mamamayan ang madaling magoyo. Tulad ng problema sa tren (MRT), marami ang naniniwalang kasalanan ito ng administrasyong Aquino – dahil LAHAT ng kanilang gawa – ay palpak. Pinakamasamang paliparan sa mundo (“Worst airport in the world”) ay patunay na hindi epektibo and Daang Matuwid. Kahit na namana ni Aquino ang sira sirang airport at ang administrasyon niya ang gumasta para mapabuti ito.
Ang mga Pilipino ay okey lang pagdating sa mga magnanakaw at masasamang opisyal ng gubyerno at hindi okey sa konting pagkukulang ng mga mabubuting opisyal. Isip isip lang . . .
Marami ang nagdedesisyon ng walang batayan o kaya binabase nila ito sa hakahaka ng midyang pangmasa. Ang kritikal na pag-iisip ay hindi uso dito. Impresyon, paramdam, simpleng desisyon ang pinaniniwalaan at hindi kinukuwestyon…iyan ang madalas na nagwawagi.
Ang istilo ng mga Binay at Marcos ay ang makisakay sa himutok ng masa at ulit ulitin ito. Hindi mahalaga ang katotohanan. (Si Senador Poe at Escudero ay ganito din ang istilo.)
Dahil dito, pati ang mga mamamayan ay di na rin naghahanap ng ibang katunayan, gaya ng paglago ng GDP o mga lansangan na pinagawa sa ilang panig ng bansa o ang maipagmamalaking programa sa paghahanda sa mga kalamidad o ang mga bagong kagamitang militar o ang mga 100,000 bagong silid aralan o kahit na anong mabuting nagawa ng kasalukuyang administrasyon. Ang pagtimbang ng katinuan at pagkatao ay yari na, sa istilong talangka, dahil sa isa o dalawang punto ng reklamo. Ang hatol ay napakalupit.
Lampas pa sa hatol sa administrasyon – at kay Roxas- na sila ay palpak, ang gusto ng mga Binay at Marcos ay ang magtahi o maglala ng bagong katotohanan. Sa mga Binay, ipapangalandakan nila kung paano nila pinaunlad ang Makati dahil sa mahusay na pamamahala Jejomar Binay. Sa mga Marcos naman, ipagmamalaki nila ang mga mabuting ginawa ni Presidente Marcos at kung ano ang nagawa at ginagawa ngayon ni Bongbong. Walang halaga kung dalawang batas lang ang inisponsor ng grupo niya sa Senado at ang kanyang paghadlang sa Bangsamoro Basic Law ay sanhi ng kung bakit wala pang kapayapaan sa Mindanao ngayon.
Pareho ang pahayag ng mga Binay at Marcos na sila ay mapagmamalasakit sa mga mamamayan at inuulit-ulit nila ito. Inuugnay nila ang kahirapan ng mamamayan na gawa ng dekadang pagpapabaya at sisisihin nila ang kasalukuyang administrasyon. Ipagsisigawan nila na si Presidente Aquino ay kurap din at mayaman si Roxas kaya siya ay hindi katulad nila at ninyo.
Ang bagong inpormasyon na linalagay nila sa pamamagitan ng kanilang salaysay ay puro baluktot at kasinungalingan. Ang may ari ng malaking hacienda na may air conditioned piggery ay nagkakamay para ipakita niya na siya ay galing sa karalitaan. Ang Ombudsman (Conchita Morales) ay inakusahan nila na alagad ni Aquino. Inakusahan din nila ang Secretary of Justice (Leila de Lima) na namumulitika nuong nagprotesta ang mga Iglesia ni Cristo. Itinuturo din nila si Roxas sa kahit ano mang masamang balita tungkol kanilang pamilya.
Ang mga media tabloids ang mga TV reporters ay mayaman sa mga maling inpormasyon, pati na ang mga namamahala ng mga balita. . . imbes na sabihan nila ang kanilang mga empleyado na maging tapat at matino . . . kinukunsinti nila ang mga akusasyon at maling inpormasyon.
Sino ang mga taong ginagago?
Meron silang grupo ng tagataguyod na naglalaban para sa kanila. Kasabwat sila sa pagsisinungaling, panlilinlang at pambubura ng katotohanan sa isip ng tao. Sila ay maaring: (1) bayaran (tagapagsalita, abugado, at mga tagapagtangol sa internet o yung hakot sa mga rally at yung nagbebenta ng kanilang boto) o (2) makikinabang kung mananalo si Binay o si Marcos (mga Mayor ng Sister City ni Binay, at ang mga local na tagasuporta sa Hilagang Luzon at Leyte ni Marcos; at ni Senadora Santiago).
Ayon sa kwento ng mga tao mayroon daw malaking lagak na pera para sa eleksyon ang dalawang pamilya na pambili ng mga maimpluensyang tao. Sa aming bayan, ang pamilyang Marcos daw ay namumudbod ng naka-bag na salapi sa mga pamilyang may hila. Namimigay din daw sila ng sa mga maralita. . . yero, tabla at pagkain.
Ang mga maralita at hindi nagtapos ng pag aaral ay walang paki, o walang malay na sa kanilang boto nakasalalay ang kanilang magandang kinabukasan at hindi matindi and kanilang pagmamahal sa bayan. Hindi rin nila alam ang hastag na #NeverAgain (Huwag ibalik ang Martial Law ni Makoy).
Yung mga umiimpluwensya sa mga tao para sa kanila ay HINDI nila ginagawang tanga. Alam ng mga ito kung ano ang kanilang ginagawa. Inaalagaan lang nila ang kanilang kapakanan, imbes na ang kabutihan ng buong bansa. Pumapayag silang linlangin ang mga tao. Sila ay kakaibang makabayan. Kasama na si Senadora.
Ang mga ginagawa nilang tanga ay yung mga taong naniniwala sa sabi-sabi o haka-haka ng ibang tao imbes na sa nakasulat na katotohanan.
Marami sa mga botante ang ganito.
Marami din sa kanila ang matatalino. Matataas ang pinag-aralan. May nagtapos sa kolehiyo. Mga propesyunal. Pero hindi sila din sila nananaliksik.
Ang tawag ni Contributor Irineo sa kanila ay botanteng palengkero, dahil sa palengke nanggagaling ang impormasyon na basehan ng kanilang boto. Ang paglago ng GDP at mga imprastraktura ay hindi pinag-uusapan sa palengke. Ang palengke ay kahalintulad ng mga kapihan sa mga kabataan, o ng grupo sa Facebook, na hindi rin naghahanap ng inpormasyon, kundi ito dramatiko, bongga o popular sa kanilang mga kaibigan.
Nakikisama sila sa mga dramatikong mandaraya – ang ilusyong pinagbibili- imbes na manaliksik o ipagtanggol ang katapatan dahil hindi ito macho.
Ang Sariling Kamalayan ay hindi uso sa Pilipinas
Madaling mawalan ng pag-asa tungkol sa Pilipinas. Kung minsan parang ang bayan ay pinanganak na talunan.
Karamihan sa mga taumbayan, ang kanilang kamangmangan ay ang nagpapahayag ng kanilang pagpapahalaga sa kanilang sarili. Ayaw nilang makinig sa hindi nila alam. Ang terminong “gahi ulo” ang una kong natutunan sa Pilipinas dahil palagi itong ginagamit sa mga usapang lokal dito sa Bisaya. Matigas ang ulo. Hindi tumatagos sa ulo ang katalinuhan. Linalabanan ang mga aralin.
Meron din walang nasang malaman ang lampas sa kailangan nila sa araw araw at meron ding may nais na patahimikin yung mga tao na hindi umaayon sa kanila. Pinapahayag nito ang klase ng mga tao na kuntento sa kanilang kamangmangan kaya madaling gamitin ng mga katulad ng mga pamilyang Binay at Marcos , na naghahanap ng mga pwede nilang gaguhin. Dahil ang makabuluhan at totoong impormasyon ay mapanganib sa kanila.
Ang taong nagkakalat ng makabuluhan at makatotohanang balita ay kailangan nilang patahimikin.
Si Andrew Lim ay sumulat ng isang makatotohanang artikulo tungkol sa mga ninakaw na yaman ng mga Marcos [“Return the ill-gotten wealth first, Bongbong“] at kanyang gamtipala ay ito:
“Pilipino ba si Andrew Lim? Huwag kang makialam sa paksang Pilipino.” (“Is Andrew lim Filipino? Leave the Filipino people alone.)”
Iyan ang ehemplo ng mga nananakot sa mga taong nagnanais na umunlad ang Pilipinas. Sila ay anino ng kanilang mga idolo, ang mga Binay at Marcos. Marami sa kanilang taga-suporta ay mga siga na pabor sa kamangmangan at ayaw mangibabaw ang katapatan at kaunlaran ng Pilipinas.
Iyan ang nangyayari kapag ang mga namumuno ang gumigiit na itago ang boses ng mga tapat at matino para ang kanilang mensahe lang ang matitira. May panganib na magbabalik ang pangunguntrol ng mga Marcos. At ang lupit na kailangan para maipatupad ito.
Kami na umu-obserba sa labas ang nakakakita ng mga malinaw na nangyayari. Parang pinanunuod namin ay isang tren na mabagal na tumutungo sa impyerno.
Ito ang aming tanong — sa mga tagapagtaguyod ng mga Binay at Marcos:
Bakit ninyo ito ginagawa sa inyong bayan? Sa inyong mga kababayan?
The Society of Honor by Joe America 
I see at least 3 missing prepositions and a typo, so to the lady who requested this to be translated, kindly edit before handing out copies. Thank you.
Biased article, how about hacienda luisita? Janet lim napoles? Yolanda funds? Kingina ng administrasyong Aquino, wag kayo magmalinis . ambango bango ng names nyo dito sa article na to samantalang dami nyong kapalpakan. Wag kami iba na lang.
Ang artikulong ito ang nagdudumilat na katotohanan sa ating lipunan. Napakalinaw at may basehan, ngayon kung ikaw ay bulag o nagbubulagbulagan, lason mo na yan.
Wala ka ng magagaawa kapatid…. Wag na iboto so binay..si bbm na lng… Dahil sya ang pagasa ng lahat ng infrastractura hawak nila ang mga blueprint ng malalaking proyekto sa pilipinas…angwealth ng marcos ay sa saruling kayod ni macoy un…let bbm win…wag na lang ang iba..ok…ty
Nagdidiliryo ka, kapatid. Aspirin lang ang katapat nyan.
Saan nakayod ni Makoy ang bilyon-bilyong dolyar na yaman nila? Basahin mo ito para malaman mo kung magkano ang sweldo niya at magkano ang nasa bulsa nila nuong pinalayas sila ng taumbayan:
5 hanggang 10 bilyong dolyar ang nakatagong yaman nila nuong 1986, and sweldo ng presidente nuon ay P100,000 kada taon. Kwentahin mo yan at sabihin mo sa lelang mo ang “kayod” ni Makoy.
Son, kung si bm ang ihalal natin, eh di maglilipana na ang coccaine sa Pinas. Anong ibubugang matino ng isang addict sa coccaine. Forget about bbm’s bad bloodline. The philippines will take a back seat again if you elect any of these proven corruptors.
Son, pakiusap lang–pakibasa ang mga links. Maaring wala kang tiwala sa mga local sources kasi pwede mong isipin na may bahid politika at may isinusulong na pansariling interes. Pero napakadaming links mula sa credible, independent at legit international organizations na naglalahad ng pagnakaw,pagpatay at pagmamalabis ng mga Marcoses. Kung mayroon kang mga sources saying otherwise, maaari mo ba silang banggitin? Sana mag-isip kang mabuti at maging mapanuri. Para sa pamilya mo at balang araw sa iyong mga anak.
Hacienda Luisita is irrelevant to presidential performance. Janet Napoles is in jail. Yolanda funds have been used responsibly for all that I know. Civic buildings were rebuilt quickly. Visayas mayors and governors outside of Tacloban have expressed appreciation for the work done. I’ve personally seen it. One does not build houses for people who never had real ones in the first place without a lot of work to get funding, sites and buildings. If you have a positive statement to make in favor of a candidate, kindly make it. But this crabby criticism that bends the truth in favor of simplistic statements is EXACTLY the dumbing down of which I write.
“Wag kami iba na lang.” this last statement is the key Joe…it is about a feeling folks have. The rest is just stuff they say. Rationalizations for an emotional reaction.
Self-righteous, sanctimonious, hypocritical. Is what many think of Daang Matuwid.
http://filipinogerman.blogsport.eu/reconstitute-the-philippines/ – Can’t blame them, since they are assuming this is being followed:
Article 5. Ordinary people and our political enemies are suspect, we are beyond doubt.
The hard sell is convincing people who believe that the Filipino elite is CONSTITUTED that way “in saeculo saeculorum” – who probably think Article 4 will apply once Roxas wins.
There are a couple of cultural attributes that come together to generate this negative view, I think. Lack of trust, and lack of the ABILITY to trust (which requires sacrificing one’s own need to be right all the time). Cumulative effect of the brainwashers (those with an agenda), as fed through the media. Esteem issues that come into the picture when trying to defend something (getting labeled yellowtard); easier to join the baying crowd.
The individual Filipino is to some extent constituted by his cultural surroundings. That leaves room for hope that education can change individuals one at a time so they become more rational and less susceptible to the negative passions.
Not just education. They will have to SEE that fairness and equal opportunities EXIST. They haven’t seen an elephant fly in their lives and neither have they seen those.
They will see us as suck-ups (sipsip) looking for pull (kapit) with the ruling group.
The fear in the back of their heads is that “we” will benefit in some way and “they” will be left in the dirt. That if “we” do something wrong, it will be ignored, but if “they” do something wrong they will be punished. MRPs writes “only the dark-skinned Filipinos get accused of corruption, the mestizo class never”. Now it has often been that way, and people haven’t seen anything else. It’s like me telling you “I am a flying hippopotamus”.
I will give an example from my own experience. With my “two mothers” – my German mother and my Ilokana nanny. Now my yaya is so hardheaded and distrustful sometimes that my brother and me, as little children, used to call her a carabao when alone.
BUT my mother consistently showed her what fairness is. Send her to evening classes. But didn’t let her off the hook when stuff went wrong. So her loyalty to my mother is total.
Another example: American rule in the Philippines. A lot of the older folks who fondly remember American rule do so because there was such a thing as fairness and equal opportunity. U.P. -founded 1908 – used to be a place where you could rise up from poverty. It has become dynastic and exclusive in many ways. The automatic U.P. scholarship for valedictorians and salutatorians of every public school was abolished in the 60s or 70s. There are professorial dynasties there. More rich kids than before.
A foreign example: Romanian project. I can be very tough when it comes to smoking out issues – that is what I am paid for. Noticed the locals in the project were sweeping dirt under the rug. Caught them. They started defending and justifying themselves. I said hey guys this is not about blame and punishment. This is about finding what went wrong and fixing it as quickly as possible. They looked at me like I was someone from outer space.
What people haven’t experienced they can’t believe in easily. Marco Polo was called a liar.
Binalik na ito Ireneo nina Cayetano and a few other senators.
The HS top ten scholarship.
gian, I still can’t open the 18 pics you posted, Id like to share them, i have so many young FB friends now.
Yes, good point, but there are signs that more people are starting to believe there is an upside, and 6 more years of robust growth, with some diversification of economic strength, and those opportunities ought to become apparent. Not cured. But felt.
Exactly… the orchard is bearing fruit. The trouble is those who haven’t tasted much of that fruit yet. Because there are forces that wish to eat the fruit without tending the orchard.
– One would like to turn the orchard into a piggery after eating all the fruits.
– A crazy woman would like to turn it into a slave camp with the son of a dictator.
– Another would turn it into a film studio, play Alice in Wonderland and neglect the trees
There is only one competent agribusinessman and that is Mar. With a VP who knows how to motivate employees because she has strong people skills. To grow the orchard.
Back on topic I have an idea for a meme, based on Star Wars 7:
A picture of old Han Solo telling the young people who have forgotten: “yes, it’s all real, the Jedi, the Dark Side”.
But with the following text: “yes, it’s all real, the Marcos dictatorship, the February revolution, the struggle to regain our freedom”.
shut up joe america….cge lng ka depensa anang imo mar roxas…..hikog paka….kapoy nmo….
Is dumbing down in Tagalog: GINAGAGO, what do you call then the dumbed downs?
NAGAGO ?, pero baka NAKINABANG lang.
Kapit sa magnanakaw, bahala na ang mga iba sa mga buhay nila. Hindi nila alam na sa bandang huli, sila rin ang madedehado. Sa takaw nila gugutumin nila ang sambayanan.
I can’t answer that. But I know I’ve received several comments on Twitter and Facebook as to how the translation gets the point across better than the English version.
Yep, it does… ginagago can mean dumbing down.. or bullshitting.
Who gives a shit about your pathetic ramblings to begin with? For someone who hasn’t got balls enough to give everyone here the turth of who he REALLY is. Either in pictures or a bio.
Sure does enjoy shooting his mouth off about the current administration. And its opposition.
Terry, I originally sent your comment to “spam” because I get a lot of these. People who object to the message drop by to fire off an insult, rather like an adolescent teen pushing out his chest as if it were his dick, to present his manhood whilst diminishing another’s. But I brought it back because it shows exactly the point of the blog, the empty, uncivil, intimidating method of those seeking to dumb down the Philippines. Who cares who JoeAm is, anyway, except people grasping desperately for advantage? The discussions here are vibrant and filled with insight. That, of course, is what is intimidating to little pissants like you who can’t articulate a positive message in favor of your candidate (who is likely a thug as well), and who therefore wave their dicks around . . . as if we cared.
halata naman na one-sided ang article mo. PNOY ikaw ba yan? 🙂
The idea, jeremy, is that readers will provide the other side, if there is hole in my thinking. It requires that they present an intelligent and defensible position on their side, which few one seem inclined to do. Rather, they arrive, shoot off an insult, and leave. Or some drop off an elaborate statement and never return to address the rebuttal.
So who do you favor, and why? Put your view out there.
Joe, these kids will not explain. Because they can’t. You’re right–they just shoot and leave. Tried to engage them in different venues. Nothing. They did succeed in making my BP shoot up. But then again, we shouldn’t stop exposing the Marcoses. Otherwise these well-funded zombies will overrun us in a decade.
Yes, good point, stark. Push back. And they do behave as paid hacks would, no listen, no logic, just pound out slogans and insults. (I’ve got to put that principle into a tweet. Thanks for the idea.)
That’s your problem, JoeAm..that there are no holes in your thinking, but your identity is a big hole. 🙂 If not for your nom de plume, I’d give you 100% for credibility. Those who can’t take what you dish out, it seems to me, just don’t have enough brains to deal with the facts they can only resort to badmouthing, begging the question, etc.Being on the right side of history has its price, too old to be understood and too correct to be appreciated.
Ah, yes, but what’s a name, anyway? It attaches to a look and a personality and whatever knowledge, brainpower and compassion we are able to summon up. The only thing you can’t see is the look, which for some would resemble a target down at the shooting range. You get all the rest in the blogs. So if you read regularly, I’d guess you know more about me than you do some of your friends. 🙂 In other words, I’m rather fond of that particular hole. haha
pagkatoytoy nmo joe america….halatang bias ka….roxas ka kc….paghikog oi…..luso nmo……kapoy nmo..
Pasabi sayo ni Elizabeth Ramsey: Magapatuka ka na lang sa halas, doy.
Nakikita ko lamang sa iyong mga isinulat ay ang siraan ang pamilya Marcos, at walang konkretong basehan ang iyong mga sinalaysay. Sa aking pakiwari ay isa ka lang din sa bayaran na para siraan ang mga Marcos. Dapat siguro ang gawin mong paksa ay kung paano siraan ang isang may mabuting pangalan sa pulitka. Marami na ang katulad mo dito sa Pilipinas na kunwari ay may mabuting hangarin pero isa ka din sa may masamang hangarin. Hindi ako maka-Marcos at Binay pero dapat ang tutukan ng gobyerno ng pilipinas ay huwag na bigyan karapatan bumoto ang mga hindi nagbabayad ng tax dahil maraming mahihirap ang walang alam kundi ibenta ang kanilang mga boto.
If I understand this correctly, you are not for anyone, but are against the current government. I had a discussion yesterday on Facebook with a guy who does not like Roxas (I do). I asked him who he would vote for then, and he said no one. That’s a very safe position to take, because he can criticize anyone for anything, and keep his feet clean, while the rest of us are out figuring out who can best lead the Philippines to prosperity. If you have nothing to argue FOR, how can I respect your complaint? You present no alternative.
He is a voter of the NVP – the non-voters party. Not a very smart thing to do really.
By now having seen the economic results – and that the poor are also being helped in enabling themselve through TESDA and Dual Training (Germany companies are big in that I just saw a posting about that happening right now in Tondo, also some TESDA trainees have recently been to Germany and have visited German factories to see how the stuff works there, even were at Porsche among others) I am fully for Mar Roxas. Or if I look at the stuff Hanns-Seidel Foundation from Munich is doing – including promoting good governance and transparency in LGUS (so it is not just the big fish that are being gone after and even there the Ombudsman is doing it without fear or favor), helping cooperatives and also micro-financing for small businesses, it is not just the big guys whose live are getting better that is one of the BIG LIES that are being spread. PNP human rights training means that the small folks have police that help them not hurt them – also an HSS project. New Penal Code joint HSS-DOJ project once it gets passed hopefully means criminals might go to jail faster, now that should be followed up because I think the fear of crime is what makes Duterte popular, the draft is finished since 2014 who can tell me why or what is happening to it? Gian maybe or who else knows where to look for this stuff? Just asking for help not ordering anyone around, I am just stating something that is important. And I don’t want anybody here to tell me look for it yourself, I am contributing enough so if anyone doesn’t want to do it, don’t. http://www.hss.de/fileadmin/suedostasien/philippines/downloads/2014/HSF-Philippinen-EN__Oct_2014_.pdf
Those voters of the NVP basically surrender their rights to those that DO vote.
There are four choices, life is getting better, except I really do think the main problem of those who are not living behind subdivision walls might be the crime rate on the streets.
Living in fear can make a big difference – there is scientific proof by now that people in a state of fear revert to a simpler mode of thinking. Oplan Lambat-Sibat is a Mar Roxas achievement for sure. But again – I do not ask anyone to do it I am just giving impulses – are there any reliable statistics on the crime rate? On the perceptions of normal citizens? Because looking away or whitewashing doesn’t solve problems – any information welcome.
I am just asking some questions – there is progress for sure. But WHY do some citizens not see it. What could be the reasons:
1) crime rate on the streets? Traffic and Internet speed we have already talked about. But with 4 million slum dwellers in Metro Manila out of 11 miliion people, crime will be an issue.
2) a lot of OFWs are mad about how customs treats them at the airport, Balikbayan boxes.
3) making ends meet? The progressive taxation table that is outdated gian has written about. Progress is there but of course people who are fighting with not having enough money or paying off loansharks will say what the hell. Are there statistics on this? Are there agencies or institutions that help debtors. There is a state-funded Debtor’s Advisory Office in every German city. Teaches people how to manage their money and pay debts. Talks to the banks and even helps with legal issues. Who helps people in dire straits?
Emotional distress and fear may lead these people to think wrong – any help in sight?
They don’t see it because the sensationalism in the tabloid media is rather like Indonesian smog, blanketing everything in a grey paste of anger and pique and negativity. There is no upside for media to be positive or informative. Their readership doesn’t read it. The readership wants the dirt, the emotional edge of easy engagement. Eggs and chickens, rolling and running, and avoiding research and study.
It is short-sightedness on the part of many that make them believe the negative stuff. I am far from the old migrant crowd I used to know well – but on the day-to-day most of them had a turtle perspective to things. I think a lot of people in the Philippines still have that – not the new, confident lot I saw in the German-Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industries postings on TESDA and dual training I have on my FB page: https://www.facebook.com/filipinogermanlearning. The still negative need to be taught some life skills at the barangay level – how to step back and analyze before just griping all the time. Because mostly it is a lack of day-to-day problem solving skills that makes them be so negative. These I think are behind the pool of resentment that populists are tapping.
Ay ayoko na at once – the kind of stuff that went around after Mamasapano. Shouting and clamoring instead of stating their issues calmly and firmly. The fish market mentality – I have seen it often enough. Not the fish port mentality. Confident and forward-looking.
Thanks, Irineo. An NVP voter is rather like a guy on a pedestal that he built himself so he doesn’t have to get his feet dirty or esteem challenged like the rest of us. Safe, safe, safe. I don’t give them any credence at all, because life is full of tough choices, and we ought to be able to make them. Someone who can’t is in no position to instruct the rest of us.
By the way, change of pace, check the “Must Read” section for an article about the Telcos. Globe and Smart are stepping up service because there is a third powerful entrant coming into the field. Cheers, and here’s a San Mig to you!
My own Globe speed and access has been stepped up dramatically the past three days, operating the way it should . . . almost. What is interesting is that total bandwidth is moderated because not so much energy is wasted half-loading pages or pinging back and forth trying to get them to load.
Those issues are irrelevant. Hacienda Luisita is an Aquino-related issue and PNOY is not running in 2016. Napoles is an Enrile/Revilla/Estrada issue, none of them will ruin in 2016.
If you want to write about them then you’ve got all the right to do so, but if you want to author to write down every single evil that exists on earth, then you, my countryman, are nuts.
Isaksak mo sa baga mo ang sarili mong kamangmangan. Ilatag mo ang di mapapasubaliang katibayan ng iyong mga akusasyon.
Madali ang mag akusa, but to prove is another story.
I agree on this article, 100%.
Kaya di mo dapat sabihing ‘wag kami…, dapat ganito ang dialogue mo: ‘wag ako..,
Huwag mo akong isama sa paniniwala mong salimpat.
Ang galing mo Abe…agree!
Joe Am,
This is a very truthful article that I have ever read regarding the Binays and the Marcoses. The illiterate voters are the victims of these two plunderers. I hope your articles carry a very wide circulation so that more people can read the truth and understand the perils that they are in if they vote for these plunderers. Keep on writing the truth Joe and support all your articles of truth thugh I am far away from you . I am here in Canada but I always look for your intelligent and worthy literature regarding my beloved country. If you were running for for any political office in government, I will give you mt whole hearted support and blessing. Keep it up Joe Am.
Fred
I appreciate the reading and kind review, Fred. I’m not running for anything, but am contributing the best way I know how, which is to write directly to the point, trying for a style that connects. I trust that you enliven the Canadian chill with the special kind of people-to-people warmth found everywhere in the Philippines.
South Korea underwent a drive similar to Clean Hands 10 years later, and had similar success (or lack of it). But the point is that corruption can be tamed, although one doubts it can be killed. And in the Philippines, Morales is the best lion-tamer we have. She recognizes no political allegiance or loyalties, and is one tough lady. I salute her. Solita Monsod
That deserves a rousing second. When we talk about courage and heroes, we should look directly at the steel-willed Morales.
Sabi ni Han Solo sa Star Wars 7 sa mga kabataang nakakalimot: “totoo lahat – mga berdugo at mga bayani noong araw”. Ano ang kasunod – bumalik ang mga berdugo. Parang Pilipinas.
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Heto mga kababayan para maliwanag:
Mamamatay-tao talaga si Marcos mula noong araw, nakalusot lang sa Supreme court:
http://www.lawphil.net/judjuris/juri1940/oct1940/gr_l-47388_1940.html
Heto ang isang dokumentasyon tungkol sa pagtortyur noong hawak niya ang Pilipinas:
http://www.academia.edu/7968581/TORTYUR_Human_Rights_Violations_During_The_Marcos_Regime
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namumunga na ang mga puno ng prutas na naitanim ni Presidente Aquino. Kaya lang, maraming nang hindi makahintay at gustong kainin ang mga prutas, tapos hindi na aalagaan ang mga puno.
– iyong isa diyan, kakainin ang mga prutas, tapos magtatayo ng babuyan.
– iyong isang sira-ulo, aalipinin tayong lahat, kasabwat niya anak ng berdugo.
– iyong isa, gagawa ng pelikula, Alice in Wonderland, pababayaan ang mga puno.
Si Mar, marunong mag-alaga at magpalago ng negosyo. Si Leni, marunong sa tao at may pagmamalasakit. Sa ganoon, laging may makakain ang lahat, konting tiyaga lang ang kailangan.
OFFTOPIC:
I am currently crawling the senate website and extracting all the names of the senate bills filed including the authors.
The records are from the 13th to 16th congress.
2004 to 2015.
Will try to create an infographic on the data.
🙂
All right yippee
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That should be interesting. The classification would be important. I would want to know what areas they fall into (social welfare, health, defense, etc.); whether they are national, regional, provincial; whether they are productive or not (renaming streets, creating memorial days, etc.}
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Ayos yan Kabayan !
Wag nyong gawing bobo ang mnga pilipino. Hindi kami bulag sa nagawa ng dating pangulo na si apo marcos. Cya lang ang natatanging pangulo ang my maraming nagawa para sa bayan. Ang mnga aquino ang utak ng cpp npa. Na syang naninira sa mnga marcos. ang nag sulat ng blog na ito magkano nnmn ba ang halaga?
Ah, Topet, you come to a discussion blog and drop off insults and simple statements totally lacking any documentation. You are one of those advocates for stupidity trying to make other people stupid by roping them in with blustering and intimidating language. Go back to your rock. Not much makes me angry these days, but simpletons pretending moral and knowledge superiority do.
We’re here working to do right by the nation, and you are busy throwing dung on us and the Philippines. I get paid nothing. I write my ass off trying to get simple points across to dunces like you, that you are leading the nation into the pits of Hell.
Stupid.
Nagbubulag-bulagan is the right word – something like ignorant. Denying reality.
Now I recall what Will wrote about us having a “collective personality disorder.” Your side note Sir Joe is so spot on. And one can’t help but be melancholy on the current state of events. Is this really our curse as a people? Can’t we really trust that one of our own could turn the course of our nation to a rising tiger status?
I think it’s high time Filipinos started walking with their heads up, proud of all the GOOD WORK being done by a lot of people, in the face of scoundrels throwing rocks.
stpaul, that’s because they still can’t feel the benefits of the new tiger status which for now, benefits only the rich businessmen. What they feel are the handouts given by the corrupt sourced from their plundered loot.
They are so impatient and could not comprehend that it will take time for the government to raise the standard of living of the majority of the Filipinos. They voice out their frustration of being in the poverty rut they are in, and Marcos, Binay and Poe are echoing their moans of frustration. They don’t realize that these dirty politicians are part of the reason why they are still there, and they are also to blame for putting them in positions that give power to lord over them for the longest time.
We need to tell them that when businessmen reap the benefits of the new tiger status, they are able to provide more employment and increase tax revenues of the government so the CCT program can be expanded to reach poorest of the poor, to create more infrastructures that will benefit the working class and the rich alike, and to provide more social programs as well as upgrade our defense capability.
Thank you Sir Joe and Ms. Mary for the reply.
What is so frustrating is when you hear your friends and relatives supporting Binay and Marcos despite all the evidences of their plunder. Just because they didn’t vote for Pnoy, they would rather believe all the negative criticisms againts him and his team and would turn a blind eye on the achievements of this administration. As one fb post stated, “Anong mamamayan meron ang Pilipinas?”
Sorry for the negativity. But, we will overcome. With people like you and all the commenters (except the trolls) here in the Society of Honor, there’s no obstacle nor mountain which we can’t overcome and climb.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/166082800114832/permalink/980248475364923/
Just to give an example of the typical kind of reaction you get:
Ikaw ay magbalanse.sa palagay mo kaya itotorture ang isang tao kung walang ginagawang masama lalot ang bansa ang nakataya??Sana komunista na tayo.At saka dapat move on na tayo walang mangyayari kung laging ang nakaraan ang iisipin.Ngayun nga lang wala ng wisyo ang gobyerno.Puro nakawan.At tayo ang apektado.
I was called a triumphalist lately, I called them defeatist
Triumphalist. The Humpty Dumpty New Wold Dictionary just added a word.
@ stpaul — I too come into contact with many that cannot see what I call Drunken words from sober thoughts. Guys like Binay and Bongbong that spill falsehoods and half-truths – mindless supporters think those are truth. We know them for what they are, and behind those words lie evil and sober thoughts with agendas for personal benefits. You cannot discuss with these people. Simply refer them to this open site and check out with an open mind. Most people get heated when they discuss in person (nobody wants to look like a looser) but when they read privately, well sometimes the brain cells can function better. If that works even a little, this blog would have served its purpose.
@Chempo – Thank you :)!
pauli sa inyoha oi kng taga diin mn ka….kapoya nmo oi….
Please translate that, eric
I suspect he is trolling, as he has not really contributed anything enriching. He gets one more shot at it or goes to the spam bucket along with all the other irritants running about abusing their privilege of the freedom to express.
In the public plaza, it is a right. On a private blog, it is a privilege.
I think he is testing Joe’s grasp of the Visayan language because of the “gahi ulo” reference in the article.
He says: Go home, wherever you came from. Hey, you’re a bore.
Above he is just spouting put downs and curses like: You are biased, boring, hope you die, kill yourself and other non-sense.
Where is mercedes when we need her?
🙂 I only know 208 Visayan words, and gahi ulo are two of them. Thanks. I suspected as much.
Mary, I believe the translation of part of the note is roughly:
Wherever you came from, go back to that place.
eric is a trollish boor, then..a minority I hope.
Ulol, akala mo lahat ng tao nabibili. Duda rin ako sa kanong ito noong una, pero nakita ko na talagang paninindigan niya na sa bandang huli, gaganda ang buhay nating lahat.
Pasiklab at porma lang si Makoy, magnanakaw at berdugo pa. Iyong mga ginawa niya hindi matatag at may pundasyon. Maraming taong nabiktima. Lumaki ang mga slum area gawa ng gyera sa probinsya. Siya ang unang nagpa-abroad sa OFW tapos kinaltasan pa niya.
Gawa ng mga pinagawa ni Marcos nagkautang-utang ang Pilipinas. Bayang inutang, di na mababayaran. Tapos kumita pa siya sa lahat ng proyekto. Madali ang magpasimento.
Tulad ng ginawa nila sa mga trabahador ng Film Center na na-aksidente – sinimento na lang dahil inapura at huli ang pagpapagawa, si Imelda hindi makahintay magpasosyal.
Ang hirap sa inyong mga loyalist, nagbubulag-bulagan kayo. Sige sirain ninyo ulit ang Pilipinas. Sa bandang huli, kayo rin ang kawawa. Walang sisihan. Iyon ang ginusto ninyo.
@irineo, ayos!
Salamat… ewan ko ba kung anong iniinom ng mga loyalist… gin bulag yata.
tanong sa akin ng isang loyalist sa Facebook kung may problema ako.. sagot ko oo.. may problem ako sa mga Marcos. Nadanas ko ang pamumuhay noong panahon nila. Nakita ko ang kabulukan ng kanilang sistema, ang pambobola nila sa taongbayan. Saksi ako sa maraming nangyari noong panahon na iyon. Kung gusto ninyong magbulag-bulagan, bahala kayo. Walang sisihan sa bandang huli dahil iyon at iyon din ang ginusto ninyo. Kayo rin ang magiging kawawa dahil sa katangahan ninyo.
Lets play cards.
The Popularity Card,
some people can become politicians even if they barely have any idea what it means to be a politician
The Family Card,
fairly common and often infuriating ploy used by many politicians
The Freebie Card,
give freebies to people
The Blame Card.
by blaming others, many politicians are able to keep their own reputations clean
The God Card,
use the name of God to justify much of what they do
The Sympathy Card,
to win sympathy from others
Heto nagtatagalog na tayo kaya didiretsohin ko na:
ang mga tumutulong sa magnanakaw tapos natutuwa sa konting abuloy, parang mga puta na nagbibigay ng perang kinita nila sa bugaw nila, tapos nasisiyahan sa mumurahing panty na binili sa Divisoria tapos nilagay sa plastic bag ng Victoria’s Secret.
kahit gaanong karaming pakain, handog ng kuwintas na peke atbp., puta at bugaw pa rin.
O ano Paul, nasaan ang mga baraha mo?
Kung baga sa pusoy, first set lang ito.
Baka mapusoy ka sa bandang huli.
Or the Superiority Card
where some pretend a great wisdom
which pairs with
the Judgment Card
by which lessers are condemned for not being superior, too,
which, combined with
the Moral Guardian Card,
cancels out any other card
and assures the win.
Or some play for the deceased gambling lord, whose son thinks he holds the 7 Aces.
But since they do not hold seven aces, they have Chinese Triads behind them. But they underestimate the power of a team – ready to fight and defend.
My warmest congratulations to JP for making this great effort to translate Joe’s moving article. You and cha are doing a great job in reaching out to our less fortunate countrymen. I trult hope your efforts will not be in vain.
My thanks too, Irineo for helping Joe deal with the loyalist trolls who are helping the Marcoses and the Binays in returning us to the abyss when we are already away from it and needing only continuity so we wont be the laughing stock of foreigners who think that it is the voters’ fault (who repeatedly elect dirty leaders) that we are still not worth the respect and recognition from the rest of the world.
Salamat Mary… I must thank my yaya and my labandera (well my labandera is loyal to Apo Lakay but she is 91 years old now and a GI = Genuine Ilokana so I respect that, plus utang na loob ko sa kanya for telling the Constabulary na “kami lang ditong mga katulong” while my aunt was hiding in the maids room with activist pamphlets, and she called U.P. Balara to extinguish the fire in my parent’s room after getting my baby brother out, this is loyalty) for teaching me the masa culture by example, and Manong Eddie my yaya’s husband from Nueva Ecija, ex-PNP who taught me paninindigan, who told me a lot of things… one thing was noong harapin siya ng siga sa Katipunan, ang sagot niya: “siga ka ba? O di mabuti, dalawa na tayo”. He taught me the strength and values that we still have in our culture…
We all do our share to get PH out of the rut and to derail that slow train to hell. I know my translations are not perfect but with a little more practice, they will get better.
Thank you, Mary, for all that you do for our country and our people.
A beaut, Juan Pilipinas, your use of ginagago. Spot on. Tinatarando is also a choice, but stronger, more street. Thanks!
No language expert or a wordsmith, I only remember snatches of Balarila and Panitikan in high school; like Espanol, tenemos conjugacion de palabras por los hombres sin honor.
THERE YOU GO . . . . . .
Ginagago – gagagohin; ginagago, ginago, nagago
Tinatarantado – tatarantadohin, tinatarantado, tinarantado, natarantado
Dinedenggoy – didenggoyin, dinedenggoy, dinenggoy, nadenggoy
Inaaswang – aaswangin, inaaswang, inaswang, naaswang
Linoloko – lolokohin, linoloko, linoko, naloko
Kumukupit – mangungupit, nangungupit, nangunpit, nakupitan
Kinakawat – kakawatan, kinakawat, kinawat, nakawat
Pareho ang mga kawatan at magnanakaw
Ninanakaw – nanakawin, ninanakaw, nanakaw, ninakawan
Dumudura – duduraan, dinuduraan, dinuraan, naduraan
Nambuburat- buburatin, binuburat, binurat, naburat
Nanghihimod – hihimurin, hinihimod, nahimod
Sumisipsip – maninipsip, naninipsip, nakasipsip
ALTOGETHER the person doing all of the above is called: gago; tarantado; denggoy; aswang, manloloko; KUPITERO, KAWATAN, MAGNANAKAW; nandudura; buratsero, palahimod ng puwit; sipsip buto or vacuum cleaner;
To have such a wealth of slanderous words and insults tell so much of the sufficient presence of bad people and the courage of the clean (also dirty trying to look clean) to put to shame the “lataks” of society. The people called by these names are the silts and sediments of a community that fights dredging homogenization (stirring a chocolate cup to spread to evenly spread all over the chocolate powder and sugar at the bottom). These people if they do not become dirt at the bottom, become scums at the side of bathtubs; the remaining ones float on the surface shining like dirty oil.
Ang gaganda ng diskusyon, di agad ako nakasali kasi na stuck ako sa traffic. ( Bought some groceries and ensure for my granny for delivery on all saints day)
Nai share ni chit minsan na mas maraming botante ang isinlang pagkatapos ng martial law at edsa 1 people power. Ito ang kailangan nating maabot, sa tulong ng kanilang mga magulang at lolo, lola…kailangang maipaunawa sa kanila na mali ang mga propaganda at kasinungalingan nina Marcos at Binay. Mahilig sila sa FB at tweeter. Kailangan pa natin ng marami pang memes at pictures na maglalarawan ng kanilang kalupitan at pagnanakaw sa kaban ng yaman. 26 million plus ang tweets ng aldub…maganda kung maabot natin ang mga nag tweets na ito.
Para ito sa mga Pilipino ng The Society of Honor: Alam nyo naman na hanga ako kay JoeAm, kung bakit nya inuumang ang leeg nya para sa ating mga Noypits. Naaalala ko tuloy si Lord Jim. Wala naman sigurong Patna si JoeAm, pero ang sigasig nyang ipagtanggol tayo, para sa kinabukasan nating lahat. Commitment ni Lord Jim ang nakikita ko sa kanya. I-google nyo na lang please kung di nyo pa nabasa. Nakakabilib talaga. Fifteen years to go daw sana kung itutuloy natin ang Daang Matuwid, 50 years siguro daw kung magbabago tayo ng isip at ihalal ang hindi Mar-Len. Ito lang ang akin, suklian natin si JoeAm ng sigasig. Hwag tayong hinaan ng loob, payt lang sabi nga ng mga Bikolano. Yang mga troll, marami yan, sagutin natin ng mahinahon (sana). Hindi para makumbinse natin sila ngunit para tamaan ang mga nagaalinlangan na taga-basa lang ng blog at di kumikibo. Marami pang mangyayari. Ayusin natin ang desk natin, magehersisyo sa umaga at magpa-morning sunshine para lumabas ang likhang isip at pasensya. Dapat para tayong mga ninja, magaling umilag, maraming armas, di pahuhuli ng buhay. Mar-Len tayo!
si Irineo nga pina papunta ko sa anger management o any help
Baka ako din macensored dito Kaya tahimik Lang muna
The best way is to use anger as energy… I will research to evaluate the candidates for President and rank them according to different criteria. But I think the result will still favor Mar Roxas. Because the best medicine against the disinformation in many places is to shine the light of truth on matters. Mar may not have a grade of 1 in my evaluation, I think it is 2, but the others are much lower. Grace Poe 3 maybe even lower not passing, BongBong Marcos 4 Binay 5… I will quote Giancarlo’s study on Senate Bills, and his memes on Daang Matuwid achievements. What I would be very happy about is if anyone can give me a picture of what happened during Yolanda – good parts, bad parts for a balanced view. How do achievements balance against mistakes for a sum total.
There are also sources – UN – that praise how the management of Lando has improved. Lessons learned are also an important part of my criteria, Bongbong fails in this aspect.
Every contribution is highly appreciated. I will of course credit every contributor. Mary I know you have posted a lot on the corruption side of the Marcoses and Bongbongs involvement, please send me what you have. Take your time, I am taking mine also.
The Marcos abuses I have enough material already. Stuff on Grace Poe I would very much appreciate, who can put the information together for me? For Miriam Santiago I would also welcome some stuff. Binay as well. Any volunteers, one per candidate?
I will take care of Mar Roxas information. Will take my time, maybe 2-3 weeks to write. What I must admit is that the level of misinformation out there has truly shocked me.
On grace and Yolanda you check here in the society archives you have been checking groups in Facebook you can find it there too.
I just searched Yolanda here and many articles, if I email each to you then just do it your self here,same difference…..search Yolanda,Grace Poe and miriam
Well… then it will take longer to make the article. Anyway I left one FB group because it is like really loud marketplace where you get shouted down – not worth it. I do appreciate assistance because in the end those affected are you guys back home – not really me.
Besides I will not use the Society as the only source. But anyway thanks. I appreciate whoever is willing to put stuff together like gian has done and will credit their contribution.
Guys what is your take on this: http://thestandard.com.ph/news/headlines/190296/campaign-dole.html – is it OK or not? Why is this kind of thing necessary?
I think Reyes is a nut case, in the main, an extremist. The CCT program has been expanded dramatically by the Aquino Administration, and is cited by International observers for its success. The Aquino Administration (LP) would be foolish, during a campaign season, to neglect to take credit where credit is due, for political purposes. Every deed of a politician is political. That’s the competitive energy that drives for improvement. Reyes should do some positive, reasonable things that his advocacy could take credit for.
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I think it’s a government event with partisan political campaign overtones. I think an invitation to Mar to speak is within bounds. I think an invitation to the LP tandem is a stretch.
Having said that, I question Renato Reyes Jr. right to make the criticism when he has been silent on Binay’s premature campaigning.
http://www.coorms.com/2015/07/how-renato-reyes-jr-responded-to-netizen-question.html
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Finally, it ain’t really my business, all of this. I sincerely hope that Mar and Leni make it.
I am taking a break from these matters for a while to gain some fresh perspective – cu.
I’ll try to isolate the laws made by the presidential candidates.
Because Mar, Poe and MDS are the senators we can conveniently ignore Digong and Binay although if we posit that Senator Binay can be a proxy for VP Binay I’ll include her in the tabulation.
If you’d like to present your assessment as a blog, I’d be happy to publish it.
I miss calling Ireneo PiE so.
PIE since the it’s the leftist spin let us read the admin spin:
http://www.dswd.gov.ph/2015/10/statement-of-dswd-secretary-corazon-juliano-soliman-on-the-accusations-of-vp-binays-spokesperson-that-the-secretary-was-campaigning-instead-of-leading-from-the-frontlines-for-the-relief-and-recove/
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Can’t open it. Anyway doesn’t matter – I have noticed how misleading the stuff is that is circulating. Will definitely take a break to gain some distance and a better perspective.
Thanks anyway gian for the material you are putting together. My evaluation is intended as a way of clearing the fog of conflicting information. But the China article will be first. Karl already gave me a lot of material on that which I must sift through and incorporate.
Yes, please, that China article. So I can peer it. I miss that gaggle of China advocates, who don’t seem to care much about anything but pushing their mission forward.
What I have sensed on FB groups from some people is close to a stampede mentality.
Of course many things are still messed up, but I am asking myself why are they like that? There is something very wrong, I can’t really put my finger on it – just my impression…
This is something I think you will have to figure out. Those on the ground, at home, will know the day-to-day much better. Alright, so long for now, just 2-3 weeks break…
Will, thanks for answering to my above posting I also place in FB Leni Robredo group. The gist being: the middle class is resurrected and CONSTITUTES the center.
This was the whole point of my article about reconstituting the Philippines. Not literally changing the Constitution, but giving new life to the body politic. Citizens like you Will make me regain hope – that real democracy meaning civic sense is resurrecting there. Because the extreme-left and extreme-right stuff you mentioned is exactly what I have been through – akala ko wala na talagang pag-asa. At na tama ang pakiramdam ko na banggitin si Leni Robredo bilang representatibo ng bagong paga-asang demokratiko.
https://joeam.com/2015/10/23/reconstitute-the-philippines/ – In this context, I hope the Society gives my article a second, more favorable read. The silence was disappointing from most mainstays of the Society. But I guess it could have been misread a little.
For me, Irineo, I can’t keep up with your pace of dialogue. You think 10 times as fast and write 7 times as fast as I can, so I’m still exhaustedly trying to figure out one post and you’ve tacked on five more. I can’t catch up to you. Plus I have to write my own stuff and attend to other guests. Without question, you write some of the most brilliant and thought provoking pieces here. I wish I could just do a collection of them to tack on exclamation points. Yes! THIS!
But then I have to go shoot hoops with the kid . . .
*******
Ahaha! Same here. My mental metabolism operates with the strength and brilliance of an incandescent bulb flashlight. Which is to say the bulb is usually bright but does not last very long.
*****
Thanks Joe… I understand that. With Filipinos back home I am not so sure whether it is lack of time or vestiges of Spanish Catholic upbringing. I was impressed by Will’s answer to my posting in the Leni Facebook group – it was almost Lutheran in its directness. 🙂
Because the satire about Pedro and Joe in the article is exactly about that – Pedro just tells the Thomasite what he wants to hear, like he was used to do with Spanish friars. Who didn’t want to hear anything else – mass was in Latin, Bible too, I do the thinking for you.
Lutheranism – I know you wrote an article about this, and I am Catholic but was partly raised Lutheran by my mother – was a step forward. Read the bible. Ask questions. Discuss with the priest, don’t just believe received wisdom. Now why are Protestant countries all more democratic and progressive than Catholic ones? To quote some Filipino school teacher, because they use their coconut more. And are not scared of speaking truth to power (another LCPL_X thing I remember) or authority – something Luther started.
Joe, many of my own blog articles are basically summaries of several posts here.
In fact the latest article started by me cutting and pasting a whole series of posts, representing a train of thought, and welding them together, reforming them into a whole.
And that inspite of the fact that I did not have any TESDA training – BTW I have a post in my FB page, TESDA pupils are now touring Germany. The TESDA system is very similar to the German vocational training which is one of the pillars of industrial success here.
TESDA can be an anchor for Philippine progress, for sure, and if the manufacturing sector can get built up, TESDA grads will have a lot of upside, I think.
Yep, Irineo, the speedster road runner — we can’t catch up. We need Irineo II to do that. 🙂
https://joeam.com/2015/10/23/reconstitute-the-philippines/ – thanks Juana for suggesting that I digest it a little, but what I am going to give you now is NOT powetry, it is a:
DIGEST OF ARTICLE with some addtional insights added…
A. Present state
A.1. The Philippines is a Spanish colonial product.
A.1.a. The principalia were the coopted ex-datus.
A.1.b. The friars also ran the villages with them
A.2. The Americans came and tried to teach us. (Pedro and Joe)
A.2.a. The Thomasites did what they could. (Joe)
A.2.b. Filipinos acted the way they did with friars (Pedro)
meaning they told the Americans what they wanted to hear. Spanish Catholicism in the Philippines was medieval, one only needs to read the Noli to know that. Meaning no real thinking was expected, only yes Padre, this became yes Sir – and rote learning.
A.3. The Americans established a democracy
A.3.a. The institutions were American on paper
A.3.b. The ex-principalia mentality prevailed in practice
the Philippine mixture of Catholic hypocrisy – clean and dirty kitchen – and cacique impunity. And medieval-style application of letter of laws, spirit not understood.
B. Possible solutions
B.1. Revolution from below (Wilhelm Tell) – state was founded based on an oath
B.2. Revolution from above (Atatürk) – state was founded by military and bureaucracy
B.3. Evolution from above (Quezon) – state was founded by a man and his group
B.4. Revolution from the middle (Mabini) – ideas for the state were expounded
B.5. Evolution from the middle (Leni) – beginnings of middle-class civic democracy
all these forms of change, however, entail certain values and tenets that are understood and lived by. Not just a “Constitution” that is recited like a Bible by many but understood in its spirit just as little by most. Refer to the Pedro and Joe story.
C. Reconstitute the Philippines
C.1. Freedom Constitution. I probably provoked the constitutional fundamentalists here so they stopped reading. I meant the five basic tenets of how a democracy COULD be lived in the Philippines as a SUGGESTION for discussion – not as a real constitution. But ideally a constitution embodies how a democracy is lived. Philippine democracy is about as democratic as most Catholic Filipinos are true Christians in their real behavior.
I took aspects of the Rütli Oath, the Six Arrows of Atatürk and Mabini’s Decalogue and mixed them into five articles as a possibility for discussion.
C.2. Continuity, Consistency, Commitment. How much commitment did we really feel when reciting Panatang Makabayan in school? Rote. Pasok sa isang tenga, labas sa kabila. Opo sir, thank you sir. Pag wala na ang Thomasite sugal tayo ha. Pagbalik SIR dis is our Constitution, we ADHERE to eat, it pala, tinago ko ba iyong suman? Rütli Oath is a commitment from below – a rebel oath. Atatürk’s Six Arrows are commitment forced from above. Mabini’s ideas are like a kuya giving payo. So the Freedom Constitution
C.2.a. uses the WE form of the Rütli Oath to strengthen personal commitment.
C.2.b. has honor, humility and kindness as its first commitment para maalala
C.2.c. aspects of Six Arrows and the Decalogue are included in the mix.
Please put comments to the article there not here..
I have subscribed to the article and would like to see some participation. Why?
Because the participation when Joe wrote about Quezons 1939 Code of Civics was also very low especially from the locals. Which means there is probably little INTERNALIZED idea of what a civic democracy means. On paper yes, by rote, yes. But ask a question about how democracy should be applied – tango or kamot-kamot or kain ng kain (Karl). Any wonder it doesn’t work?
Ok that was a bit of a provocation. But like MRP said, minsan batok sa ulo dapat.
Chempo will be publishing a two-part blog here in about a week (Nov 3&4) dealing with the misinformation of the Marcos family. It is rigorous.
I will be waiting for those Chempo pieces with “bated breath.” Promises to be yummy.
Thank you dito sa page na to… Naliwanagan ako..matagal na pala tayong niloloko ng mga aquino na yan… Buti na lang may gumagawa nito… Mabuhay ka bongbong!!!
kumain ka na ba, anak?
Mahirap lumaking tanga…
Salamat, Andrew! Kahit ligaw na bala’y kaya mong harapin at salagin. More power to you!
Salamat Juana sa pagsalin nito sa Tagalog. Mula sa puso kaya masakit. Di nila matanggap ang katotohan na ginagago na rin nila ang kanilang sarili. Mahirap gisingin ang mga nag tutulogtulugan, lalong mahirap gabayan ang mga nag bubulag bulagan.
Walang anuman, bauwow.
Salamat sa appreciation pero taos puso din ang aking pagbo-volunteer dahil alam ko na marami sa ating kababayan ang namanhid na at tinanggap na lang ang kalakaran ng maruming halalan dahil hindi nila iniisip na meron silang magagawa para mabago ito.
Oo, tama ka, na: “Mahirap gisingin ang mga nag tutulogtulugan, lalong mahirap gabayan ang mga nag bubulag bulagan.” Pero dahil sa internet at social media, mas marami na ang nakakabasa ng mga kapanipaniwala at sinaliksik na artikulo katulad ng mga sinulat ni Joe at iba pang manunulat na may masalakit sa ating bansa at kababayan ngayon. Ang ating mga kababayan ay unti unting gigising at matatauhan kung hindi natin isusuko ang ating hangad na itaas ang dangal at puri ng bayan at gabayan ang pag-mulat at pag-unlad ng mga mamamayan .
Bless us all. Nanghihina man minsan ang kalooban ko…lalo na sa mga sinasabi ng mga estudyante ko sa kolehiyo…pero kailangan kong magpatuloy para sa isang bansang aking minamahal. Sa inyong lahat, salamat.
Fight back by not being serious about it, and keep insulting them, while providing the truth. These punks are not doing it out of principle so discomfort and shame will repel them.
Show them how stupid they are.
Walang mang gagago kung walang magpapa gago.
KWENTONG COMELEC
Pinatawag ng COMELEC lahat ng kandidato sa pagka-pangulo. Isa-isang tinawag sa harapan para ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi sila dapat ituring na nuisance candidate.
Pagdating nila kay Romeo John Ygonia, na tumatakbo bilang “Archangel Lucifer”, sinabi ng COMELEC officer, ” Archangel Lucifer, next!”
Biglang tumayo si Bongbong Marcos at nagtaas ng kamay.
Sumigaw yung COMELEC officer, ” UPO! ALAM KO ANAK KA RIN NG DEMONYO PERO ISA-ISA LANG!”
he he he
ISA PANG PATAWA
Alam ba ninyo kung sino ang original na AlDub?
Si ALma Moreno at DABoy Rudy Fernandez.
he he he
Andrew, hwag nang ulitin ang joke on original AlDub please. Makakakuha ng boto yan. Hahaha!
JOKE TIME SUNDAY
Anong tawag sa batang Marcos loyalist na hindi alam ang history at pilit binabago ito?
Tanga.
E anong tawag naman sa batang Marcos loyalist na naniniwala na may gold bars ang mga Marcos at doon galing ang kanilang yaman?
Tanga na, gutom pa.
Ano ang pinag-kaiba ng batang Marcos loyalist at tsonggo na nakahawak ng keyboard?
Wala.
Alam ba ninyo na may partido Satanas?
Si Archangel Lucifer ang unang nag-file, at ang substitute candidate na kapartido ay si….. Bongbong Marcos!
Si Enrile kaya hindi namamatay dahil takot si Satanas maagawan ng puwesto..
Gian and other techie experts out there, can you create hundreds of memes for every phrase or sentence in this article here..tagalog version will hopefully resonate more than english ones…if we print this including all the discussions after the article, it will be quite long, not that many will have time to read it all plus we all know that the youth (and even the not so young) have short attention span.
(HISTORY WITH LOURD:MARTIAL LAW MYTHS BUSTED) BUSTED!!!!!!!!
Ano ang mga nangyari BAGO ang martial law?
FACT: 1969-1970, naging talamak ang pangingidnap at pagpatay ng NPA
FACT : January 1970, Binomba ang Joint US Military Advisory Group Headquarters sa Quezon City
FACT: January 30 1970, may 50,000 mangagawa at mga estudyanteng aktibista (na naimpluwesyahan na ng ideolohiyang komunismo) ang lumusob sa malakanyang ,at sinunog ang ilang bahagi ng medical bldg. Gamit nila ang isang Fire truck na kanilang pilit na kinuha upang madaling makapasok.
FACT: October 1970, may mga kaso ng karahasan ang naitala sa ilang campus sa maynila. May pagsabog din ng mga pillboxes na naganap sa ilang paaralan.
FACT: December 1970, pinasabog ang dalawang Catholic school at dalawang government buildings sa Calbayog City .
FACT: December 11 1970, napatunayan sa Supreme Court na ang mga karahasang nagaganap sa bansa ay kagagawan ng mga Komunista na nais agawin ang pamamahala sa bansa.
FACT: December 29 1970, sinalakay ni NPA Commander na si Victor Corpuz ang Armoury ng PMA.
FACT: June 1971, binomba ang Constitutional convention hall
FACT: August 21 1971, binomba ang Plaza Miranda, ayon kay dating senador Jovito Salonga, Jun Alcover (dating NPA officer) at victor corpus( dating NPA commander), si JOMA SISON ang may pakana.
FACT: 1971, May mga pinasabog na Oil firms sa maynila. Pinasabugan din ang main pipe ng NAWASA, Meralco substation sa Q.C, congress building, comelec building, Meralco main office premises sa ortigas at doctors pharmaceuticals inc building sa Caloocan.
FACT: February 1972, pinasabugan ang U.S embassy
FACT: March 1972, pinasabugan ang Greater Manila Terminal Food Market
FACT: March 15 1972 binomba ang Arca building
FACT: May 30 1972: binomba ang vietnamese embassy
FACT: April 23 1972 Binomba ang Filipinas Orient Airways board room sa Domestic Road, Pasay City
FACT: April 1972, pinasabugan ulit ang U.S embassy
FACT: June 23 1972, Binomba ang Court of Industrial Relations
FACT: June 24 1972, binomba ang Philippine Trust Company branch office sa Cubao, Quezon City
FACT: July 3 1972, binomba ang Philamlife building sa United Nations Avenue
FACT: July 18 1972 , bigong pagpapasabog sa kongreso
FACT: July 27 1972 binomba ang Tabacalera Cigar & Cigarette Factory Compound at Marquez de Comilas, Manila
FACT: July 1972 napigilan ng militar ang barko galing china “MV KARAGATAN” na magsusupply sana ng mga armas sa NPA na hiningi ni Joma Sison kay communist chairman mao tse tung.
FACT: August 15 1972 binomba ang PLDT exchange office sa East Avenue at ang Philippine Sugar Institute building sa North Avenue, Diliman, Quezon City
FACT: August 17 1972, binomba ang Department of Social Welfare building
FACT: August 19 1972, binomba ang water main sa Aurora Boulevard at Madison Avenue, Quezon City
FACT: August 30,1972, bigong pagpapasabog sa Department of foreign Affairs
FACT: August 30 1972, binomba ulit ang Philamlife building
FACT: September 5 1972, binomba ang Joe’s Department Store sa Carriedo
FACT: September 8 1972, binomba ang Manila city hall
FACT: September 12 1972, binomba ang watermains sa San Juan at Rizal
FACT: September 14 1972, Binomba ang San Miguel building sa Makati
FACT: September 18, 1972, Binomba ang Quezon City Hall
FACT: DUMAAN ITO SA KONGRESO AT MAY BASBAS NG SUPREME COURT.
SEPTEMBER 21 ANG MARTIAL LAW.
*Kung ganyan ang nangyayari hindi ba dapat pairalin talaga ang batas militar? At bakit si marcos sinisisi niyo,eh may mga nanggugulo nga? Walang kinalaman ang mga makakaliwa sa mga pagpatay eh sila nga ang pumapatay at nangugulo? Walang nagsasabing golden age ang martial law.
*Dineklara ito para tumagal ang termino? Nanalo siya ng tatlo beses sa eleksyon. (1965-1969) (1969-1972) (1981-1986) 1972-1981 ang martial law , anim na buwan matapos ALISIN ang martial law, Nagkaron ng eleksyon at siya pa rin ang pinili ng tao (18,309,360) o 88% ng tao siya pa din ang binoto, kung talagang kasuklamsuklam ang martial law, hindi na siya dapat ibinoto ng tao .Dineklara ito upang labanan ang mga nangugulo at di maging komunistang bansa ang Pilipinas. *Pakiexplain nga din ang 1970’s recession?1980’s international debt crisis? oil embargo? Stock market crash?cold war?communism in asia? At iba pang pangyayari sa mundo kasabay ang Marcos era na nakaapekto ng labis sa pulitika at ekonomiya ng bansa. Bakit puro martial law?
*Hindi nga ba naging threat ang pagpasok ng komunismo sa bansa? *Unting world history sa communism:
FACT: Kumalat din ang komunismo sa ibat ibang panig ng asia : Cambodia, Cuba, laos, Korea, China, at Vietnam
FACT: 75 MILLION na tao ang namatay dahil sa paglaganap ng Komunismo sa Asia ( 65 MILLION Sa China, 3.5 MILLION sa N.Korea, 2.4 MILLION sa Cambodia at1.8 MILLION sa Vietnam)
FACT: Ang sumuporta lang naman kay joma sison sa pagpapalaganap ng komunismo sa Pilipinas ay si MAO ZEDONG, ang pinakamaraming pinapatay sa kasaysayan (49-78 million deaths) – higit pa sa bilang ng pinapatay ni STALIN(23 million deaths) At HITLER (17 million deaths). *Tungkol naman sa ekonomiya
-Bakit di ata nabigyan ng diin na ang GNP ng bansa ay tumaas mula 39.5 Billion noong 1965 , ito ay naging 86.7 Billion noong 1979, 6.6% growth rate yun kada taon from 1965-1979. (1972- 1973-= 9.3% ) (1973-1979= 6% ) (1978-1979=6.1%) (1979-1980=5.4%) (1980-1981=4.9%). At tama, bumagal ang ekonomiya mula 1979-1983, (1982=3.62%)(1983=1.87%)dahil humina ang export demands, hindi naging maganda ang trade deficits, nagkaron ng worldwide oil crisis at international debt crisis, bumagsak din ang presyo sa pandaigdigang pamilihan ng mga pangunahin export crops ng bansa( copra at sugar), nakaapekto din ang mga financial scandals at pagsasara ng Banco Filipino. Taong 1983, kasabay ng pandaigdigang krisis at mga kalamidad na tumama sa bansa, nagkaroon ng matinding political crisis dahil sa pagkakapatay kay ninoy, doon na nagsimula ang tuluyang pagbulusok ng ekonomiya ng bansa 1984(GNP=- 7.1%) 1985( 1985= – 4.1%). Makikita ang epekto ng mga kaguluhan sa bansa sa GDP sa taong ito, katulad na lang nung nangyari nung 1970 sa tinawag na “first quarter storm” kung saan pumutok ang malawakang pagpoprotesta at kaguluhan na idinulot ng mga estudyanteng aktibista at mangagawa; naging aktibo din ang mga kabataang makabayan sa pangunguna ni Joma Sison at ni NPA commander Bernabe Buscayno (1970=3.76%). Samakatuwid, ang sinasabi sa programang ito na ang pagunlad ay sa unang termino lang ni FM ay mali, mas mainam sabihin na bumagsak ang bansa dahil sa mga kaguluhang pulitikal at pandaigdigang krisis nung papatapos na ang kanyang panunungkulan.
-Pilit niyong pinagbabasehan ang palitan ng dolyar sa peso sa pagsukat ng ekonomiya ng bansa? 1966 (1USD=3.90php) to 1986 (1USD=20.95php). 1961(1USD=2-3.7PHP) 1970(1USD=4-6PHP) 1983(1USD=8-20PHP) (1989: 1USD=21-27PHP) (1997: 26-41PHP) (2000: 1USD=40-50) ngayong 2015 (1USD=46PHP), Punta tayo sa ibang bansa, sa JAPAN, isa sa pinaka maunlad na bansa ( 1USD= 119.67 Yen) at sa PAPUA NEW GUINEA, isa pinakamahirap na bansa sa mundo (1USD= 2.88 KINA). Oo may kinalaman ang palitan ng pera sa ekonomiya ng bansa pero hindi ito ang pinakasukatan upang masabi kung maunlad o mahirap ang isang bansa.
-Ang pagutang ni marcos ang nagpabagsak ng bansa? bakit ang ibang bansang mauunlad mas baon sa utang? Ang utang daw ng bansa ay lumobo sa panahon ni marcos (1962- $360million)–(1986-$28.3Billion). Noong umalis si Pres. Diosdado Macapagal, ang presidente bago si FM, walang laman ang kaban ng bayan, ang daily government spending ay sobra ng 1/3 sa nakokolektang buwis, nagsasara ang mga negosyo sa bansa, bagsak ang agrikultura ng bansa, samakatuwid, nasa krisis ang bansa noong simula niyang pamunuan ang bansa noong December 30 1965. Napakaraming proyekto ang pinagawa ni marcos sa bansa (kalsada,tulay,ospital,ports,airport, planta,dams,eskwelahan atbp.) saan kaya siya kukuha ng mga pinagpagawa nun? At kung hindi siya umutang ano kayang meron ang bansang ito ngayon? Subukan nating burahin sa kasaysayan si Makoy at alisin din natin ang kanyang mga proyekto (lrt, slex,nlex,ports,airport,specialized hospitals,dams,planta,eskuwelahan atbp). Sino kayang presidente sa mga sumunod sa kanya ang magkakaron ng vision tulad niya na gagawa ng ganyan kalawak na mga proyekto? Ngayong 2015, ang utang ng bansa ay ($ 75.3 Billion). Sa 20 YEARS ni marcos kung saan halos binuo niya ang bansa sa napakalawak na imprastraktura, ang inutang ng bansa ay ($ 27.94 billion) = (20 powerplants, 9 bridges: 11,472meters long, 47 colleges and universities ) di pa kasama ang pan philippine highway/maharlika (3,517 km) na nagkokonekta sa Luzon, Visayas at Mindanao sa pamamagitan ng land at sea transport ; mga freeder roads, national railways , IR-8 hybrid rice project , water supply and sewerage, flood control and drainage , irrigation, airports, portworks and maritime navigation, telecommunications, preliminary studies, tourist spots, pagpapalakas ng militar at ilang projects ni imela tulad ng bliss project. Sa pamumuno ng limang pangulo sa loob ng 29 YEARS, ang nadagdag sa utang ng bansa ay ($ 47 Billion) = ( zero powerplants, 11 bridges: 7441meters long, zero colleges and universities). Ang utang ngayon ng pilipinas ay di hamak na maliit kumpara sa utang ng mga mauunlad na bansa gaya ng (US- $ 18.1 Trillion) (Japan- $ 10.1 Trillion) (China- $ 5.3 Trillion). Dapat nga bang isisi sa utang ni marcos ang pagbagsak ng bansa?
******OPINION******: Tama nga si heneral luna, ang kalaban natin ay ang ating mga sarili. Tulad sa pelikula, isang kasiraan lang ang naging armas upang ang isang magiting na Pilipino ay magwakas. Sa isang presidente na walang ibang ginawa kundi mapaganda ang bayan, mapaunlad ang kalagayan ng mga mamamayan, maprotektahan ang bansa sa isang masamang ideolohiya na uubos sana ng milyong Pilipino, sa sangkatutak na ginawa niya para sa bayan, sangkatutak din na paninira ang kanyang ikinabagsak. Nagtagumpay man siya na hindi tuluyang maging komunistang bansa ang Pilipinas, nagtagumpay naman ang mga komunista na sirain ang poltika at ekonomiya ng bansa, kaya eto tayo ngayon, binubully ng komunisyang Tsina.
Pro o anti marcos ka man, pro o anti Aquino, o di kaya naman ay walang pakialam, magkaisa na tayo. Hindi tayo ang tunay na magkakalaban dito. Hihintayin pa ba nating ang gawing claim ng Tsina ay ang buong bansa ay kanila? Mahina ang bansa natin yan ang katotohanan. Kailangan natin ng matitinong lider at magkakaron tayo ng pagkakataon sa 2016. Malayo sa posibilidad na mahigitan kagad natin ang ibang bansa, pero paunti unti, kung ang mga lider na mailuluklok ay matino, tiyak babangon din tayo. At kung ako ay tatanungin, OO, iboboto ko nga si Bong Bong, hind lang dahil nakita ko na magaling talaga ang kanyang ama, hind lang dahil nakita ko ang pagmamalasakit ng pamilya niya sa bansa, kundi dahil na rin sa nakita ko sa kanya. Nakita ko kung paano niya ginawang 1st class province ang ilocos norte , kung paano niya binigyan ng solusyon ang problema ng probinsya sa enerhiya (windmill at solar farms) , kung paano niya ginawang isang atraksyon ang isang problema. Nakita ko din kung paano niya hinusgahan si Corona, kasama ng kagalang galang na mga senador na sina joker at Santiago,mga pawang dalubhasa sa batas, hindi siya nagpadala sa kung ano ang sasabihin ng publiko sa kanila, nagdesisyon sila base sa mga ebidensyang ipinrisinta. At kung totoo man na hindi nila tinanggap ang suhol umano ni Pangulong Aquino, lalo pa sila talagang kahanga hanga. Nakita ko din sa senado kung paano niya pinakita na hindi lang siya puro salita, noong pumutok ang issue sa BBL, hindi lang siya kumontra at nagpuro salita, siya ay gumawa ng substitute bill upang maitama ang mga bahagi ng orihinal na BBL na hindi naaayon sa saligang batas. Sa issue naman ng Balikbayan box, akin din nakita kung paano niya ipinagtanggol ang mga OFW, sa talas ng kanyang isip at mga tanong, hindi na nakapalag pa ang BOC. At sa kanyang layunin wakasan ang maduming pulitika at pagkaisahin ang lahat ng Pilipino, tunay siyang kahanga hanga at alam niya na ito talaga ang dahilan kung bakit hindi naunlad ang bansa.
*Tama na ang paninira, may mga bagay tayong hindi na natin lubusang maiintindihan sa panahong nakalipas na, paano nga kaya kung hindi pumasok ang komunismo? Paano nga kaya kung hindi nagmartial law? Paano kung hindi pinatay si ninoy? Paano kaya kung nasunod ang kagustuhan noon ni marcos na si ninoy ang maging kapalit niya? Ito ay mga tanong na kailanman ay hindi na masasagot pa ng kasaysayan. Mayroon pa tayong dapat paghandaan sa kasalukuyan, mga problemang kinakaharap ng bansa.
*kung hindi mo iboboto si bong bong marcos dahil siya ay isang marcos, ay wag naman sana, wag kang mabuhay sa mga paninira. Mas karapat dapat siguro na hindi mo siya iboboto dahil may nakita ka pang mas karapat dapat sa kanya,yun lang sana. Kung may ibang kandidato kayong sinusuportahan, hindi ko naman kayo pipigilan, ang hiling ko lang sana sa inyo ikumpanya niyo sila gamit ang kanilang mga nagawa at mga plataporma, huwag naman niyong daanin sa paninira, dahil ang paninira na yan, yan ang sumira at patuloy na sumisira sa bansa.
*sa mga anti marcos, pro aquinos at makamarcos, maging bukas sana ang inyong isipan, magpalitan ng mga pananaw at kaalaman na hindi gumagamit ng mga salitang “bobo o mang mang” at iba pang mapanglait na salita. At uumpisahan ko na din ito sa aking sarili dahil aminado ako, nagiinit din minsan ang ulo ko kapag inuudyok ako . Ibahagi niyo ang inyong nalalaman sa maayos at kagalang galang na pamamaraan, mas mainam na sigurong ibaling niyo ang inyong galit sa nangaapi sa bayan o sa tatawaging kong “anti-pinoys”. At sa mga walang pakialam, makialam na kayo, dahil lahat tayo ay Pilipino.
Tanga. Mag cut and paste ka lang, mali pa. Gumamit ka ng proper spacing para mabasa ng maayos.
Ginawang excuse ang mga komunista para ma-justify ang plunder at oppression. Hindi yun paninira. Fact yon. At lahat ng nakaranas ng eleksiyon noon, lahat ng napanalo ni Marcos na eleksiyon dinaya niya. Fact yon.
Sabihin mo sa akin san galing ang “facts” mo. Anong iskwela ka nag-aral? Sino magulang mo? Taga-saan ka? Nakadampot ka lang ng post sa Facebook o social media naniwala ka na?
Tanga!
aha ha ha alam ko na saan mo napulot ito, ang tanga mo talaga!
Bakit di ka makining kay lourd de veyra? dahil tanga ka?
Stupid because some else has his view on Marcos ?
No stupid because it is not grounded on reality.
I’d like to try what you’re smoking.
Where is your defense on him ? “not grounded on reality”
Paul magtagalog ka na please kaya di ka masagot kasi Di namin maintindihan sina sabi MO.
What is your counter arguments againsts his claims? Why is it not grounded on reality?
Unfortunately, you violate all the etiquette of a proper blogger should do.
I can’t f#cking read what you are saying. The first rule of blogging is write to be understood. You write to give properly educated people migraines. Please go to your schools and demand a refund.
“I can’t f#cking read what you are saying”, please don’t talk like this to me as I’m not the one that wrote it.
I just want to see your grounded defense against him.
Some excuses would be right way to address your misunderstanding as I’m not the person.
Paul, here is what I would suggest. Rather than attack what others have written, make your case positively. State your view, support it with argument or facts, and give others a chance to respond in kind. This is a discussion forum, and not a chat room. Discussions take the form of teaching and learning and not sparring to win cock fights. giancarloangulo has participated in the blog for a long time and understands the ground rules. It’s up to you to show that you, too, can help others learn. Or can learn yourself.
We all are awaiting your constructive breakdown of his said facts.
No, the responsibility is yours to state your case, says I, the referee of this particular blog. See my prior comment.
Well besides putting Fact besides his supposed facts where are his sources?
A lot of the regulars here are Facebook friends so they know I’ve been screen capturing the President’s SONA today and am not even halfway done.
So publish credible sources for each claim and the society can answer each claim.
No sources means you are pulling evidence out of thin air.
Joe, let it be clear, IM NOT THE ONE THAT WROTE IT.
I have no statement to do on Jc comments (i also didn’t comment it, nor approved it or broke it down), i have just be reading what this person wrote and saw some persons jumping on it whiteout any constructive reply on it.
Call me an observer in this case.
Okay, observe away, but don’t demand that others supply facts. Your comments are confusing me, for sure. But observe, that’s fine.
Okay, Paul, your additional comment is not approved. It continues to interject copnfusion into a discussion between other parties without adding anything substantive to the debate. It is more an attack on the people who are themselves engaged. Again, if you have a positive statement to make, make it and I will approve it. But let Jc, andrewlim8 and giancarloangulo engage without your interference.
Anyone making a claim has a burden to provide proof of his assertions. This is the root of xkcd’s citation required comic. Everything Lourd De Vedra said was backed by his team’s research as shown at the end credits and citations he provided. Some are basic logic. The refutation of JC presents no similar sources hence it is his burden to prove his claims.
Unfortunately you violate the proper etiquette of a commenter.
Paul is out of the conversation until he provides a positive contribution to the discussion. Your point is made, as well, so let the substantive debate continue, sticking to the content of Jc’s itemized list and commentary.
This is the first comment : I believe what you were trying to say was : ‘Stupid because someone else has a different view on Marcos.
Paki explain nga yun mga bank accounts at ari-arian nila?
Jc, yung mga facts mo na pambobomba ng mga rebelde ay maaring sapat na dahilan para ideklara ang martial. Ipagpalagay na nating lehitimong rebelde ang mga may pakana ng mga iyon. Isama mo na ang pananambang daw kay Juan Ponce Enrile na kaapelyido ko pa naman pero hindi ako proud. Tatanggapin ko na rin na marami din siyang napagawa.
Bakit sila nag alburoto ng ganoon? Hindi magiging agresibo ang mga rebelde sa pambobomba sa buong kapuluan lalo na sa kalakhang Maynila kung nakikita nilang maayos ang patakbo sa gobyerno. May mga sinusulong din silang prinsipyo na bagama’t taliwas sa demokrasya ay para sa kapakinabangan din ng mga mamamayan ang mga iyan. Matalino at tuso si Marcos at kanyang mga heneral; kampi tayo diyan. Bakit napakarami ng mga binanggit mong pambobomba under his nose. Imahinasyon lang pre..
Iyung mga sinsasabi mong naipagawa; totoo rin mga yun. Sa hinaba haba ng kanyang panunungkulan at sa dinadami ng inutang..Iyun lang ang kaya niyang gawin? Ginamit niya lang mga proyekto para makakupit sa kaban ng bayan. Iyan naman ang istilo ng mga politko natin di ba? Mayroon namang iilan na hindi kumukupit, mayroon ding utay utay lang, at mayroon din naming ganid na halos ibinulsa lahat. Alam mo na kung sino sino mga iyon. Alam ko kung sino sasabihin mo.. Si Aquino at Roxas no? hahaha…Pakatotoo lang pre..
Ang mga eleksiyon na naganap pagkatapos kunwaring alisin ang martial law ay mga dinaya lamang. At saka wala naming puedeng tumakbo laban sa kanya dahil kontrolado niya lahat. Merong isa,Si Alejo Santos..Sino ba yun? Iyung kay yumaong Cory ang pinakagarapal. Nagpa imprenta ng maraming pera para ipamudmod at dinaya pa sa bilanga.
Uy siyanga pala, yung natirang tatlong crate na bagong imprentang pera, nakainuman ko yung marine sergeant na bantay bilang patunay. Nasa Japan na siya ngayon.
Tama ka, Enrico.
Ang alegasyon na modus operandi ni Binay sa Makati at ang paglago ng yaman ng kanyang pamilya ay parang kopya sa aklat ni Marcos. Ang one to sawa mindset, ang pakitang tao na pagpapatayo ng imprastraktura at mga serbisyo, ang patagong pangongotong sa mga programa at proyekto, ang pagtangi sa mga paratang ngunit walang tutod ang mga rebuttal, ang makasariling layunin na may maskara na para sa kabutihan ng sambayanan, at iba pa.
Below is a more credible timeline of Marcos regime. It is fair and factual:
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/aljazeeracorrespondent/2011/09/201192082718752761.htm
Tutuo na maraming kaguluhan bago inimplementa ni Marcos ang Martial Law pero and puno’t dulo ng mga ito ay ang mga ginawa at ginagawa ni Marcos na masama at walang pahintulot ng taumbayan. Pinangalandakan niya na ito ay tatak ng demokrasya kaya ang mga rebelde ay tinatakan na komunista. Komunista ba talaga sila o mga ordinaryong tao lamang na nakakakita na sila ay laman ng tren na bumubulusok sa impyerno?
Meron akong mga source na pribado – hanggang ngayon hindi ko puwedeng idetalye dahil nasa Maynila pa iyong isa – na armas na galing Crame nilalabas sa sports bag.
Etong source ko, binenta niya iyong mga armas sa rebelde. Kabisado niya ang mga iba’t-ibang isla ng Pilipinas, marami siyang alam na wika. Legit na ang negosyo niya ngayon pero malamang napapakinabangan pa rin niya ang mga koneksiyon niya dati.
Samakatwid, nakabuti sa rehimen na may mga rebelde – palusot nila para sa Marcelo.
This will be the national song if BBM ever becomes President, and the ginagago have kids…
May gagong silang,
may gago na buhay,
gagong bansa,
gagong galaw,
sa gagong lipunan,
naggagago ang lahat,
tungo sa pagmangmang,
at ating itanghal,
gagong lipunan
with “apologies” to the Bagong Lipunan song I heard so often in my youth.
Dapat malaman ito ng mga iba pa na hindi pa naka-realize!
Who? Duterte? Can you perhaps elaborate and be a little less mysterious. I am lousy at reading Filipino vagaries.
JoeAm,
The Marcoses should have never been allowed to return back in the first place. I grew up during the Marcos era and we must always remind the younger generation of the devastation they did to our country. After the Suhartos of Indonesia they are the biggest political thieves in the world. We must always remain vigilant that these type of greedy lowlifes must never be allowed to hold power again.
The Philippines was called the Sick Man of Asia during the Marcos era for a legitimate reason.
Never again, never again
If the elder Marcos is to be judged, one must not forget the visionary blue print of the Philippines he had to sell and accomplish to the three generations of Filipinos that was within his purview: the postwar, the coldwar and the post-coldwar. Human mortality was the condition he could not bargain for. He was in the throes of Lupus when Ninoy came home and could not follow through and address the ills that faced him deservedly or not. He left as part of his legacy a mirror with which everyone could see what Filipinos are made of. The current Marcoses should lead in the recovery of Ferdinand’s dream by returning the wealth of the Philippines and get out of everybody’s way who definitely can do a much better job!
Yes, allowing them to return and run for office set the standards of “zero ethics” and “100% entitlement to the class of impunity”.